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OFFICIAL 2014 NBA Trade Deadline Thread
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misterearl
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2/21/2014  8:29 AM
The trade deadline is just a distraction. 2014-2015 set the stage for NYK ascendance or continued mediocrity.

Which way is up?

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franco12
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2/21/2014  9:23 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Dolan hit rock bottom when the coomieh intervened and had him hire someone other than isiah. The sexual harrasment suit and being the least professional organization in sports should have been rock bottom. Personally I have heard enough b s about the melo trade to last a lifetime. I want the Knicks to make the playoffs and for the first round pick that was traded to not be a lottery pick. I also don't want melo to walk to teach Dolan a lesson. I don't really get that logic but I know there is a lot of upside to cap space. The Knicks haven't done much with their cap space or draft picks for me to have confidence that they will make the right or better decisions. The owner is frustrating but I don't want to see the Knicks team not have success, have misfortune and look stupid in hopes that he wii change his ways. It all has happened before and it sucked. I just want the Knicks to win and get in the playoffs.

I don't think Dolan hit rock bottom. He was about to hire Isiah back!

I want the same thing. I want the Knicks to be winners. I'm fine without them being champions- just get a team that isn't embarrassing!

Last year was awesome, but looking at what is happening this year, and the assets we have available in the near term, I don't see hope.

The way I look at it, the knick franchise has gangrene. A limb has to be sacrificed and it's going to hurt. Let's get this over with ASAP, and start to move forward in a productive way.

I don't have anything against Melo. But he is going to be on the wrong side of 30 with too many minutes to be worth the contract we are likely to give him.

Wanting him gone so this franchise wakes up and builds smart is, in my mind, rational, as irrational as that might seem.

fishmike
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2/21/2014  11:25 AM
Franco I hear you, but there just isnt logic there. Melo is the only thing keeping this remotely close to respectable. He was once one of the best closers in the league and this coach has run him into the ground.

If you got enough pieces to reboot... like a couple of good young guys and a high pick OK. But again.. we went through that and this management couldnt do anything right. We drafted a lot of solid players last few years and added others but were a disaster.

There arent a lot of players who can simply will you a win when you need one. We have seen Melo do this many times, even for a month at a time!

Bottom line: We resign Lin and dont make the Bargs trade and this team is winning the division.

We will see this offseason, if Melo resigns and for how much.

Remember, all the good young talent we had played like total crap until we added STAT who was playing like a star. There's a crowd here who wants to quanitfy play with stats and dismiss the impact of having an impact player on the floor, but havent we seen it first hand? First with Amare? Now with Melo? I mean last year we had good guard play and thats really the only difference in these squads.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Nalod
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2/21/2014  2:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Are we sti trying to dictate to others how to be fans?

The mecca needs no such tutorial. We are born impatient!!

franco12
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2/21/2014  10:03 PM
fishmike wrote:Franco I hear you, but there just isnt logic there. Melo is the only thing keeping this remotely close to respectable. He was once one of the best closers in the league and this coach has run him into the ground.

If you got enough pieces to reboot... like a couple of good young guys and a high pick OK. But again.. we went through that and this management couldnt do anything right. We drafted a lot of solid players last few years and added others but were a disaster.

There arent a lot of players who can simply will you a win when you need one. We have seen Melo do this many times, even for a month at a time!

Bottom line: We resign Lin and dont make the Bargs trade and this team is winning the division.

We will see this offseason, if Melo resigns and for how much.

Remember, all the good young talent we had played like total crap until we added STAT who was playing like a star. There's a crowd here who wants to quanitfy play with stats and dismiss the impact of having an impact player on the floor, but havent we seen it first hand? First with Amare? Now with Melo? I mean last year we had good guard play and thats really the only difference in these squads.

I agree with everything you said. And my argument for having this thing crater out in utter disaster- Melo leaves for nothing, Denver gets the #1 pick in the draft thanks to us- is that is the only way I see this owner maybe waking up to realize what a horrible organization he has built. And I'm not sure he would with that. I believe he is a true narcissist.

Also- part of the reason I want Melo to leave is for his sake. He's a good ball player. He deserves better.

OFFICIAL 2014 NBA Trade Deadline Thread

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