fishmike wrote:TPercy wrote:Fish do you think it was a smart move to overpay for two NBA journeyman right before summer where we had a wide variety of players who could have shined and brought the same level of intensity. I said it many times that there was a possibility either thanasis, ndour, or labeyrie would play really well and show a lot of potential. Funny thing is that all three of those players are known hardworking players and give it there all for the sake of th r team and play sf or pf, much like amundson and thomas. fishmike, don't get me wrong, I think there is value for for players like those so that they can have a positive influence on our culture here, but it never really made sense getting the two of them back here at the same time.
I actually like the Lou/Lance signings. I think you need balance. The best teams always do.Look at the prospects on the roster next year:
Galloway, KP, Grant, Early, Ledo (partial), Thanasis (promise?)
Then you have Derrick Williams and Quinn who are 24 and 25 and signed for upside, but are still young, cheap players the Knicks are hoping to build on or build up.
So your looking at 8 guys, who are either pure prospects or unproven young pros with talent whom we are looking to develop. 8 guys is a lot of roster to dedicate to players that (loosely) can be considered prospects.
Vets:
Melo, Lopez, Afflalo, Calderon
And of those vets only two have played in this system, and Melo and Jose were both hurt for more than half the year.
So I 100% endorse those signings and believe they make sense. Those guys wont get many minutes I suspect but they know the system, they defend, the know where to be on the floor and they have shown at times they can play above their talent level, and most of all the coaching staff and FO trust them and want these type of guys around.
assuming we Thanasis and Ledo both make the roster we still have a spot for a guy who slips through the cracks.
You need balance. Thats a fact. You and some may disagree and if thats the case fine. Ive played on a lot of sports teams, and Ive played on teams where 2/3 of the roster are new guys who are learning a system etc and its too many. The lack of stability and knowledge of the system hurts everyone. These young guys and these coaches need a few lunch pale guys THAT KNOW THE SYSTEM. Its not about the role... these guys are most likely short term or will be end of the bench Luke Walton teacher pet types. You dont think those guys are important? Every good team and every established system has them.
guys screaming about some end of the bench guy being a better choice than crappy old Lance and Lou just dont get it. Its not nintendo. These are men with jobs to do. Lou and Lance already know their jobs. They also be effective players next to more talented guys. A guy like Lou is going to look great next to Melo and KP. Its when you ask him to give you 15ppg and 10rebs in 35 minutes a night when he's going to get exposed. Thats not fair or what he was signed for.
you make salient points but if we want to become a class organization and a perennially viable contender like san antonio, then you have to develop a deeper rotation like san antonio has. they have adapted beautifully to the 82-game grind, lengthening careers. nobody should be playing more than 32 minutes a game, just like their last season.
32 minutes max requires a deeper bench and deft managing skills so the pressure would be even more on fisher and his assistants.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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