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Scary Version? Paul George May Be Better Than Our Best Player
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5/27/2013  11:55 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.
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5/27/2013  12:00 PM
tkf wrote:
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tkf wrote:
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Jmpasq wrote:A Healthy Melo is the best player on the floor for the 2 teams the problem is the next 5 best players on the floor are Pacers. To think they have a trade chip like Grainger not even playing. The Pacers are a damn good team

A healthy carmelo is the best volume scorer on the floor.. not best player... and I am glad people are seeing how good the pacers are.. I guess me and a few others weren't so crazy agreeing with granger about being the second best team in the east...


So become a pacers fan! Anyone that even watches basketball knows "volume scorer" is as back-handed a compliment as they come. How can you watch a team this way, wallowing in self-pity saying "we suck" "we suck" year after year while you put all of our opponents on a pedestal? How is that enjoyable for you? I don't mean for this to be an attack, I'm actually curious how being a Knicks fan is fun for you in any way. Melo is an extremely flawed player, I understand your distaste for him, but you actually derive joy from watching teams clobber the Knicks, it's very weird.

I am a NBA fan, a fan of basketball.. is that ok with you..... and who is wallowing in self pity? LOL.. I have watched this team suck for so many years.... I thought we were on the right path with walsh.. dolan messed that up, so as a fan I will just wait until this carmelo/JR smith era passes.... I don't enjoy watching them get clobbered, but I do enjoy watching franchises do things the right way, it gives me hope one day...

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This is not what you call a fan. after Melo and JR you just may be waiting for a very long time. Say maybe 40 years of hate by you. I'm sure glad all of the other teams don't think like you. Then 99 percent of the teams will have haters because there can only be one winner. As I watch the Pacers and heat series I see Paul George surrounded be a very great core of players and even if Melo waited and opted out of his contract what we had was not as good as what the pacers have now. TKF what do you do when the Melo era is done and we have a worse team for the next 10 years. Who do you hate then. The hate you have for Melo is real sick. I read some of your statements about how you feel about Melo and it's almost like a sick emotional fan. Strange real strange. You get off by spewing your hate on the man.

what kind fan are you? rofl, you are automatically assuming the knicks will be horrible after his donkey leaves? I have hope, I honestly believe that once we get rid of carmelo and his sidekick JR, the knicks will have a chance to cleanse this mess... that hope tho is tapered because dolan is still our owner.. Yet there is hope.. the fact that you think carmelo is our only hope is just tragic on all levels... good luck with that... I just want a team with players who play both sides of the ball, play hard, play as a team... win or lose, I can roll with that.... i loved the knicks when we sucked before carmelo came here, what makes you think I am in it for just winning? you are absolutely clueless so stop acting like you know me, you don't know a damn thing about me to come to that silly conclusion..


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The last I checked we have 5 players in the starting line up. Your hate for Melo is Personal. Kind of sick. You called the man a donkey. And you talk about cleansing the mess even though we had the best season in 13 years. Man you better check yourself because your hate is personal in a way that it goes beyond basketball. I probably was a knicks fan since before you was born and I never read in all of the threads a person who have such a hate that he would rather see a loosing Knicks team then to deal will Melo. Now that is sick. Really sick. And anyone who read your posts can say it's very very uncommon. I feel sorry for you to have that much rage in your heart for one man.

who cares.. first of all you have no clue when I was born, so that is just a wildly ridiculous statement..

I don't like carmelo and I want him far from this team.. He is fools gold, and he can take his stinky side kick JR smith with him.. they represent everything I hate WITH SOME of todays basketball player..

you have no right to judge who and how I dislike someone.. You love carmelo, that is your business... who cares.... I can root for the knicks however I want to.. and that really is none of your concern bro....


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Like I said I was a Knicks Fan before you were born. Just because you don't like someone what does that do? You have no power. I don't like Tyson Chandler but I don't think of him as some type of foul thing that the team needs to be cleansed of.Thats sick stuff. Your type of hate goes beyond the player and fan thing. And one more thing you are gonna be hating for a damn long time bro because Melo is here for the long haul. So you better get use to it bro.

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5/27/2013  12:07 PM
If the Knicks are strictly being judged by titles with their players, folks might as well stop being a fan.

The Knicks will never win a title ever again because the league doesn't need them to, and the players that folks dream of will NEVER come to the Knicks.

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5/27/2013  1:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/27/2013  1:30 PM
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

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5/27/2013  2:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/27/2013  2:07 PM
Meh, Melo is better than George for now...

This board is overly obsessed with young emerging players.

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5/27/2013  2:13 PM
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knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

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5/27/2013  2:13 PM
I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.
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5/27/2013  2:45 PM
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...

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5/27/2013  2:46 PM
TeamBall wrote:I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.

I think it's easier to put players around PG and be good no need for Max Cats either than building a team around Melo who apparently needs CP3 and Dwight Howard to have a puncher's chance.

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5/27/2013  3:17 PM
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...


it's true regardless.
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5/27/2013  3:18 PM
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TeamBall wrote:I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.

I think it's easier to put players around PG and be good no need for Max Cats either than building a team around Melo who apparently needs CP3 and Dwight Howard to have a puncher's chance.


Very few teams win without great players together, so this point is quite silly.
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5/27/2013  3:31 PM
TeamBall wrote:I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.

Thats what I said Melo was the best player on the court but the Next 5 are Pacers
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5/27/2013  3:33 PM
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TeamBall wrote:I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.

Thats what I said Melo was the best player on the court but the Next 5 are Pacers

He put up a lot of points but he didn't do anything you'd expect the best player to do
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5/27/2013  4:19 PM
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TeamBall wrote:I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.

Thats what I said Melo was the best player on the court but the Next 5 are Pacers

He put up a lot of points but he didn't do anything you'd expect the best player to do

He did lead the team in rebounds. Which is interesting because most of his playoff career his rebounding goes up from the regular season.

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TeamBall wrote:I think its more important that the team around George is better than the team around Melo. Thats a big problem.

Thats what I said Melo was the best player on the court but the Next 5 are Pacers

He put up a lot of points but he didn't do anything you'd expect the best player to do

He did lead the team in rebounds. Which is interesting because most of his playoff career his rebounding goes up from the regular season.


He was one of our least bad rebounders but that still doesn't qualify as something you expect the best player on the court to do. You can say he was playing out of position but the man he was guarding was only 1" taller.
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5/27/2013  5:51 PM
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...


it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....

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5/27/2013  6:06 PM
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...


it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....


Actually those awards means nada.
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5/27/2013  6:15 PM
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...


it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....


Actually those awards means nada.

Maybe you could be on to something here....


The 54 regular season wins meant nada

Melo's scoring title meant nada

J.R. Smith 6th MOY meant nada

Jason Kidd's SMOY meant nada

Getting past the 1st round only to lose to PG and the Pacers meant nada


Therefore Season=Failure like Shumpert said...

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5/27/2013  6:45 PM
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...


it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....


Actually those awards means nada.

Maybe you could be on to something here....


The 54 regular season wins meant nada

Melo's scoring title meant nada

J.R. Smith 6th MOY meant nada

Jason Kidd's SMOY meant nada

Getting past the 1st round only to lose to PG and the Pacers meant nada


Therefore Season=Failure like Shumpert said...

Shump is a pretty smart dude.

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5/27/2013  7:03 PM
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
3G4G wrote:
knickscity wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.


Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.


Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...


it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....


Actually those awards means nada.

Maybe you could be on to something here....


The 54 regular season wins meant nada

Melo's scoring title meant nada

J.R. Smith 6th MOY meant nada

Jason Kidd's SMOY meant nada

Getting past the 1st round only to lose to PG and the Pacers meant nada


Therefore Season=Failure like Shumpert said...


Papabear Says

I asume you are speaking for yourself because you'er surely not speaking for me. 13 years of hell and you mean to tell me this season meant nothing? Hey that's your problem. You deal with that but don't speak for this board.

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