Knixkik wrote:

dimicech wrote:How about Seth Curry? I know hes not steph but i like his game better than Wolters from what i can see. and hes a very efficient offensive player 40% 3pt 47-48% FG

Wolters is a pure PG, Curry is not. Also Wolters is equally efficent on offense.

I agree

game doesn't really matter as much as you'd think unless the prospect is specifically sized for his position at the pro level.

example: Beasley was a stud and maybe a better college player than Derrick Rose, but Rose was playing the point at a high level while Beasley was just using his size advantage when no one knew what position he'd play as a pro

dimicech wrote:How about Seth Curry? I know hes not steph but i like his game better than Wolters from what i can see. and hes a very efficient offensive player 40% 3pt 47-48% FG

I watched Shabazz Napier all year and he is better than Curry as a PG--hes not likely even coming out. Curry is a specialty player--he can play but hes no PG and we are likely to lose both Prigioni and Kidd. Then you say who is the BPA or is the best available PG close enough in talent to warrant a pick. Of course if we have a BPA at any position--Im sure they will go there--but we may get caught with our pants down at PG. I dont think Curry is that guy. Shane Larkin is he coming out to go 24? I doubt it--if he comes out he'll be a lottery pick. Our honest pool would be something like Pierre Jackson Wolters Green(who would have to make the transition but I think he can)maybe Carson if he comes out. I think out of this group--to me its a no brianer--I would take Wolters--hes smart good defensively long a really really good ballhandler knows how to make the right pass is adept at dribble drive has a mean in between game and can hit the open three. Wolters would be like a Kirk Heinrich for us but better offensively. He can play in the NBA now--there is no waiting he can play back up PG right now. Can anyone think of a PG who can get you 5-6 rebounds 2 steals score points in a variety of ways protect the ball and play within a team concept as a team player? Were lucky he did not play well against Michigan--if he goes 4-6 from three and gets a few foul calls--then he is 24-6-5. He just played poorly but his body of work is much greater than a Curry--if Wolters played for Duke hes be a lottery pick right now. He d average 10+ assits. To me he is a good passer ballhandler leader first and at 6-4 thats pretty good to grab at 24.

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

dimicech wrote:How about Seth Curry? I know hes not steph but i like his game better than Wolters from what i can see. and hes a very efficient offensive player 40% 3pt 47-48% FG

I watched Shabazz Napier all year and he is better than Curry as a PG--hes not likely even coming out. Curry is a specialty player--he can play but hes no PG and we are likely to lose both Prigioni and Kidd. Then you say who is the BPA or is the best available PG close enough in talent to warrant a pick. Of course if we have a BPA at any position--Im sure they will go there--but we may get caught with our pants down at PG. I dont think Curry is that guy. Shane Larkin is he coming out to go 24? I doubt it--if he comes out he'll be a lottery pick. Our honest pool would be something like Pierre Jackson Wolters Green(who would have to make the transition but I think he can)maybe Carson if he comes out. I think out of this group--to me its a no brianer--I would take Wolters--hes smart good defensively long a really really good ballhandler knows how to make the right pass is adept at dribble drive has a mean in between game and can hit the open three. Wolters would be like a Kirk Heinrich for us but better offensively. He can play in the NBA now--there is no waiting he can play back up PG right now. Can anyone think of a PG who can get you 5-6 rebounds 2 steals score points in a variety of ways protect the ball and play within a team concept as a team player? Were lucky he did not play well against Michigan--if he goes 4-6 from three and gets a few foul calls--then he is 24-6-5. He just played poorly but his body of work is much greater than a Curry--if Wolters played for Duke hes be a lottery pick right now. He d average 10+ assits. To me he is a good passer ballhandler leader first and at 6-4 thats pretty good to grab at 24.

You are absolutely right, Wolters is a high first round pick if playing in a big program. He would be killing at Duke, probably averaging 20/8/5. Why he's considered a 2nd round pick still is unreal, but thats fine for us. We should definitely take him with our pick. I'm for either him or Kabongo. Both could be backup PGs for 1-2 years and be starting soon enough.

Thats right. At Duke the starters get big minutes and its almost impossible to double and triple team guards. If you replaced Quinn Cook with Wolters--hed be a lottery pick.

callmened wrote:the lack of speed concerns me with wolters. i think hes an nba player but not a good fit for this team. we lack perimeter speed to guard PGs. thats what we need. id vote for napier,jackson(even though i havent watched him as much as you) & lastly id like kabango. youre right about larkin i would love to have him but if hes not a lottery pick hell stay in school

I think when they have those testing abilities--you will find out that not only is he a legit 6-4 with long arms--but hell come in a little over 200 pounds and score well on speed agility and vertical. Hes a better athlete than has been purported.

Uptown wrote:Michael Carter Williams has excellent size, athleticism, and court vision for a pg. he's a consistant jumper away from being the top prospect at the point. I would definitely take a shot at him.

MCW was very inconsistent this year(he shot less than .40) and seems to dissapear in games. In the tourney both Trey Burke and Williams have come up big and just like the last 20 seconds in a round of fighting--the last few games count the most. He looked just like what you said--a jump shot away from being a very very high pick---and if he follows up what he s doing--he might just be anyway. You havent seen many PGs in recent years who resemble Williams. This is a weird draft--a guy like this could go as high as top 5 or he could drop into the 20s. Hes a nice defender think about that 6-6 with long arms at the top of the key.