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1/20/2014  5:26 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
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Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
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1/20/2014  5:27 PM
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Clean wrote:Gif from the website.


I don't even understand what the hell our players are doing there defensively- it's inexcusable to be a vet and be that clueless on defense. Pathetic- Melo's reaction is my reaction

Get rid of these clueless losers

Some posters have stated that Melo doesn't care about winning, only his numbers and his $. That reaction, as well as numerous comments he's made throughout the season say other wise....


Well lets be honest, some of those posters already didn't like him to begin with. I wouldn't be surprised to see this spun to the point where he's blamed for showing his emotion like that.
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1/20/2014  5:28 PM
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Clean wrote:Gif from the website.


I don't even understand what the hell our players are doing there defensively- it's inexcusable to be a vet and be that clueless on defense. Pathetic- Melo's reaction is my reaction

Get rid of these clueless losers

Some posters have stated that Melo doesn't care about winning, only his numbers and his $. That reaction, as well as numerous comments he's made throughout the season say other wise....

They are morons . He has competed every night results notwithstanding which is a rarity in the pros
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1/20/2014  5:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2014  5:30 PM
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Clean wrote:Gif from the website.


I don't even understand what the hell our players are doing there defensively- it's inexcusable to be a vet and be that clueless on defense. Pathetic- Melo's reaction is my reaction

Get rid of these clueless losers

Some posters have stated that Melo doesn't care about winning, only his numbers and his $. That reaction, as well as numerous comments he's made throughout the season say other wise....

Been happening to all the players all year...Bargs did something similar during the game, I kept rewinding it for my wife...Good things happen when Prigs is on the court..

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1/20/2014  5:31 PM
Prigs competes but he is a backup in this league and maybe a 3rd pg on many teams. The fact that we cite his positives speaks volumes about the lack of talent on this team
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1/20/2014  5:33 PM
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
I guess is that time of the month for you lol. Anyway it sounds easy to trade guys like jr but nobody is gonna take him. I think melo is a great scorer but i dont put him on the level of lebron kobe and durant. Also he is moving into his 30's so giving him a monster contract is risky
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1/20/2014  5:42 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
I guess is that time of the month for you lol. Anyway it sounds easy to trade guys like jr but nobody is gonna take him. I think melo is a great scorer but i dont put him on the level of lebron kobe and durant. Also he is moving into his 30's so giving him a monster contract is risky
Dont believe the blogs that default. JR is tradeable as our most of our players to fill roles for contenders as the trade deadline nears. Even Amare and Bargs might be moveable for a decent player next year as teams juggle. You wait out a year to rebuild with a star in place rather than undergo a four yeasr rebuild hoping that lottery balls land a young stud. Talent wins in this league and every true contender has two stars in place. You dont shed the one we have, you shed the averageness around him and get ready to lure another in 15/16
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1/20/2014  5:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2014  5:46 PM
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
I guess is that time of the month for you lol. Anyway it sounds easy to trade guys like jr but nobody is gonna take him. I think melo is a great scorer but i dont put him on the level of lebron kobe and durant. Also he is moving into his 30's so giving him a monster contract is risky
Dont believe the blogs that default. JR is tradeable as our most of our players to fill roles for contenders as the trade deadline nears. Even Amare and Bargs might be moveable for a decent player next year as teams juggle. You wait out a year to rebuild with a star in place rather than undergo a four yeasr rebuild hoping that lottery balls land a young stud. Talent wins in this league and every true contender has two stars in place. You dont shed the one we have, you shed the averageness around him and get ready to lure another in 15/16
Personally i think melo wants out. i mean melo has had a bad playoff history even when he wasnt a knick. The Knicks can simply get some nice assets/picks and then get some FA in the 2015 class
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1/20/2014  5:48 PM
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
I guess is that time of the month for you lol. Anyway it sounds easy to trade guys like jr but nobody is gonna take him. I think melo is a great scorer but i dont put him on the level of lebron kobe and durant. Also he is moving into his 30's so giving him a monster contract is risky
Dont believe the blogs that default. JR is tradeable as our most of our players to fill roles for contenders as the trade deadline nears. Even Amare and Bargs might be moveable for a decent player next year as teams juggle. You wait out a year to rebuild with a star in place rather than undergo a four yeasr rebuild hoping that lottery balls land a young stud. Talent wins in this league and every true contender has two stars in place. You dont shed the one we have, you shed the averageness around him and get ready to lure another in 15/16

You are assuming Melo comes back next year.
You are assuming by trading Amare, JR etc we will get players with expiring contracts only to preserve cap space.
You are assuming that the player that we can get back for our trash will not be trash.
You are assuming that star players will want to come here. It did not happen last time unless you consider Amare a star.

That is a lot to assume.

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1/20/2014  5:52 PM
Clean wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
I guess is that time of the month for you lol. Anyway it sounds easy to trade guys like jr but nobody is gonna take him. I think melo is a great scorer but i dont put him on the level of lebron kobe and durant. Also he is moving into his 30's so giving him a monster contract is risky
Dont believe the blogs that default. JR is tradeable as our most of our players to fill roles for contenders as the trade deadline nears. Even Amare and Bargs might be moveable for a decent player next year as teams juggle. You wait out a year to rebuild with a star in place rather than undergo a four yeasr rebuild hoping that lottery balls land a young stud. Talent wins in this league and every true contender has two stars in place. You dont shed the one we have, you shed the averageness around him and get ready to lure another in 15/16

You are assuming Melo comes back next year.
You are assuming by trading Amare, JR etc we will get players with expiring contracts only to preserve cap space.
You are assuming that the player that we can get back for our trash will not be trash.
You are assuming that star players will want to come here. It did not happen last time unless you consider Amare a star.

That is a lot to assume.

Exactly. Im trying to be more realistic
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1/20/2014  6:01 PM
Tyson going after Woody with his comments after the game?
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1/20/2014  6:02 PM
No one should question Melo's desire to win the guy is a winner. There is just to much crap that surrounds him. He is going into games with a bunch of backups and third stringers and a few D-leaguers. Holy f'ing shyt. When everyone opens their eyes and looks at the team without rose colored glasses you will find that there are two keepers on this team and that is Melo and Hardaway going forward. Up and down this roster there is not a player that you would consider starter material. Chandler might be the closest thing to a starter since the league is devoid of centers.
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1/20/2014  6:09 PM
Clean wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
Clean wrote:LOL! I love Melo's reaction.

http://deadspin.com/the-2013-2014-new-york-knicks-everyone-1505293263?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

So long Melo, I dont blame you
its time to move on anyway. We need to trade him and get at least soemthing decent back. we are never gonna get back the value we traded him for which isnt surprising considering dolan is a moron
Stars win, we have one and you want to trade him. This isnt Oklahoma or some other backward town where we should lose big and hope that lottery balls fall our way
What have teh Knicks accomplished in the past 14 years? Wow one 54 season. OKC has built through the draft and been competitive for a long time and will continue. 90% of our fans would love to have the talent that the backward town Oklahoma has
So you think NY can go into four seasons or more knowing that we dont have a chance to be competitive just to get high draft picks and hope a star falls into our lap. You have one, get another and build around them
You dont seem to undertand we dont have any assets to build around melo. we have no cap space or assets
Wrong. We have cap space approaching . Trades should be done now to put some pieces in place and let Melo know that a rebuild will take one season.
No im not wrong. we dont have cap space until after next season. Melo is gonna opt out after this year so it looks like he is gone and we cant let him go for nothing
No sheeet!!!! What dont you understand???? 2015/16 is one season away for Melo. Knicks have just $10 mil in player options (JR and Felton) Move them and others now for pieces and let Melo know that they will get one otr more quality running mates instead of surrounding him with this group. Felton, Shumpert, Jr and others hsould all be moved instead of trading trhe one star we have
I guess is that time of the month for you lol. Anyway it sounds easy to trade guys like jr but nobody is gonna take him. I think melo is a great scorer but i dont put him on the level of lebron kobe and durant. Also he is moving into his 30's so giving him a monster contract is risky
Dont believe the blogs that default. JR is tradeable as our most of our players to fill roles for contenders as the trade deadline nears. Even Amare and Bargs might be moveable for a decent player next year as teams juggle. You wait out a year to rebuild with a star in place rather than undergo a four yeasr rebuild hoping that lottery balls land a young stud. Talent wins in this league and every true contender has two stars in place. You dont shed the one we have, you shed the averageness around him and get ready to lure another in 15/16

You are assuming Melo comes back next year.
You are assuming by trading Amare, JR etc we will get players with expiring contracts only to preserve cap space.
You are assuming that the player that we can get back for our trash will not be trash.
You are assuming that star players will want to come here. It did not happen last time unless you consider Amare a star.

That is a lot to assume.

You are assuming that Im looking for a good return. Wrong. Knicks can shed players in the next three weeks and they dont have to take back crappy deals to do so. JR, Shumpert and even Felton can be shed to contenders with hope and holes. Melo return? Here is my assumption He's gone unless the deck is cleared. He can wait a year for a second star and some useful pieces to be added , he aint waiting around with this cast. No one is a LebRon and he's not a Durant but Melo's a stud and you dont shed him for picks and start a four year rebuild . Tell me what we get in a Melotrade whicjh would lure stars in 15/16?
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1/20/2014  6:10 PM
Vmart wrote:No one should question Melo's desire to win the guy is a winner. There is just to much crap that surrounds him. He is going into games with a bunch of backups and third stringers and a few D-leaguers. Holy f'ing shyt. When everyone opens their eyes and looks at the team without rose colored glasses you will find that there are two keepers on this team and that is Melo and Hardaway going forward. Up and down this roster there is not a player that you would consider starter material. Chandler might be the closest thing to a starter since the league is devoid of centers.
Someone who gets it
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1/20/2014  6:53 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Tyson going after Woody with his comments after the game?

I think he wants out, he has been yapping of late and not giving his all...Barkley said he was the heart and soul of the Knicks...He doesn't play every night and his frequest illnesses are just too much..

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1/20/2014  8:57 PM
I hate this team.

I hate everything about it, from ownership to the last man on the bench.

If Im still a fan, its because of the past, and you can't live on the past.

Only way to have a silver lining here is to trade everybody with trade value.

Its ironic because this might be my favorite season from Melo, but he has to be traded along with everybody else.

There is no other way to fix this than to start over.

New coach, new philosophy, new players and just simply a breath of new fresh air.

If that doesn't happen, Im gone. Ill check scores a few times but really, the fan in me is on its last breath as this is simpky the biggest embarrassment in an already embarrassing franchise.

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1/20/2014  9:20 PM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Tyson going after Woody with his comments after the game?

I think he wants out, he has been yapping of late and not giving his all...Barkley said he was the heart and soul of the Knicks...He doesn't play every night and his frequest illnesses are just too much..

He has become quick to criticize in the media when he is supposed to be a leader on the team and the guy with championship pedigree. He is always hurt and when he comes back he is weak from illness and disrupts the flow the team had (they did have chemistry finally pre-Tyson returning) and then complains about others. If the Knicks can get something reasonable for him move him out.
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1/20/2014  10:24 PM
Woody does suck. His use of Tyson and Bargs despite the fact that they suck playing together is horrible. He continues to stay with Felton despite the fact that he sucks on both ends and the list goes on really. However I do find it funny how Tyson always complains about this and that but doesn't get called out for it.
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1/21/2014  2:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2014  3:11 AM
Chandler said they "out schemed" us..Yeah Blache taking those wide open jumpers was pure trickery ..Guys like to say Tyson is a leader..He isn't ..Leaders own up to their short comings which he didn't do against Indy and yesterday..
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1/21/2014  6:29 AM
Here's the thing, Woody's scheme exposes guys like Tyson to being abused. A better defensive scheme would allow Tyson to stay in a zone where he's minimizing his weaknesses and maximizing his strengths. This whole team is subject to that kind of exposure and it's in no small part attributable to Woody's coaching.

He came in as this guy who preached accountability, but it was all talk. He's not really a guy that will get in a players face or sit a player for a long stretch if needed. Guys like JR and Felton can do whatever on the court and what does Woody do? NOTHING! If Bargs is loafing, he should pull him and get in his face, but what does Woody do? NOTHING! He's just a fraud.

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