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gunsnewing
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1/5/2015  9:31 PM
Alex Kirk looks like Big Country Reeves.
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1/5/2015  9:31 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder
we gave away two players who had no value and gained cap room so it wasnt bad
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1/5/2015  9:32 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder

Lance Thomas might be the best thing[in terms of now] from this trade

Although he and Quincy Acy are redundant


Have to hope Kirk doesn't get waived and can be developed into something

Cole probably eats his lunch though
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1/5/2015  9:32 PM
Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeck · 15s15 seconds ago
Knicks also gained two cap exceptions, for $6 mil and $2.5 mil, which they could use in further deals before trade deadline.

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1/5/2015  9:32 PM
F500ONE wrote:
nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Dolan wins big on this trade. I think hes going to save like 20mm $ because of luxury taxes. At the end of the day we get rid of JR's salary next year and a 2nd rounder. I can accept that--cap space is important. The deal is good solid.


No this deal is awful, it means we're to grossly

Overpay someone next year and I mean way overpay


Look we needed a pick we could use right away, It's real simple we're rebuilding

There are no free agents that will put us over the top next year


Probably not even a top 8 team

A 2019 pick 2nd rounder is about as irrelevant as it gets


Why are we counting Dolan's pennies now

We used to threaten to match contracts up to a billion dollars


AND IT'S NOT YOUR OUR MONEY


What kind of warped ass logic are you using? PLEASE GTFOH!!! PLEASE! You have no credibility anymore at this point. You can't bitch about a team and then when we clean house and clear even more cap space trash the deal. Make up your damn mind!!!

Why so disrespectful with your language, keep this in mind coming this summer and the rest of this year

My main point is to get a pick much sooner I had my cutoff well before details were mentioned


We need a pick before 2017 END OF STORY

Preferably a 1st if not a couple 2nd rounders


I can't take your constant bitching and negative talk when clearly this team is not doomed to fail. Getting another pick is still something Phil can do if that's what he feels he needs. Not getting a 1st rd pick is not a valid reason to keep this negative tripe going after Phil clears even more cap space. The cap space also makes a trade more possible. We just don't know what Phil will or won't be able to do in FA this year but he's gonna have a lot of money to spend and that's a good thing.
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1/5/2015  9:33 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder
we gave away two players who had no value and gained cap room so it wasnt bad

We took back those 3 players? Are they all expiring contracts or did we take back salary next year?
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1/5/2015  9:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2015  9:35 PM
Best thing from this trade

We may have contributed to a Sixers win


By having this trade as a distraction to the Cavs

Kevin Love empty stat padded in another Cavs loss
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1/5/2015  9:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder
we gave away two players who had no value and gained cap room so it wasnt bad

We took back those 3 players? Are they all expiring contracts or did we take back salary next year?

they will be waived
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1/5/2015  9:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2015  9:36 PM
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Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeck · 15s15 seconds ago
Knicks also gained two cap exceptions, for $6 mil and $2.5 mil, which they could use in further deals before trade deadline.

Thats pretty good. Phil is redeeming himself a little after overpaying for Melo and Calderon
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1/5/2015  9:35 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
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KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Glad for Shump...he goes from 5-31 to LeBron. Not bad.

Not bad at all. I am really happy for him

whats with the shumpert boner still? dude is always injured and never improved. why are you "happy" for him? what did he do here that was so great?


Exactly, I don't understand it...
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1/5/2015  9:36 PM
Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeck · 58s58 seconds ago
And yes, you could make the case that the Knicks gave up the season long ago. Just passing along what I'm hearing.

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1/5/2015  9:37 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder
we gave away two players who had no value and gained cap room so it wasnt bad

We took back those 3 players? Are they all expiring contracts or did we take back salary next year?

I think they all are on unguaranteed deals and can be waived by Saturday. Kirk has barely played and has spent a lot of time in the dleague. Not sure about Thomas.
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1/5/2015  9:38 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeck · 15s15 seconds ago
Knicks also gained two cap exceptions, for $6 mil and $2.5 mil, which they could use in further deals before trade deadline.

Thats pretty good. Phil is redeeming himself after overpaying for Melo and Calderon

If he can flip Smith into eating some salary

For this year and a pick then he'll make today's trade


More palatable
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1/5/2015  9:39 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder
we gave away two players who had no value and gained cap room so it wasnt bad

We took back those 3 players? Are they all expiring contracts or did we take back salary next year?

It's a C trade. Years past trades usually graded out an F.

I do know one thing though. OKC metrics guys suck and the Cavs pulled off a great deal.
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1/5/2015  9:40 PM
Is this the trade?

J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert to Cleveland
Dion Waiters to Oklahoma City
Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, and a protected first-round pick, to the Knicks
Knicks waive Samuel Dalembert

That seems like a deal. I mean, five wins is five wins and they may as well sign Jimmy Fallon, Michael Stipe, and Spike Lee.

This trade is all about Alex Kirk. Sleeper.

And, Lou Amundson is chill:

And, hey, a pick.
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1/5/2015  9:40 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Alex Kirk, Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas & 2019 2nd rounder
we gave away two players who had no value and gained cap room so it wasnt bad

We took back those 3 players? Are they all expiring contracts or did we take back salary next year?

It's a C trade. Years past trades usually graded out an F.

I do know one thing though. OKC metrics guys suck and the Cavs pulled off a great deal.


It's a minor trade, but it's still great to get out of JR Smith's contract.
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1/5/2015  9:42 PM
bye bye JR, don't let the door hit you on the way out - now if we could only trade Melo.
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1/5/2015  9:44 PM
Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley · 23s23 seconds ago
Sources say #Knicks are planning to waive 2 of the 3 players they acquire in the trade. Lance Thomas is most likely candidate to be kept.

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1/5/2015  9:44 PM
The Cavs flipped "Dion fricken Waiters" into

Shumpert, J.R. Smith[who's almost an expiring for Cleveland], future 1st

Think about that for a second
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1/5/2015  9:44 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Great trade for the cavs.

Decent trad for the knicks

Awful trade for OkC.

Awful for OKC? You think?....They didnt lose anything. Waiters can be a big time shooter off the bench...maybe walk right in and hold down the two spot if Westbrook gets hurt again.

Waiters just needs to realize (quick) that he is not an Alpha dog and play within the role he is given...
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