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4/7/2014  7:55 AM
VDesai wrote:Atlanta is destroying Indiana. The great Knick farce of 2013-2014 is officially over.

If this year was a language it would be Farsi

If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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4/7/2014  8:16 AM
93BUICK wrote:
VDesai wrote:Atlanta is destroying Indiana. The great Knick farce of 2013-2014 is officially over.

If this year was a language it would be Farsi


Poor worn out Hibbert. Tyson must really be performing in bed lately.


Buick - Leave the witty quips to Dr A. He has true Shame thread credibility.
In your defense, I was also predicting a win. But then, I always predict we will win.

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4/7/2014  10:51 AM
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
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dwiley20 wrote:awwffulll....Melo you are not that hurt

How do you know this? Did you examine him?

well he has been awful... so either he is that hurt or he has flat out sucked.... which is it?

I don't know, do you?

What I think was that he was hurt but if thats the case, he should not be taking 17 shots.

I will not use fuzzy logic to conclude anything.

well try using some logic at all..

carmelo has been pretty bad of late... so either he is just flat out sucking... or maybe he is hurt to the point he should not be on the court... I don't think he is hurt that bad... I have other thoughts... but asking a poster if he examined carmelo is a bit ridiculous, especially if you don't feel these performances are typical of the kind of play he has been giving the knicks... the poster obviously feels something is wrong, and just sucking isn't one of them.. the possibility of him being "that hurt" is somewhat real...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

team wins, player x is on the team and their best player (supposedly - facts/stats not included or deprecated ones), therefore, player x is better than player y who is the best player on his team that has not won.

Fuzzy logic.

I am no carmelo fan but I like to be open minded about him too instead of being blinded by a vendetta.

Post some numbers sometimes. Do some research and come up with some interesting insights. Don't just blab all the time - its a bit old and quite boring.

I think that Melo is gone next year but it would be funny if Jax gave him a stupid contract just to see you guys bitch and moan (NOT REALLY).

you keep defending yourself saying you are not a carmelo fan.. truth be told, you are a homer, trying to hide behind the " I am not a carmelo fan" talk.. Your post show otherwise...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

dude I pegged you from the start as a double talking snake oil salesman.. and you have lived up to it....

you are not being open minded at all.. the poster asked if carmelo was that injured as to his terrible play.. you made it seem as if he was crazy for even hinting at it.. by asking him the silly and condescending question " did you examine him".. so I ask you... a simple question... is carmelo this bad or maybe he is really hurt? you said you don't know? well I will rephrase it.. do you think he is that hurt or do you think he really is this bad? either way you look foolish trying to take a piss on that posters comment..... It is not like the carmelo shoulder injury hasn't been documented... AGAIN.....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/7/2014  11:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2014  11:46 AM
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dwiley20 wrote:awwffulll....Melo you are not that hurt

How do you know this? Did you examine him?

well he has been awful... so either he is that hurt or he has flat out sucked.... which is it?

I don't know, do you?

What I think was that he was hurt but if thats the case, he should not be taking 17 shots.

I will not use fuzzy logic to conclude anything.

well try using some logic at all..

carmelo has been pretty bad of late... so either he is just flat out sucking... or maybe he is hurt to the point he should not be on the court... I don't think he is hurt that bad... I have other thoughts... but asking a poster if he examined carmelo is a bit ridiculous, especially if you don't feel these performances are typical of the kind of play he has been giving the knicks... the poster obviously feels something is wrong, and just sucking isn't one of them.. the possibility of him being "that hurt" is somewhat real...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

team wins, player x is on the team and their best player (supposedly - facts/stats not included or deprecated ones), therefore, player x is better than player y who is the best player on his team that has not won.

Fuzzy logic.

I am no carmelo fan but I like to be open minded about him too instead of being blinded by a vendetta.

Post some numbers sometimes. Do some research and come up with some interesting insights. Don't just blab all the time - its a bit old and quite boring.

I think that Melo is gone next year but it would be funny if Jax gave him a stupid contract just to see you guys bitch and moan (NOT REALLY).

you keep defending yourself saying you are not a carmelo fan.. truth be told, you are a homer, trying to hide behind the " I am not a carmelo fan" talk.. Your post show otherwise...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

dude I pegged you from the start as a double talking snake oil salesman.. and you have lived up to it....

you are not being open minded at all.. the poster asked if carmelo was that injured as to his terrible play.. you made it seem as if he was crazy for even hinting at it.. by asking him the silly and condescending question " did you examine him".. so I ask you... a simple question... is carmelo this bad or maybe he is really hurt? you said you don't know? well I will rephrase it.. do you think he is that hurt or do you think he really is this bad? either way you look foolish trying to take a piss on that posters comment..... It is not like the carmelo shoulder injury hasn't been documented... AGAIN.....

AGAIN - I will end up embarrassing you as usual.

The poster said "Melo, you are NOT that hurt" (TKF, Did you comprehend this statement?)

I said "how do you know? Did you examine him"?

Did you even look at this? Read? Comprehend? Anything? Or did your Hypersensitivity and low self esteem just trigger an(other) ooopsy episode? Do you just sh1t some sh1t just to sh1t Melo sh1t?

Only a dope comes at a guy who may be hurt and pick on a couple of games since the supposed/reported injury instead of looking at his overall season and responsibilities. But you are what you are.

He had a very efficient year carrying a pile of sh1t but as you have shown with your simplistic comments that you don't know or follow or understand efficiency so again I knock on your rock.

If you FOCUS and follow my comments and critiques of a said player, you would see and perhaps (though not likely) comprehend what it means to be open minded and balanced.

"Is carmelo this bad or is he hurt"?

Is this a real question or part of your fuzzy reasoning? The question in itself makes no sense however I will not even try to explain why because it is pointless to give an explanation to one who does not have the ability to comprehend as it would be to have a puppet show for blind people.

Like before, let me know how I can help because I have a flaw in me then does not let me give up on people. Its the Charlie Brown in me.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/7/2014  12:38 PM
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dwiley20 wrote:awwffulll....Melo you are not that hurt

How do you know this? Did you examine him?

well he has been awful... so either he is that hurt or he has flat out sucked.... which is it?

I don't know, do you?

What I think was that he was hurt but if thats the case, he should not be taking 17 shots.

I will not use fuzzy logic to conclude anything.

well try using some logic at all..

carmelo has been pretty bad of late... so either he is just flat out sucking... or maybe he is hurt to the point he should not be on the court... I don't think he is hurt that bad... I have other thoughts... but asking a poster if he examined carmelo is a bit ridiculous, especially if you don't feel these performances are typical of the kind of play he has been giving the knicks... the poster obviously feels something is wrong, and just sucking isn't one of them.. the possibility of him being "that hurt" is somewhat real...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

team wins, player x is on the team and their best player (supposedly - facts/stats not included or deprecated ones), therefore, player x is better than player y who is the best player on his team that has not won.

Fuzzy logic.

I am no carmelo fan but I like to be open minded about him too instead of being blinded by a vendetta.

Post some numbers sometimes. Do some research and come up with some interesting insights. Don't just blab all the time - its a bit old and quite boring.

I think that Melo is gone next year but it would be funny if Jax gave him a stupid contract just to see you guys bitch and moan (NOT REALLY).

you keep defending yourself saying you are not a carmelo fan.. truth be told, you are a homer, trying to hide behind the " I am not a carmelo fan" talk.. Your post show otherwise...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

dude I pegged you from the start as a double talking snake oil salesman.. and you have lived up to it....

you are not being open minded at all.. the poster asked if carmelo was that injured as to his terrible play.. you made it seem as if he was crazy for even hinting at it.. by asking him the silly and condescending question " did you examine him".. so I ask you... a simple question... is carmelo this bad or maybe he is really hurt? you said you don't know? well I will rephrase it.. do you think he is that hurt or do you think he really is this bad? either way you look foolish trying to take a piss on that posters comment..... It is not like the carmelo shoulder injury hasn't been documented... AGAIN.....

AGAIN - I will end up embarrassing you as usual.

The poster said "Melo, you are NOT that hurt" (TKF, Did you comprehend this statement?)

I said "how do you know? Did you examine him"?

Did you even look at this? Read? Comprehend? Anything? Or did your Hypersensitivity and low self esteem just trigger an(other) ooopsy episode? Do you just sh1t some sh1t just to sh1t Melo sh1t?

Only a dope comes at a guy who may be hurt and pick on a couple of games since the supposed/reported injury instead of looking at his overall season and responsibilities. But you are what you are.

He had a very efficient year carrying a pile of sh1t but as you have shown with your simplistic comments that you don't know or follow or understand efficiency so again I knock on your rock.

If you FOCUS and follow my comments and critiques of a said player, you would see and perhaps (though not likely) comprehend what it means to be open minded and balanced.

"Is carmelo this bad or is he hurt"?

Is this a real question or part of your fuzzy reasoning? The question in itself makes no sense however I will not even try to explain why because it is pointless to give an explanation to one who does not have the ability to comprehend as it would be to have a puppet show for blind people.

Like before, let me know how I can help because I have a flaw in me then does not let me give up on people. Its the Charlie Brown in me.

Some other fuzzy questions you may be able to help tkf/dtkf dynamic duo with, provided you use enough snake oil/homer dope:

"When did Melo realize he was so much more useless than what we were forced to give up to get him?"
"Why has Melo always been this greedy and self-centered?"
"How did Denver manage to dump such a team cancer on our franchise?"
"What would it take to erase the memory of this wasted 4 years of the Melo-error?"
"With Melo being one of the worst players in the history of the league, and why would homers continue to root for him when everyone knows this?"
"Even if he could make my dog come back to life, why should I ever fathom rooting for Melo?"


Melo is playing through a documented shoulder injury. Documented in several other threads, right here in the UK. With quotes from the newspapers and everything. Two back to back really bad performances and now we all can admit that he's just really this bad.

And to think, despite the injury, he kept trying to score the basketball. Unbelievable.

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4/7/2014  12:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2014  12:52 PM
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dwiley20 wrote:awwffulll....Melo you are not that hurt

How do you know this? Did you examine him?

well he has been awful... so either he is that hurt or he has flat out sucked.... which is it?

I don't know, do you?

What I think was that he was hurt but if thats the case, he should not be taking 17 shots.

I will not use fuzzy logic to conclude anything.

well try using some logic at all..

carmelo has been pretty bad of late... so either he is just flat out sucking... or maybe he is hurt to the point he should not be on the court... I don't think he is hurt that bad... I have other thoughts... but asking a poster if he examined carmelo is a bit ridiculous, especially if you don't feel these performances are typical of the kind of play he has been giving the knicks... the poster obviously feels something is wrong, and just sucking isn't one of them.. the possibility of him being "that hurt" is somewhat real...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

team wins, player x is on the team and their best player (supposedly - facts/stats not included or deprecated ones), therefore, player x is better than player y who is the best player on his team that has not won.

Fuzzy logic.

I am no carmelo fan but I like to be open minded about him too instead of being blinded by a vendetta.

Post some numbers sometimes. Do some research and come up with some interesting insights. Don't just blab all the time - its a bit old and quite boring.

I think that Melo is gone next year but it would be funny if Jax gave him a stupid contract just to see you guys bitch and moan (NOT REALLY).

you keep defending yourself saying you are not a carmelo fan.. truth be told, you are a homer, trying to hide behind the " I am not a carmelo fan" talk.. Your post show otherwise...

I tried using logic with you a number of times but with you I am knocking on a rock.

dude I pegged you from the start as a double talking snake oil salesman.. and you have lived up to it....

you are not being open minded at all.. the poster asked if carmelo was that injured as to his terrible play.. you made it seem as if he was crazy for even hinting at it.. by asking him the silly and condescending question " did you examine him".. so I ask you... a simple question... is carmelo this bad or maybe he is really hurt? you said you don't know? well I will rephrase it.. do you think he is that hurt or do you think he really is this bad? either way you look foolish trying to take a piss on that posters comment..... It is not like the carmelo shoulder injury hasn't been documented... AGAIN.....

AGAIN - I will end up embarrassing you as usual.

The poster said "Melo, you are NOT that hurt" (TKF, Did you comprehend this statement?)

I said "how do you know? Did you examine him"?

Did you even look at this? Read? Comprehend? Anything? Or did your Hypersensitivity and low self esteem just trigger an(other) ooopsy episode? Do you just sh1t some sh1t just to sh1t Melo sh1t?

Only a dope comes at a guy who may be hurt and pick on a couple of games since the supposed/reported injury instead of looking at his overall season and responsibilities. But you are what you are.

He had a very efficient year carrying a pile of sh1t but as you have shown with your simplistic comments that you don't know or follow or understand efficiency so again I knock on your rock.

If you FOCUS and follow my comments and critiques of a said player, you would see and perhaps (though not likely) comprehend what it means to be open minded and balanced.

"Is carmelo this bad or is he hurt"?

Is this a real question or part of your fuzzy reasoning? The question in itself makes no sense however I will not even try to explain why because it is pointless to give an explanation to one who does not have the ability to comprehend as it would be to have a puppet show for blind people.

Like before, let me know how I can help because I have a flaw in me then does not let me give up on people. Its the Charlie Brown in me.

your legs must hurt jumping from one side of the fence to another.. I know exactly what he said.... and my question stands... either carmelo is that hurt or he just sucks right now.. which one is it?

You are absolutely horrible at this kind of stuff, you dance around questions like john Travolta with the tacky shirt and 70's hair on his chest peeking out of his shirt.. your act is corny. why not answer the question...

He had a very efficient year carrying a pile of sh1t but as you have shown with your simplistic comments that you don't know or follow or understand efficiency so again I knock on your rock.

And now he is playing very bad.... if he is that hurt, he should not be on the court taking 17 shots.. so I completely understand his question....

dude I see right through you, you are carmelo sensitive.. did that posters comment really deserve a response? you said something because you have an emotional attachment to carmelo... I am giving you an opportunity right not to avoid the flip flop route.. just man up now and say you are a carmelo apologist.. another poster did the same thing you are doing right now.. you start off every comment you make saying " I am not a carmelo fan". who are you trying to convince?.. LOL..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/7/2014  12:54 PM
TKF,

telling someone that they are bad debaters and using that as your winning moment is a very common tactic. Research what I mean by that.

Did I say that it is crazy for someone to think that he is hurt? Do you see how your first sentence collides with this (prolly not)? Or, did you still not go back/scroll and read? Are you freakin kidding me?

Your not even using fuzzy reasoning anymore - you are not even trying! Now what happened to the “You can’t give me a C. I’m an A student!” Tkf that we all love and laugh at. Nobody is laughing anymore. Its no longer even amusing - its just sad.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/7/2014  1:04 PM
The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.
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TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

When the OP states "awful ... Melo, you are not that hurt(!!!!)"

That is a conclusion that made little sense and had little to back it up. Hence my question / response.

It was not that complicated unless ...

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/7/2014  1:12 PM
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TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?


I think he is but that remains to be seen.

I agree on your other points as well. His lingering shoulder issues can be a bad sign for the future, especially if we manage to keep him.

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4/7/2014  1:13 PM
mreinman wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

When the OP states "awful ... Melo, you are not that hurt(!!!!)"

That is a conclusion that made little sense and had little to back it up. Hence my question / response.

It was not that complicated unless ...


Exactly. It's a pretty ridiculous statement.
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4/7/2014  1:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2014  1:16 PM
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?

Yes. Its very alarming and will probably cost him a helluva lot of money. His style won't last especially at these insane USG rates.

He can only last in a system that used him similar to the olympics. Have other creators create open shots for him.

He is one of the top few players at hitting open uncontested shots. Those are the shots that he needs to take.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/7/2014  1:17 PM
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?

is that what's happening with lebron?

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4/7/2014  1:22 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?

Yes. Its very alarming and will probably cost him a helluva lot of money. His style won't last especially at these insane USG rates.

He can only last in a system that used him similar to the olympics. Have other creators create open shots for him.

He is one of the top few players at hitting open uncontested shots. Those are the shots that he needs to take.


Definitely needs a situation where things are made easier for him. Better guys around him, a system in place, BUT he also has to be willing to play off the ball more.
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TeamBall wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

When the OP states "awful ... Melo, you are not that hurt(!!!!)"

That is a conclusion that made little sense and had little to back it up. Hence my question / response.

It was not that complicated unless ...


Exactly. It's a pretty ridiculous statement.

Unless of course you just know Melo flat out sucks and you don't really need (or care) if anything opposing that thought makes sense.

If you do happen to think requesting facts to back up a statement like that makes sense, then you obviously are a blind homer with no knowledge of the NBA. Go watch a game.

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TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?


I think he is but that remains to be seen.

I agree on your other points as well. His lingering shoulder issues can be a bad sign for the future, especially if we manage to keep him.

yeah does anybody remember dale davis?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/7/2014  1:26 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?

is that what's happening with lebron?

please look at lebron's shoulder girdles. he has really bulked them up over time. doesn't mean he won't get hurt too but as naturally strong carmelo is he is doing himself no favors by not trying to build up the tissue in both shoulders.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/7/2014  1:49 PM
mreinman wrote:
tkf wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dwiley20 wrote:awwffulll....Melo you are not that hurt

How do you know this? Did you examine him?

well he has been awful... so either he is that hurt or he has flat out sucked.... which is it?

I don't know, do you?

What I think was that he was hurt but if thats the case, he should not be taking 17 shots.

I will not use fuzzy logic to conclude anything.

TKF, see what I said (lets try the Genesis route). See what I said - no reason to feel like a douche though KEEP - HEAD - HIGH.

Love that you "see right through me though", do you do that through your (Nalod) Hate Colored Melo Glasses? Cause dem glasses be phucked ..... up!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/7/2014  1:54 PM
dk7th wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:The original point ("how do you know this? Did you examine him?") seems to be that we don't know. You can't say he's not that hurt because we're not anywhere near close enough to the situation to come to that conclusion. Therefore, you can't really answer whether he is "that hurt or just that bad" since we don't know exactly what's going on with his shoulder. Really only Melo knows how he feels.

bottom line carmelo anthony's injuries to both shoulders looks to be the beginning of a trend. obviously the way he plays the game is taking its toll. this bully ball stuff is really not very effective.

seems to me he isn't going to be as valuable to the knicks unless he gets the shoulders attended to surgically, does some sort of regimen that allows him to strengthen them, and is willing to take less money to learn how to play in a system that requires him to be in supreme shape and work on his legs and conditioning. is he coachable?

is that what's happening with lebron?

please look at lebron's shoulder girdles. he has really bulked them up over time. doesn't mean he won't get hurt too but as naturally strong carmelo is he is doing himself no favors by not trying to build up the tissue in both shoulders.

so you are going by appearance versus someone who can quote carmelo's workout habits?

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