dk7th wrote:H1AND1 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:Melo has a no trade, so he's gonna be here as long as he wants to be. We need to focus on the other 14 players on this team. Arguing about Melo and his contract is futile and a waste of bandwidth. Who are we gonna draft? Who are we gonna sign? Who might we trade for? What should the structure of the team look like? What type of players should we target? These are the things worth talking about.
taking the "fait accompli" approach isn't cutting it for me, nixluva. no more rah-rah speechifying please. answer the questions i posed, and if you don't wish to, lets just say that no answer tells me all i need to know anyway. here they are, cut and pasted just for you:
1)did the knickerbockers overpay for carmelo anthony's services?
2)what is carmelo ACTUALLY WORTH to the knicks if the goal is to win a title?
3)what would YOU have paid carmelo if you could have?
lets say he was not worth what we paid him.
Phil is a smart guy, why do you think that he did it?
Are you 100% positive that put in his situation, you don't cave and resign him as well?
you know my philosophy and my values. you know what my answer is.
so far as phil, is he smart or was he willingly compromised for a cool 60 mil?
so your values are different or better than his?
hard to judge until your presented with the dilemma.
I don't like the move at all but it would be silly of me to "know" what I would do if I was in his situation.
Its like saying "if I was a billionaire, I would give 90 percent of it to charity because as a guy making 50g, that is just my values."
This must have come up when Phil was interviewed for the position. So either he chose on his own to re-sign Melo or he freely chose to take the job knowing the team would be built around a player he didn't want to build around.
I wholly believe Phil would've never been given the job had he not sold Dolan on a vision of the team built around Carmelo and the triangle. Dolan would've never hired him. Phil envisioned building a team around Melo, "healing" him as mreinman said.
Think about it like this: Phil has never lost in his NBA career at each step he's taken. And as a coach he took some teams with some talented yet hardware lacking players and turned them into champions with the triangle. In his mind he probably thinks/thought he could do it again with Carmelo. Whether this is pure ****iness or hubris (as Splat called it) or whatever, Phil thinks/thought he could build a team around Carmelo but at the same time he isn't the kind of guy who would want Dolan sniffing around. So really the only logical conclusion is he sold Dolan on a plan that he was comfortable enough with to not want to sniff around, ie: Building a winner around Dolan's signature acquisition. Dolan mostly left Isiah alone too, remember.
you may well be right. but for a guy who called the roster "clumsy" before agreeing to take the gig, he seems to be doing his job pretty clumsily himself. and when you, as the president, state that the star player "did exactly what we sort of asked him to to do," that does not sound like complete ownership of the negotiations. something very fishy and sketchy about that statement.
Well, sure, he could be seriously reconsidering his judgement and/or regretting his decision to take the job or re-sign Anthony currently and still have thought what i wrote above last year when he took the job. We can't know for sure. Or, he could think that his moves after resigning Carmelo were bad but he'll give give it another shot at the draft and this summer. Who knows, any of these scenarios could be running through his head right now. We can only read the tea leaves. But it makes a lot of sense to me that he was given the job part and parcel with building around Melo. MSG doesn't let him go, he's their cash cow. Thats the fact that sadly complicates the best practices of team building.
