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6/2/2013  12:16 AM
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
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knicks1248 wrote:I don't why know some insist on going back to to the origin of melo to the knicks, doesn't even matter, he's here.. Grunwald was looking like a wizard up until the game 6 of the 2nd round of the 2012/2013 playoffs.

But what these playoffs have done is exposed the hell out the knicks roster and now grunwald isn't looking close to a competent GM..Nobody on the roster played consistent right down to the coach.

The loading up on vets back fired so bad,you wanna put your head down and pray nobody notice...TOO LATE, then playing them ridciculous minutes to capture home court that you gave away in the 1st damn game..

Remember when they kept giving DON Cheney extensions even though he kept losing,and I don't want to put woodson in the same BOAT, but as GM you have to be concern with what you have witness in your coaches playoff history..IT AINT GOOD..

When Melo is talking about needing help, should we think that he's tired of woodson calling his # all the time or is melo calling his own number..


Papabear Says

I think Melo took a beating this season and he does not want to go through that again. Since he won the scoring title and took a beating I think he really wants and needs help. He does not want to get a beating like this season again. I believe that he really wants a title and is willing to do what it takes and even giving up some money to get star or good players.

I feel this too. I remember when Wade asked for help and guess what happened next LeBron and Bosh. I think you can take a pulse of the team by what it's star player needs. I think Melo has had enough of playing out of position. Last night I saw LeBron get frustrated guarding West at PF to the point where he was uncharacteristically playing flustered and committing fouls.

Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create. Also Woody needs to get better a execution offense by that I don't mean executing isolation plays.



wade already had a ring right? the point is, the excuse for carmelo is always needing help
.. LOL.. the problem I think is, he needs to be more help... that is always overlooked...


Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create

vmart, every single team in the league needs and wants that... which is why you don't max your team out with such flawed players... tell carmelo to take a cap friendly deal around the 12-15 mil range, one more suited to his actual overall skill set and maybe they can use the extra money to fill in the gaps...

Papabear Says

Oh please stop it with your crap!! Wade had Shaq! end of story!

ROFL... SHAQ had wade

the problem is carmelo is never there for his teamates.....

Pacers just beat the heat again. No way George does that without Hibbert. Switch out Tyson or any knick other than melo for Hibbert and the Knicks are in the conference finals.

who cares.. paul is playing like a star. carmelo take notes..

Paul didn't cost the pacers young players, draft picks, and 20 mil a year..

therefore he can have Hibbert...

carmelo had chandler DPOY, and JR 6th man of the year...

This is why YOU build TEAMS and not Starphuch, then try to tear down the players you traded....in order to sleep well at night...

And switch out felton for Avery bradley and the celtics beat the knicks..

NO EXCUSES!!

LOL


Jr was a rehab project that worked out for the regular season. Flu was a mess. He might have been the worst player in the playoffs for the Knicks (see crapitude article on posting and toasting). Also, the Knicks traded one first round pick. You can't change the trade to suit your hate. The Knicks are finally winning. Without the trade and coaching change the Knicks are a .500
Team at best.

actually we traded two first.. that swap is just as good as a trade, especially with the way denver has been playing...

and so now you are into telling the future... how do you know what the knicks would have been.. are you assuming they would have made no moves had they not traded for old "wait by the bus" anthony?

Answer this.. what are we now? and are you happy with what we are? sure don't sound like it.. LOL..

Busted gallo, gm leaving, ny having their first round pick equals th e Knicks having such a bad record and Denver overachieving to the point where they finish better then the Knicks and move up a spot =better pick? Okay. Who do you foot for by the way?

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6/2/2013  12:27 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
Papabear wrote:
tkf wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I don't why know some insist on going back to to the origin of melo to the knicks, doesn't even matter, he's here.. Grunwald was looking like a wizard up until the game 6 of the 2nd round of the 2012/2013 playoffs.

But what these playoffs have done is exposed the hell out the knicks roster and now grunwald isn't looking close to a competent GM..Nobody on the roster played consistent right down to the coach.

The loading up on vets back fired so bad,you wanna put your head down and pray nobody notice...TOO LATE, then playing them ridciculous minutes to capture home court that you gave away in the 1st damn game..

Remember when they kept giving DON Cheney extensions even though he kept losing,and I don't want to put woodson in the same BOAT, but as GM you have to be concern with what you have witness in your coaches playoff history..IT AINT GOOD..

When Melo is talking about needing help, should we think that he's tired of woodson calling his # all the time or is melo calling his own number..


Papabear Says

I think Melo took a beating this season and he does not want to go through that again. Since he won the scoring title and took a beating I think he really wants and needs help. He does not want to get a beating like this season again. I believe that he really wants a title and is willing to do what it takes and even giving up some money to get star or good players.

I feel this too. I remember when Wade asked for help and guess what happened next LeBron and Bosh. I think you can take a pulse of the team by what it's star player needs. I think Melo has had enough of playing out of position. Last night I saw LeBron get frustrated guarding West at PF to the point where he was uncharacteristically playing flustered and committing fouls.

Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create. Also Woody needs to get better a execution offense by that I don't mean executing isolation plays.



wade already had a ring right? the point is, the excuse for carmelo is always needing help
.. LOL.. the problem I think is, he needs to be more help... that is always overlooked...


Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create

vmart, every single team in the league needs and wants that... which is why you don't max your team out with such flawed players... tell carmelo to take a cap friendly deal around the 12-15 mil range, one more suited to his actual overall skill set and maybe they can use the extra money to fill in the gaps...

Papabear Says

Oh please stop it with your crap!! Wade had Shaq! end of story!

ROFL... SHAQ had wade

the problem is carmelo is never there for his teamates.....

Pacers just beat the heat again. No way George does that without Hibbert. Switch out Tyson or any knick other than melo for Hibbert and the Knicks are in the conference finals.

who cares.. paul is playing like a star. carmelo take notes..

Paul didn't cost the pacers young players, draft picks, and 20 mil a year..

therefore he can have Hibbert...

carmelo had chandler DPOY, and JR 6th man of the year...

This is why YOU build TEAMS and not Starphuch, then try to tear down the players you traded....in order to sleep well at night...

And switch out felton for Avery bradley and the celtics beat the knicks..

NO EXCUSES!!

LOL


Jr was a rehab project that worked out for the regular season. Flu was a mess. He might have been the worst player in the playoffs for the Knicks (see crapitude article on posting and toasting). Also, the Knicks traded one first round pick. You can't change the trade to suit your hate. The Knicks are finally winning. Without the trade and coaching change the Knicks are a .500
Team at best.

actually we traded two first.. that swap is just as good as a trade, especially with the way denver has been playing...

and so now you are into telling the future... how do you know what the knicks would have been.. are you assuming they would have made no moves had they not traded for old "wait by the bus" anthony?

Answer this.. what are we now? and are you happy with what we are? sure don't sound like it.. LOL..

Busted gallo, gm leaving, ny having their first round pick equals th e Knicks having such a bad record and Denver overachieving to the point where they finish better then the Knicks and move up a spot =better pick? Okay. Who do you foot for by the way?

They get our pick next yr regardless of what either team's record is...It's 2016 that's the major concern and YIKES it looks for us projecting out.

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6/2/2013  12:41 AM
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
Papabear wrote:
tkf wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I don't why know some insist on going back to to the origin of melo to the knicks, doesn't even matter, he's here.. Grunwald was looking like a wizard up until the game 6 of the 2nd round of the 2012/2013 playoffs.

But what these playoffs have done is exposed the hell out the knicks roster and now grunwald isn't looking close to a competent GM..Nobody on the roster played consistent right down to the coach.

The loading up on vets back fired so bad,you wanna put your head down and pray nobody notice...TOO LATE, then playing them ridciculous minutes to capture home court that you gave away in the 1st damn game..

Remember when they kept giving DON Cheney extensions even though he kept losing,and I don't want to put woodson in the same BOAT, but as GM you have to be concern with what you have witness in your coaches playoff history..IT AINT GOOD..

When Melo is talking about needing help, should we think that he's tired of woodson calling his # all the time or is melo calling his own number..


Papabear Says

I think Melo took a beating this season and he does not want to go through that again. Since he won the scoring title and took a beating I think he really wants and needs help. He does not want to get a beating like this season again. I believe that he really wants a title and is willing to do what it takes and even giving up some money to get star or good players.

I feel this too. I remember when Wade asked for help and guess what happened next LeBron and Bosh. I think you can take a pulse of the team by what it's star player needs. I think Melo has had enough of playing out of position. Last night I saw LeBron get frustrated guarding West at PF to the point where he was uncharacteristically playing flustered and committing fouls.

Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create. Also Woody needs to get better a execution offense by that I don't mean executing isolation plays.



wade already had a ring right? the point is, the excuse for carmelo is always needing help
.. LOL.. the problem I think is, he needs to be more help... that is always overlooked...


Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create

vmart, every single team in the league needs and wants that... which is why you don't max your team out with such flawed players... tell carmelo to take a cap friendly deal around the 12-15 mil range, one more suited to his actual overall skill set and maybe they can use the extra money to fill in the gaps...

Papabear Says

Oh please stop it with your crap!! Wade had Shaq! end of story!

ROFL... SHAQ had wade

the problem is carmelo is never there for his teamates.....

Pacers just beat the heat again. No way George does that without Hibbert. Switch out Tyson or any knick other than melo for Hibbert and the Knicks are in the conference finals.

who cares.. paul is playing like a star. carmelo take notes..

Paul didn't cost the pacers young players, draft picks, and 20 mil a year..

therefore he can have Hibbert...

carmelo had chandler DPOY, and JR 6th man of the year...

This is why YOU build TEAMS and not Starphuch, then try to tear down the players you traded....in order to sleep well at night...

And switch out felton for Avery bradley and the celtics beat the knicks..

NO EXCUSES!!

LOL


Jr was a rehab project that worked out for the regular season. Flu was a mess. He might have been the worst player in the playoffs for the Knicks (see crapitude article on posting and toasting). Also, the Knicks traded one first round pick. You can't change the trade to suit your hate. The Knicks are finally winning. Without the trade and coaching change the Knicks are a .500
Team at best.

actually we traded two first.. that swap is just as good as a trade, especially with the way denver has been playing...

and so now you are into telling the future... how do you know what the knicks would have been.. are you assuming they would have made no moves had they not traded for old "wait by the bus" anthony?

Answer this.. what are we now? and are you happy with what we are? sure don't sound like it.. LOL..

Busted gallo, gm leaving, ny having their first round pick equals th e Knicks having such a bad record and Denver overachieving to the point where they finish better then the Knicks and move up a spot =better pick? Okay. Who do you foot for by the way?

They get our pick next yr regardless of what either team's record is...It's 2016 that's the major concern and YIKES it looks for us projecting out.

Knicks are winning at a much higher rate then they were at the time of the trade. Prior to the trade the reports were the Knicks didnt have the picks and young assets to make the trade. The Knicks gave up a lot to get under the cap and didnt have any assets left. That bring said I doubt the nuggets finish better or so much better then the k I is that this is a win for the nuggets. It was a Walsh trade so the chance for the other team involved to win big is high.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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6/2/2013  11:32 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
Papabear wrote:
tkf wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I don't why know some insist on going back to to the origin of melo to the knicks, doesn't even matter, he's here.. Grunwald was looking like a wizard up until the game 6 of the 2nd round of the 2012/2013 playoffs.

But what these playoffs have done is exposed the hell out the knicks roster and now grunwald isn't looking close to a competent GM..Nobody on the roster played consistent right down to the coach.

The loading up on vets back fired so bad,you wanna put your head down and pray nobody notice...TOO LATE, then playing them ridciculous minutes to capture home court that you gave away in the 1st damn game..

Remember when they kept giving DON Cheney extensions even though he kept losing,and I don't want to put woodson in the same BOAT, but as GM you have to be concern with what you have witness in your coaches playoff history..IT AINT GOOD..

When Melo is talking about needing help, should we think that he's tired of woodson calling his # all the time or is melo calling his own number..


Papabear Says

I think Melo took a beating this season and he does not want to go through that again. Since he won the scoring title and took a beating I think he really wants and needs help. He does not want to get a beating like this season again. I believe that he really wants a title and is willing to do what it takes and even giving up some money to get star or good players.

I feel this too. I remember when Wade asked for help and guess what happened next LeBron and Bosh. I think you can take a pulse of the team by what it's star player needs. I think Melo has had enough of playing out of position. Last night I saw LeBron get frustrated guarding West at PF to the point where he was uncharacteristically playing flustered and committing fouls.

Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create. Also Woody needs to get better a execution offense by that I don't mean executing isolation plays.



wade already had a ring right? the point is, the excuse for carmelo is always needing help
.. LOL.. the problem I think is, he needs to be more help... that is always overlooked...


Knicks need a scoring big man and a scoring PF and a star PG or someone who can create

vmart, every single team in the league needs and wants that... which is why you don't max your team out with such flawed players... tell carmelo to take a cap friendly deal around the 12-15 mil range, one more suited to his actual overall skill set and maybe they can use the extra money to fill in the gaps...

Papabear Says

Oh please stop it with your crap!! Wade had Shaq! end of story!

ROFL... SHAQ had wade

the problem is carmelo is never there for his teamates.....

Pacers just beat the heat again. No way George does that without Hibbert. Switch out Tyson or any knick other than melo for Hibbert and the Knicks are in the conference finals.

who cares.. paul is playing like a star. carmelo take notes..

Paul didn't cost the pacers young players, draft picks, and 20 mil a year..

therefore he can have Hibbert...

carmelo had chandler DPOY, and JR 6th man of the year...

This is why YOU build TEAMS and not Starphuch, then try to tear down the players you traded....in order to sleep well at night...

And switch out felton for Avery bradley and the celtics beat the knicks..

NO EXCUSES!!

LOL


Jr was a rehab project that worked out for the regular season. Flu was a mess. He might have been the worst player in the playoffs for the Knicks (see crapitude article on posting and toasting). Also, the Knicks traded one first round pick. You can't change the trade to suit your hate. The Knicks are finally winning. Without the trade and coaching change the Knicks are a .500
Team at best.

actually we traded two first.. that swap is just as good as a trade, especially with the way denver has been playing...

and so now you are into telling the future... how do you know what the knicks would have been.. are you assuming they would have made no moves had they not traded for old "wait by the bus" anthony?

Answer this.. what are we now? and are you happy with what we are? sure don't sound like it.. LOL..

Busted gallo, gm leaving, ny having their first round pick equals th e Knicks having such a bad record and Denver overachieving to the point where they finish better then the Knicks and move up a spot =better pick? Okay. Who do you foot for by the way?

They get our pick next yr regardless of what either team's record is...It's 2016 that's the major concern and YIKES it looks for us projecting out.

Knicks are winning at a much higher rate then they were at the time of the trade. Prior to the trade the reports were the Knicks didnt have the picks and young assets to make the trade. The Knicks gave up a lot to get under the cap and didnt have any assets left. That bring said I doubt the nuggets finish better or so much better then the k I is that this is a win for the nuggets. It was a Walsh trade so the chance for the other team involved to win big is high.

Papabear Says

I think the draft is over rated. We never got much and we sent out draft picks packing before they had a chance to prove themselves. We was ready to trade Shurmp and we till are.

Papabear
melo says he needs help..Grunwald, dolan may have a problem

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