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Jeremy Lin is a true PG and a free agent (Knicks get him!)
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12/27/2011  4:24 PM
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KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
misterearl wrote:The Answer Worked At A Laundromat When He Attended Cornell

Q. Panos - I got my Masters at a pretty damn good school and get my ass handed to me by high school drop outs every time I step on the playground.

A. Perhaps you need to work on your defensive stance and footwork. Zumba classes are forming now. I got my masters at a pretty good school and deal up those high school dropouts every chance I get.

Q. Panos - Who gives a rats ass that he went to Harvard?

A. No one, really. It's cited more a fun fact in the same manner Buffalo Bills QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, because we know ALL Ivy League types are soft, right?

Q. Panos - Are you guys flippin' for real?

A. Absolutely. We have a Jeremy Lin fan club and everything. We are juiced.

+1 Misterearl.
My guess is that it will take Panos some time before he decides to apply for membership.
Like I said, if you can't feel some joy for this gifted kid signing a contract to play
on the greatest stage of his life, you need to check your pulse.


You're misrepresenting me KBC. I didn't say I didn't like the kid. I'm excited to have a pass-first PG, finally. But I don't care that he went to Harvard, and not LSU or UConn.

I respect your opinion, Panos....and I'm glad that you see the potential in this signing.
All we're saying is that a high BB IQ is an added benefit with all other things being equal.
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12/27/2011  4:49 PM
This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.
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12/27/2011  4:52 PM
Love

Lin will join the Knicks for their morning shootaround in San Francisco on Wednesday.

The Warriors waived Lin on Dec. 9 to clear salary-cap room. He spent two weeks with the Houston Rockets before being cut this past weekend (to make room for Sam Dalembert).

D’Antoni said... “He’s very quick. He defends pretty well, but he can really get in the lane and distribute the basketball. We haven’t seen him play in a couple years, but when we worked him out we thought we liked him.”

You had me at, "really get in the lane and distribute the basketball."

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12/27/2011  4:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2011  4:56 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Being among the intelligent elite is not a curse.

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12/27/2011  4:56 PM
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Simply not true.

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12/27/2011  4:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2011  5:00 PM
Not sure that Lin will get any burn tomorrow night, but if/when he does,
it'll be great hearing the whole Oracle arena pulling for him
every time that he touches the ball!
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12/27/2011  5:00 PM
Lin graduating from Harvard just tells me he knows how to compete at a high level in a competitive environment. He doesn't make the league, dude has options, so good for him. But yea, Ivy League ain't exactly the conference to beat in Div I ball.
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12/27/2011  5:07 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Simply not true.

“He went to Harvard, so he may be the smartest guy we have,” D’Antoni said

Of course, the Harvard stereotype is a bit of a joke. It is also reality, based on what is required for consideration. There are all shades of college students on every campus. For better or worse, the Harvard reputation is earned over decades of famous alumni, hype and ratings. Assuming all Harvard students are academically gifted is the same as assuming that a player from Detroit or Chicago has above average athleticism. Does that assume any player of superior physical gifts only comes from an urban setting?

You tell me.

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12/27/2011  5:09 PM
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Simply not true.

“He went to Harvard, so he may be the smartest guy we have,” D’Antoni said

Of course, the Harvard stereotype is a bit of a joke. It is also reality, based on what is required for consideration. There are all shades of college students on every campus. For better or worse, the Harvard reputation is earned over decades of famous alumni, hype and ratings. Assuming all Harvard students are academically gifted is the same as assuming that a player from Detroit or Chicago has above average athleticism. Does that assume any player of superior physical gifts only comes from an urban setting?

You tell me.

So we agree.

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12/27/2011  5:10 PM
It's better to have intelligent players on your team, so it's not like it's a detriment for a PG. I think it could be a small plus if Lin can absorb and execute MDA's system faster than a guard that simply relies on pure physical talent as opposed to thinking the game as the better PG's tend to do.

More important than is IQ is his natural Skills with the ball. I like that he's a penetrating guard who can get into the teeth of the defense on the regular. He seems to have serious handle and is more athletic than he looks. I just want to see him run PnR!

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12/27/2011  5:13 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Simply not true.

“He went to Harvard, so he may be the smartest guy we have,” D’Antoni said

Of course, the Harvard stereotype is a bit of a joke. It is also reality, based on what is required for consideration. There are all shades of college students on every campus. For better or worse, the Harvard reputation is earned over decades of famous alumni, hype and ratings. Assuming all Harvard students are academically gifted is the same as assuming that a player from Detroit or Chicago has above average athleticism. Does that assume any player of superior physical gifts only comes from an urban setting?

You tell me.

So we agree.

apparently you didn't bother to apply to Harvard, right?

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12/27/2011  5:20 PM
I like his game..will he get a fair shake that's the only question. There are so many players in the league that never get a fair chance due to having to play other less motivated higher salaried players. The Business side of the NBA has ruined many careers.
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12/27/2011  5:37 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:I like his game..will he get a fair shake that's the only question. There are so many players in the league that never get a fair chance due to having to play other less motivated higher salaried players. The Business side of the NBA has ruined many careers.

“If somebody wakes up with a cold, (Lin) is playing a lot,” D’Antoni said. “If not, we’ll see.”

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12/27/2011  5:38 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:I like his game..will he get a fair shake that's the only question. There are so many players in the league that never get a fair chance due to having to play other less motivated higher salaried players. The Business side of the NBA has ruined many careers.

If the kid can run the PnR, dribble penetrate into the line and dish the rock at the right instant, play average defense (Tyson's got your back), find the open man, make the smart pass,
be a good teammate, and hit an occasional three when needed.......he'll have a future on an team.

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12/27/2011  5:39 PM
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Being among the intelligent elite is not a curse.

Sorry, but there are two mistakes with your argument. Not everyone who goes to Harvard, or any other school, has to be smart; there are legacy kids too. Also, no one from Harvard is necessarily smarter than someone who didn't go. There are plenty of brilliant people that have gone to lesser colleges or haven't gone to school at all.

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12/27/2011  5:40 PM
misterearl wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:I like his game..will he get a fair shake that's the only question. There are so many players in the league that never get a fair chance due to having to play other less motivated higher salaried players. The Business side of the NBA has ruined many careers.

“If somebody wakes up with a cold, (Lin) is playing a lot,” D’Antoni said. “If not, we’ll see.”

A big part of me wants Bibby to wake up with the sniffles tomorrow morning.

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12/27/2011  5:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2011  5:51 PM
VCoug wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Being among the intelligent elite is not a curse.

Sorry, but there are two mistakes with your argument. Not everyone who goes to Harvard, or any other school, has to be smart; there are legacy kids too. Also, no one from Harvard is necessarily smarter than someone who didn't go. There are plenty of brilliant people that have gone to lesser colleges or haven't gone to school at all.

VCoug - of course there are brilliant people from all colleges, or who are self-taught. The Harvard reputation is not fabricated, it is earned. If Jeremy Lin gets the benefit of being associated with intelligence, cool. Perhaps that will afford him an extra minute in a game, as opposed to a quick hook, after he makes a mistake.

Chances are, if Lin graduated from Harvard, he is not struggling with comprehension skills when D'Antoni whips out the dry erase board during a timeout. He may even pick up offensive concepts fast enough to run a play without wasting the shot clock... and I'm cool with that.

Nate Robinson on this roster? Earl Boykins? Gilbert Arenas? No thank you.

Welcome Jeremy Lin.

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12/27/2011  5:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2011  7:23 PM
VCoug wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is an error where we assume Harvard means high intelligence. While schools like Harvard have more than the normal share of very bright students, it is certainly true that there are also many average and even below average students among them.

Wrong. An average student at Harvard is eating your SAT score for breakfast. A below average student at Harvard is able to enroll at any college he or she wants.

get real.

Being among the intelligent elite is not a curse.

Sorry, but there are two mistakes with your argument. Not everyone who goes to Harvard, or any other school, has to be smart; there are legacy kids too. Also, no one from Harvard is necessarily smarter than someone who didn't go. There are plenty of brilliant people that have gone to lesser colleges or haven't gone to school at all.

I'll add this ..Harvard lowers the standards in the case of athletes-

Yet the group of six recruits expected to join the team next season is rated among the nation’s 25 best. This is partly because Harvard Coach Tommy Amaker, who starred at Duke and coached in the Big East and Big Ten conferences, has set his sights on top-flight recruits. It is also because Harvard is willing to consider players with a lower academic standing than previous staff members said they were allowed to. Harvard has also adopted aggressive recruiting tactics that skirt or, in some cases, may even violate National Collegiate Athletic Association rules.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/sports/ncaabasketball/02harvard.html

So not everyone that graduates Harvard has a 180+ IQ and as I have witnessed throughout the last 50+ years...common sense means as much in the end. Still I am excited to see Lin get a cup of coffee. If he can be a factor maybe Bibby can join Baron on the sidelines coaching the young'uns.

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12/27/2011  6:12 PM
Why are we confusing the issue here? The kid seems to have a good BB IQ and that is what's most important. Guys that get by on pure athletic ability and instincts have failed here and we need a guard that can actually THINK and see the play ahead. Some players can't process that kind of information. It's what separates QB's in the NFL. If you can't read a defense fast enough you won't succeed no matter what your raw athletic ability is. Being "smart" can help overcome a lack of physical ability. It just so happens Lin has both good physical and mental ability. that's a good combo when playing for MDA. I think if the kid gets enough time he can help us. Don't know if he'll get that time or not.
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12/27/2011  6:24 PM
nixluva wrote:Why are we confusing the issue here? The kid seems to have a good BB IQ and that is what's most important. Guys that get by on pure athletic ability and instincts have failed here and we need a guard that can actually THINK and see the play ahead. Some players can't process that kind of information. It's what separates QB's in the NFL. If you can't read a defense fast enough you won't succeed no matter what your raw athletic ability is. Being "smart" can help overcome a lack of physical ability. It just so happens Lin has both good physical and mental ability. that's a good combo when playing for MDA. I think if the kid gets enough time he can help us. Don't know if he'll get that time or not.

If you can read ahead on defense...you can read ahead on offense. Some get it faster than others. True it's like chess being able to think moves ahead. It is not a skill that cannot be taught though obviously some get it faster than others.

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