NardDogNation wrote:

Nalod wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

arkrud wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:My 2 cents...

White people really can't understand what a black or minority person feels or has gone through - but they should be sensitive, respectful and aware!

Don't know Briggs - but his perspective is his own (based on his experiences and exposure) - no sense being mad that he doesn't share others - could he really share Misterearls?

Many white people do carry a sense of guilt/responsibility - even if they do their best to not contribute/reinforce negative stereotypes and racist views

As a white person, I do see lots of racism (subtle and overt) and try to do my responsible piece (above). I think many white people claim/feel intimidated by the reality of other people's existence, and don't know what to do or how to act. Confronting an African American person's family history can be uncomprehensible for a privileged/white person. The facts/history are often horrible. I like that Briggs introduced this topic - perhaps his subconscious wanted him to learn/expand his views?

Peace!

As a Jewish national I can relate to this.
We were slaves in ancient Egypt, we faced segregation for 2 thousand years, we faced genocide hundreds of times including complete extinction of 6 million European Jews by Nazis with massive help of all European nations and silence from the rest of the world.
So what kind of affirmative action we should ask from human race?
Will it bring back 1 million children killed in concentration camps?
No. We are doing our own affirmative action. We are rising above hate and we still believe in good in all people.
We do not forget but we forgive. And so we persist and advance.
Racism is 2-side process. To exist it not only should be expressed but should be answered back.
If you answer with love and understanding to the hate - there is no more hate.

With all due respect, you got a country that had been subsidized by other countries, billions of dollars in aid after the fact and fat contracts for the best weapons money can buy. There are similarities between our two peoples and then there is that HUGE difference. More importantly, lets cut the **** that affirmative action was some kind of handout for blacks because to this day, the biggest beneficiaries have been white people (namely white women) and has been similarly enjoyed by other minorities.

Yes, your racism is worse than his racism. Your racisim is your reality, but if you digest others you might find some very good stories.

Are you trying to accuse me of being racist?

Not at all, just be open about others plight and history. Isreal's existance and finacial support does change history. Some how if Isreal exists it some how lessen the holocost?

All im saying is just not to say one is worse then the other. Is Genocide worse than Slavery? Lets not compare, lets say they are different and have devastating effects.

We all have our own experiences or our families for historical basis. I know families devistated by the Holocost. Future generations will move on and it will decrease. Today a poster discussed how bad it felt to be in law professional in a a firm being the only minority in the practice. A few generations removed from slavery he IS working in a law office and maybe making good money where there has not been a minority in the firm before. Is that progress? There was a time when getting a good educaton still did not open doors to those who were qualified and deserved consideration. His discrimination is not a violation of human rights, not paid, whipped, or other horrorable acts. Still discrimination hurts, but its progress. Todays generation makes strides of tolerace and advancement on both sides. Today is better than yesterday, and tomorrow COULD be better still.

Genocide still takes place on the planet as does slavery. We are not just americans but part of the human race. My point is to digest others plights besides the American black exerience, or the German Jewsish experience, but the human experience.

I am an optomist and see history can repeat itself, but it also evolves with positive effect as well.

It disgusts me to see how Obama is portrayed by racist attitudes but it marks progress that our country voted in a Black American as the President of the United States! Thats ten steps forward and maybe 2 steps back. Its still 8 steps forward!!!

arkrud wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

arkrud wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:My 2 cents...

White people really can't understand what a black or minority person feels or has gone through - but they should be sensitive, respectful and aware!

Don't know Briggs - but his perspective is his own (based on his experiences and exposure) - no sense being mad that he doesn't share others - could he really share Misterearls?

Many white people do carry a sense of guilt/responsibility - even if they do their best to not contribute/reinforce negative stereotypes and racist views

As a white person, I do see lots of racism (subtle and overt) and try to do my responsible piece (above). I think many white people claim/feel intimidated by the reality of other people's existence, and don't know what to do or how to act. Confronting an African American person's family history can be uncomprehensible for a privileged/white person. The facts/history are often horrible. I like that Briggs introduced this topic - perhaps his subconscious wanted him to learn/expand his views?

Peace!

As a Jewish national I can relate to this.
We were slaves in ancient Egypt, we faced segregation for 2 thousand years, we faced genocide hundreds of times including complete extinction of 6 million European Jews by Nazis with massive help of all European nations and silence from the rest of the world.
So what kind of affirmative action we should ask from human race?
Will it bring back 1 million children killed in concentration camps?
No. We are doing our own affirmative action. We are rising above hate and we still believe in good in all people.
We do not forget but we forgive. And so we persist and advance.
Racism is 2-side process. To exist it not only should be expressed but should be answered back.
If you answer with love and understanding to the hate - there is no more hate.

With all due respect, you got a country that had been subsidized by other countries, billions of dollars in aid after the fact and fat contracts for the best weapons money can buy. There are similarities between our two peoples and then there is that HUGE difference. More importantly, lets cut the **** that affirmative action was some kind of handout for blacks because to this day, the biggest beneficiaries have been white people (namely white women) and has been similarly enjoyed by other minorities.

We do not "get a country" - we build it and fight for it.
This is a shelter to keep us alive.
And if it was subsidized - it was subsidized by us.
We earned this wealth and use it for common good instead of wasting it on various bullsht.
Affirmative action is a double-edged sword - it helps and it corrupts.
So we prefer to depend only on what we have not what anybody else will agree to share.

So modern day Israel was not originally a British territory until they decided to give it up in '47 to serve as a home for millions of refugees following WWII/the Holocaust? Is Israel not annually receiving $3 billion in military aid from the U.S. as well as an additional $70 million, courtesy of an Obama administration trying to protect its party's image as being pro-Israel?

I don't want to mull on this issue because it is not the point of my objection but it does touch on it. Like I said before, the ability to generate wealth is the key to the fortunes of a race. A country given to you, 3rd party funds to build the infrastructure of that country and a military built with the world's best technology certainly are tools to be that engine for wealth. "Affirmative Action" like you were suggesting on the hand, is a grossly inadequate comparison. All AA does is serve as a provision to ensure that qualified individuals for a job, university, etc. can not be discriminated against on the basis of their race, gender, ethnicity, etc. And again, that isn't some kind of handout for Black people that Black people "depend on". The majority of our country (aka everyone that isn't a White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant males) has benefited from Affirmative Action.

The real thing that needs to be inquired is of the things being done to help individuals get to the point where they are actually qualified to access these resources. In my opinion, not much is and the the direct opposite is happening. To be perfectly honest, I think that has been the case for centuries for some groups. Ultimately, all peoples have their own individual struggle to go through in life. Some though have to deal with those same struggles while others have to deal with them AND the added factor of race. So lumping everyone together like that is doing a disservice to any attempt made to address these unique problems. That is the point.

playa2 wrote:The history in America was based on HIS- STORY (European) and not a honest description on who was here and did what. Go watch the other clips for a complete re-education on American history . We were denied the truth from the beginning !

Pt 4 Questions and answer period

Pt 2

Pt 1

Pt 3

Here's the whole thing 52:00 min

Thanks for sharing this!!!

jskinny35 wrote:My 2 cents...

White people really can't understand what a black or minority person feels or has gone through - but they should be sensitive, respectful and aware!

Don't know Briggs - but his perspective is his own (based on his experiences and exposure) - no sense being mad that he doesn't share others - could he really share Misterearls?

Many white people do carry a sense of guilt/responsibility - even if they do their best to not contribute/reinforce negative stereotypes and racist views

As a white person, I do see lots of racism (subtle and overt) and try to do my responsible piece (above). I think many white people claim/feel intimidated by the reality of other people's existence, and don't know what to do or how to act. Confronting an African American person's family history can be uncomprehensible for a privileged/white person. The facts/history are often horrible. I like that Briggs introduced this topic - perhaps his subconscious wanted him to learn/expand his views?

Peace!

When it is all said and done, people need to remember that MLK marched with both BLACKS AND WHITES. Harriet Tubman could not have done her good work without White families willing to put their safety at risk. As a minority, we tend to forget this and lump all White folk into the same category just like some White fold dump all minorities into specific categories.

The WE SHALL OVERCOME moment could have never come without the aide of honorable and "right" thinking individuals from both groups. (I hate when people say races since there is only one race of humanity.)

So when we are disparaging and pointing the finger at each other, recognize that we can only progress forward together. Anything less is a regression.

Sure slavery should never have happened, reparations should have been paid but, they weren't, that time is passed and both Blacks and Whites need to take responsibility for the current state of things. We can sit here on this board and debate the PAST but, the real issue is the present. Will another school be shot up?!! Will someone experience a hate crime.??!! We have to each hold our own people accountable and by remaining silent we enable. Call the cops on the guy dealing drugs on your corner. If he is really your friend, he wouldn't be selling in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD (not saying its right, just saying you owe them nothing). Call the cops on that nut hoarding illegal guns that you KNOW may likely be a threat. If you know about children being abused by their parents or families, call social services. If you see a kid being bullied, do something about it or call the police.

I am sure WE ALL have at some point been guilty of ignoring such situations instead of doing the right thing. We can keep pointing fingers or we can start doing something about it.

playa2 wrote:

callmened wrote:Can you give me a summary of what the videos are about? Im at work and cant play videos..thanx

What these videos show is American history left out black.

There is whole section of our history that has been completely wiped off the face of the earth .

A story of group black founding fathers that nobody even talks about anymore, nobody even knew they existed up until the civil war.

A huge piece of American history was removed from our education it was removed from the history books.

In these videos they explain how this information was removed and taken out of our history books. This is a must see for all Americans , don't sleep on this, Americans have been lied to big time !!!

As intelligent as some of you are , not one of you knew anything about this.

I saw a story on the history channel about a Black guy fighting in the Civil war. How he took over one of the British Ships and used it against them. He went on to be a big figure in politics for a while. Unfortunately, the history book won't reflect ANY OF THIS. The founding father of the Chivalric Code in medieval times was created by a Black Roman officer (bet many of you weren't aware that there were Black serving in the Roman forces) who refused to slaughter a group of "peasants" at his leaders command.

So much of Black history has been distorted, eliminated and hidden. The best way to control a people is TO STEAL THEIR IDENTITY. The effects of this are felt to this day.

Many white folks can draw strength and inspiration from their history and the actions of their ancestors. MUST BE NICE. (WOW that was very cynical, but this bothered me since I was a kid).

Nalod wrote:
Piece of Shyt Glen Beck actually has something decent to say? That man is fear mongering ratings grabbing personality who usually spews garbage.

This is about David Barton and the professor from a University, no need to bring in Beck.

They school Beck and the entire audience. This should be taught all over America !

Smalls piloted the ship past the five Confederate forts that guarded the harbor, including Fort Sumter. The renegade ship passed by Sumter approximately 4:30 a.m. He headed straight for the Federal fleet, which was part of the Union blockade of Confederate ports, making sure to hoist a white sheet as a flag. The first ship he encountered was USS Onward, which was preparing to fire until a sailor noticed the white flag. When the Onward's captain boarded the Planter, Smalls requested to raise the United States flag immediately. Smalls turned the Planter over to the United States Navy, along with its cargo of artillery and explosives intended for a Confederate fort.[3]

Because of his extensive knowledge of the shipyards and Confederate defenses, Smalls provided valuable assistance to the Union Navy. He gave detailed information about the harbor's defenses to Admiral Samuel Dupont, commander of the blockading fleet.

Smalls quickly became famous in the North. Numerous newspapers ran articles describing his daring actions. Congress passed a bill, signed by President Abraham Lincoln, that rewarded Smalls and his crewmen with the prize money for the captured Planter. Smalls' own share was $1,500 ($34,000 adjusted for inflation in 2007 dollars), a huge sum for the time. He met Abraham Lincoln in late May 1862 (two weeks later) and gave the President his personal account.

African-Americans’ buying power is expected to reach $1.1 trillion by 2015, according to The State of the African-American Consumer from Nielsen and the National Newspaper Publishers Association (NNPA), a federation of more than 200 Black community newspapers across the U.S. This growing economic potential presents an opportunity for Fortune 500 companies to examine and further understand this important, flourishing market segment. Likewise, when consumers are more aware of their buying power, it can help them make informed decisions about the companies they choose to support.

“Too often, companies don’t realize the inherent differences of our community, are not aware of the market size impact and have not optimized efforts to develop messages beyond those that coincide with Black History Month,” said Cloves Campbell, chairman, NNPA.

Report Highlights

•With a buying power of nearly $1 trillion annually, if African-Americans were a country, they’d be the 16th largest country in the world.

•The number of African-American households earning $75,000 or higher grew by almost 64%, a rate close to 12% greater than the change in the overall population’s earning between 2000 and 2009. This continued growth in affluence, social influence and household income will continue to impact the community’s economic power.

•African-Americans make more shopping trips than all other groups, but spend less money per trip. African-Americans in higher income brackets, also spend 300% more in higher-end retail grocers more than any other high income household.

•There were 23.9 million active African-American Internet users in July 2011 – 76% of whom visited a social networking/blog site.

•33% of all African-Americans own a smartphone.

•African-Americans use more than double the amount of mobile phone voice minutes compared to Whites – 1,298 minutes a month vs. 606.

•The percentage of African-Americans attending college or earning a degree has increased to 44% for men and 53% for women.

newyorknewyork wrote:African Americans spend the most money creating the most tax dollars. Yet the tax dollars don't seem to improve our communities, schooling system, or stop the police who we are the majority ethnic group paying there salaries from harassing us.

I saw a lot of African American police officers harassing African Americans... or may be this was some other black officers (not African Americans)...
Seriously I am getting tired from all this reports and statistics of what each race in US is up to.
Why not just treat us all as Americans... isn't it what this county is about?
Criminals, crooks, lazy booms are just what they are regardless of the color of their skin.
Race is not an excuse and not a ticket to the promised land.
I would want the race to be illegal to be used in any kind of official documents and laws.
We are The People; all having the same rights and the same responsibilities.
All the rest is racism.