Melo got worked up and forced some bad shots. But that could be as much about the Celts running picks so Melo was guarding KG, a mismatch and ultraphysical play. I respect Melo for staying tough and standing his ground. Against those post moves.

The Celts also were tougher on the perimieter. The Knicks had no answer for Avery Bradley's ball hawking. The disparity between Felton and Prigioni is apparent. And, the only thing that could stop Pierce were the fouls.

What I take from this is that the Knicks need to get more physical. That's probably why they are talking about K-Mart. I'd think that once ShumpShump is back, they will probably waive White for Kmart.

dk7th wrote:"gave denver the heads up" is half an argument.

what melo did harmed the knicks. the essence of unethical behavior is that it does harm to others. ethics and morals differ in that morality is related to ones values, which may coincide with harming others or it may not. i am almost certain you disagree with that opinion so we will have to agree to disagree.

garnett did something that can be considered immoral but in fact harmed nothing and noone save melo's feelings. of that i believe we can agree. or not.

i suspect that melo's wife lala was a major factor in impelling carmelo to not honor his contract with denver. ironic. now it looks as though karma may be insinuating itself, as it usually does, into ones life.

sure i have been critical of melo's game and i have also given praise when he has done something praiseworthy. too bad you missed that entire half of my analysis of his season thus far. as to my wishing failure on any knick that's an assumption that has no weight at all since i want the knicks to win. can you provide evidence that i want the knicks to lose? if not then i suggest you tone down the personal insults and attacks. there is no need for that kind of behavior.

In a free market framework, Melo was going to "harm" someone --- either the Nuggets or knicks by either leaving the nuggets as a free agent (didnt lebron become a pariah for this) or having the knicks pony up talent to acquire him. Thats lending far more credence to your ridiculous assertion than I should in the first place, given that this is a free market, not slavery, where entities operate on their own volition in order to maximize personal utility. How on earth can Melo be unethical, when he was simply operating within the business confines of the NBA, not to mention that, if anything, he was helping his former employer out? Pathetic take.

Im not even going to get into what you said next... this very weird and creepy tangent about Melo and his wife, somehow trying to excuse whatever KG may have said about his wife, because of some crazy hang up you have over the Den/knicks trade. You come across as extremely disturbed, given the reality free-conclusions you draw. You're obsessed with darkening every and anything Melo. I dont know why you have been tolerated around here for so long.

dk7th wrote:

sebstar wrote:

dk7th wrote:"gave denver the heads up" is half an argument.

what melo did harmed the knicks. the essence of unethical behavior is that it does harm to others. ethics and morals differ in that morality is related to ones values, which may coincide with harming others or it may not. i am almost certain you disagree with that opinion so we will have to agree to disagree.

garnett did something that can be considered immoral but in fact harmed nothing and noone save melo's feelings. of that i believe we can agree. or not.

i suspect that melo's wife lala was a major factor in impelling carmelo to not honor his contract with denver. ironic. now it looks as though karma may be insinuating itself, as it usually does, into ones life.

sure i have been critical of melo's game and i have also given praise when he has done something praiseworthy. too bad you missed that entire half of my analysis of his season thus far. as to my wishing failure on any knick that's an assumption that has no weight at all since i want the knicks to win. can you provide evidence that i want the knicks to lose? if not then i suggest you tone down the personal insults and attacks. there is no need for that kind of behavior.

What??? Are you on meds bro? What the hell is this?

In a free market framework, Melo was going to "harm" someone --- either the Nuggets or knicks by either leaving the nuggets as a free agent (didnt lebron become a pariah for this) or having the knicks pony up talent to acquire him. Thats lending far more credence to your ridiculous assertion than I should in the first place, given that this is a free market, not slavery, where entities operate on their own volition in order to maximize personal utility. How on earth can Melo be unethical, when he was simply operating within the business confines of the NBA, not to mention that, if anything, he was helping his former employer out? Pathetic take.

Im not even going to get into what you said next... this very weird and creepy tangent about Melo and his wife, somehow trying to excuse whatever KG may have said about his wife, because of some crazy hang up you have over the Den/knicks trade. You come across as extremely disturbed, given the reality free-conclusions you draw. You're obsessed with darkening every and anything Melo. I dont know why you have been tolerated around here for so long.

you remind me an awful lot of a number of posters on the realgm knick forum. one guy in particular named moocow especially. he was a moderator or a global mod and enjoyed throwing his weight around with impunity. i was not a fan. i was eventually banned from there but decided to keep the same username as i have nothing to hide and have nothing to be ashamed of, contrary to your regrettable and repeated attempts at character assassination.

i suggest you commiserate with moocow and godshamgod and the other fine fellows on realgm. you'd fit right in.

meantime i doubt very much that i will suffer a similar fate here as i have no intention of hurling personal insults at other posters or make bullying posts.

as to the actual content of your post: an employee should honor his contract. maybe you disagree with that idea. multimillionaires qua employees on contracts are not different in kind but in degree. lebron honored his contract and then decided to leave, harming the team he left behind but helping the team he was heading to. that was unfortunate but not unethical.

melo didn't do that. it's illogical to harm the team you are going to just as it is to not honor your contract. in essence he harmed two parties. and of course the only thing that trumps logic is selfishness. as to operating within the confines of the nba, your statement sounds very similar to mitt romney's explanation of paying 14% in taxes. not a good look. but of course neither romney nor melo can be accused of being in touch with the real world. in essence your take on matters is backwards in my opinion.

you see how i responded without any personal attacks and insults?

You are a DICK! See? I couldn't do it

dk7th wrote:
you remind me an awful lot of a number of posters on the realgm knick forum. one guy in particular named moocow especially. he was a moderator or a global mod and enjoyed throwing his weight around with impunity. i was not a fan. i was eventually banned from there but decided to keep the same username as i have nothing to hide and have nothing to be ashamed of, contrary to your regrettable and repeated attempts at character assassination.

i suggest you commiserate with moocow and godshamgod and the other fine fellows on realgm. you'd fit right in.

meantime i doubt very much that i will suffer a similar fate here as i have no intention of hurling personal insults at other posters or make bullying posts.

as to the actual content of your post: an employee should honor his contract. maybe you disagree with that idea. multimillionaires qua employees on contracts are not different in kind but in degree. lebron honored his contract and then decided to leave, harming the team he left behind but helping the team he was heading to. that was unfortunate but not unethical.

melo didn't do that. it's illogical to harm the team you are going to just as it is to not honor your contract. in essence he harmed two parties. and of course the only thing that trumps logic is selfishness. as to operating within the confines of the nba, your statement sounds very similar to mitt romney's explanation of paying 14% in taxes. not a good look. but of course neither romney nor melo can be accused of being in touch with the real world. in essence your take on matters is backwards in my opinion.

you see how i responded without any personal attacks and insults?

You personally attack Melo and his character, and even include his wife in that invective --- so how you going to turn around and whine now when its boomeranged back at you? Im not interested in that real gm story you are martyring yourself over, but perhaps you might want to take a step back and ask yourself why you are so unpopular on the message boards you frequent.

Once again, your conclusions are completely disconnected from truth. Melo was honoring his deal --- he simply informed the Nuggets of his plans once the contract was up, and in the environment of the NBA, trades are a natural part of day-to-day operations. What are you trying to argue? Funny you bring up Romney (im shocked you are left in political orientation), because your posts read like a Fox News board. Instead of Obama being painted as the anti-christ, its Melo whom you obsessively attack and ridicule with twisted logic. Its terribly annoying to read on a Knick fan page --- if that bothers you, so what.

NYDiva wrote:

We've only just met but you've now become my favorite poster. AMEN TO ALL OF THIS!

Thanks for the compliment! Nice to meet you Diva

And what up playa? Its been a minute with ya.

Swishfm3 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:I would love to play ANY sport against some of the posters on this site....would enjoy testing that "mental" toughness you all seem to possess..

I would dunk on your head

I doubt it but I guess we will never know...unless you stay in the Norfolk, Va area

Always the annual bball get together in NY. Hope to make the next one if Im healthy enough. Gotta have at least one shoulder surgery. Would be fun.

Nalod wrote:

sebstar wrote:

Nalod wrote:Garnett is a awful person. Melo knows this. He is going to get under the skin no doubt.

Is KG a sociapath winner type like Jordan? We all know this.

SO does Melo.

either tune it out or lose it is the only choice. Perhaps melo was trying his hardest to maintain and couldn't, then he needs to leave the game.

Am I asking too much for a man who chose this public life and all the spoils that go with to be immune from being human? Of course not. Do I know whats going on with him and being asked to sympathize? I have no clue as to his problem. I don't know if its that public or not. He cheat on her, she on him? He hit her, she hit him? He too focused on his career, her on hers? they compatable besides looking good together? How the hell do I know.

If he can't do his job then he needs to sit down.

KG is an awful man whose will to win is notorious. Personally I can't stand him but I respect his career.

Melo has been playing great this season and perhaps had this on his mind for some time. He leads the league in Techs.

Sure he can have a bad game, but if the melting becomes a problem we are done.

He is in the "conversation", then he is in the spotlight.

Gets hot under those lights. A lot of pressure.

Who put him there? The media? TKF? Bonn? Or did he?

Maybe their marriage was not great and a reason why they left Denver, maybe she wanted to be in NY?

Old saying, "You allways take the weather with you where ever you go".

Do I feel bad for Melo if he got problems? Yeah.

Can't perform the job, sit down.

You're rambling here bro, so lets try to get to the heart of this and satisfy your criticism. Its looks like you're trying to hold Melo to an impossible standard, one that few players of significance have lived up to, and thats losing one's cool in the heat of battle.

To add context, if this were game 7 then you would have a point --- he put himself above the team and lost it, but this is a meaningless game. If anything KG miscalculated, because he's riled up a great player, a franchise, and a city and his only consolation is a Jan. win. He may have won this small battle, but we'll see who wins the way, because as it stands the Knicks are better, and fighting for a one seed. KG may have created a 'last laugh; hardest" situation.

I did not start a Melo thread on this subject ( there are a few) and really never crossed my mind to do so. IN the face of other opininon I formed mine and stated it. I don't like dudes when they take Tech's to sooth their own cause. In fact, its a reason IM not a big "sheed" fan as his antics were quite selfish in my opoinion. Im a bit amazed how many guys welcomed him with open arms.

Just cuz you put on a knick uni don't make every thing cool but for most its that way. I was not a melo fan prior to his joining but I said I'd give it a shot. I did not like his smirking idiot behavior in the Boston series (I think he lost the ball, reached up grabbed a players leg and laughted) but we were depleted and did not hold him accountable for the teams problem. Or last year except his admission he did not play hard at times.

For the most part I like the guy and his play this year has gone along way to earning my respect. I don't like the techs he has been picking up and the team does get a bit diva like at times. No biggy.

Garnett is a piece of Shyt but I stand by my comment. Don't mean I hate the guy. He pulls that crap in the playoffs for any reason it will not be cool.

If Melo the person is hurting, im empathetic. Personal problems are not part of the game.

I understand what you're getting at and I think ideally, the bolded part would be true for anyone in any profession. However, the reality is that for many of us, personal lives can add stress to our professional lives and vice versa. We saw this with Amar'e who said his head wasn't in the game after his brother died. I wish, like you said, he would be able to compartmentalize that pain and be effective at his job but he was not...for most of the season following that. Personal problems on the court are only a bad thing when they negatively affect the game, on the other hand sometimes, personal problems can actually fuel us to perform better or with greater passion. Everyone reacts differently, but hopefully this is a learning experience and Melo can use this type of adversity to his advantage in the future. You said in an earlier post that you don't care about the reaction so long as we win or doesn't effect how the game is played. I would agree with that but add that personal problems, when channeled properly, can be used as motivation and can positively effect the game.

MinsHeartsReezy wrote:

misterearl wrote:This Just In

Carmelo suspended one game for confronting Garnett after the game

And of course KG was not disciplined. Surprise surprise...

Bonn1997 wrote:

MinsHeartsReezy wrote:

misterearl wrote:This Just In

Carmelo suspended one game for confronting Garnett after the game

And of course KG was not disciplined. Surprise surprise...

My guess is KG did say what was reported and he's a dickhead. But you can't suspend a player just because of what the opposing team says he said. I think you'd need either the refs or the cameras to corroborate it.

Yea, I know...I predicted exactly this would happen earlier in one of these threads, because like you said there's really no way to hold KG accountable for it. And at the end of the day, regardless of how inappropriate KG comments were, no one was physically threatened by them.