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jimimou
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4/21/2011  10:16 AM
martin wrote:
jimimou wrote:they will be swept. maybe win one mercy game in denver, but that's even a far stretch IMHO

They could have taken game 1. I see 2 hard fought battles in Denver.

we cld have taken games 1 and 2, but we didnt either. i have no problem with hard fought games and tight losses like we had in the first two games. but, denver aint us and in game 2, they seemed like a beaten team, especially towards the end. with all the talk about melo this or melo that, without him, they are being exposed in the sense that they dont have a go to guy they can rely on. i dont think that bodes well for them going back to denver. especially if they lose game 3.

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4/21/2011  10:29 AM
0-2 is 0-2.

I think the Thunder is a hell of team and they are build for the playoffs.

Im not going down the road about Denver failing in the first two games gonna some how make me feel better about us being down 0-2 in our series.

We might have some "Moral" victory that as fans we can take away.

The THunder are a serious team on the rise. Boston is a serious team on the decline.

But Just cuz Denver misses Melo don't make me feel better about being 0-2.

Denver had a nice feel good story going the last 30 games and im sure expectations were high.

Same in NY but we have been hot and cold.

Nalod happy the team has premium players but concerned about depth and we are being "found wanting" in that area for sure this series" Our guys are breaking down.

If Melo is about the future then Im not too concerned with any result in the playoffs going forward. Team is playing hard against a good boston team.

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4/21/2011  10:59 AM
George Karl.....taking over the COACH BY FEEL MAN OF THE YEAR?
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4/21/2011  11:15 AM
Chandler, Felton, and Gallo are playing just like they did in NY. If you cant up up for a playoff game then what else can you say.

Wilson Chandler and Gallinari combined for 11 points.

I guess we should blame Lawson for not getting the ball........

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4/21/2011  12:32 PM
They need a super star and we need more depth..both cancel each other out..like I said before the trade..its almast a even swap niether team became much better after the trade
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4/21/2011  1:14 PM
knicks1248 wrote:They need a super star and we need more depth..both cancel each other out..like I said before the trade..its almast a even swap niether team became much better after the trade

LOL, so getting role players is as easy as getting a superstar?

Denver got the raw end of that deal.

Gallo and Chandler pulled a Mo Williams and choked BADLY. I want guys to perform when the heat is on. We won that deal by a wide margin.

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4/21/2011  1:23 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:They need a super star and we need more depth..both cancel each other out..like I said before the trade..its almast a even swap niether team became much better after the trade

LOL, so getting role players is as easy as getting a superstar?

Denver got the raw end of that deal.

Gallo and Chandler pulled a Mo Williams and choked BADLY. I want guys to perform when the heat is on. We won that deal by a wide margin.

I'd still take back Chandler to play SG, or Felton, in a heartbeat if it were possible.
I'm dying to see what magic Walsh can pull out of his hat this summer. He can really solidify his legacy with some more savvy moves in the offseason to put us into the next level.

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4/21/2011  2:03 PM
Panos wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:They need a super star and we need more depth..both cancel each other out..like I said before the trade..its almast a even swap niether team became much better after the trade

LOL, so getting role players is as easy as getting a superstar?

Denver got the raw end of that deal.

Gallo and Chandler pulled a Mo Williams and choked BADLY. I want guys to perform when the heat is on. We won that deal by a wide margin.

I'd still take back Chandler to play SG, or Felton, in a heartbeat if it were possible.
I'm dying to see what magic Walsh can pull out of his hat this summer. He can really solidify his legacy with some more savvy moves in the offseason to put us into the next level.

we need Walsh for 2 years min. Gotta figure out what to do with the PG situation (Billups, draft, TD) and the bigs problems. And then the next question is whether or not you keep cap space for 2012 for Deron, CP3, Dwight.

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4/21/2011  3:21 PM
Juice wrote:George Karl.....taking over the COACH BY FEEL MAN OF THE YEAR?

LOL at Karl saying its 'easy to give it to the start player in crunch time.' No sh!!t. I guess Phil Jackson easied his way to being th ebest coach in the history of the sport. Some coaches need to stop out-smarting themselves.

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4/21/2011  4:07 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:They need a super star and we need more depth..both cancel each other out..like I said before the trade..its almast a even swap niether team became much better after the trade

LOL, so getting role players is as easy as getting a superstar?

Denver got the raw end of that deal.

Gallo and Chandler pulled a Mo Williams and choked BADLY. I want guys to perform when the heat is on. We won that deal by a wide margin.

Quality role players that fit a system isn't exactly a dime a dozen thing..

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4/21/2011  4:15 PM
martin wrote:
Panos wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:They need a super star and we need more depth..both cancel each other out..like I said before the trade..its almast a even swap niether team became much better after the trade

LOL, so getting role players is as easy as getting a superstar?

Denver got the raw end of that deal.

Gallo and Chandler pulled a Mo Williams and choked BADLY. I want guys to perform when the heat is on. We won that deal by a wide margin.

I'd still take back Chandler to play SG, or Felton, in a heartbeat if it were possible.
I'm dying to see what magic Walsh can pull out of his hat this summer. He can really solidify his legacy with some more savvy moves in the offseason to put us into the next level.

we need Walsh for 2 years min. Gotta figure out what to do with the PG situation (Billups, draft, TD) and the bigs problems. And then the next question is whether or not you keep cap space for 2012 for Deron, CP3, Dwight.

agreed. walsh leaves and i feel we can easily take steps backwards very quickly. he's the linch pinthat holds all of this together for the future i believe. i just hope dolan is smart enough to realize this.

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4/21/2011  8:02 PM
GustavBahler wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A2KIRyMgGrBNN2oAZga8vLYF?slug=mc-spears_nuggets_lose_carmelo_anthony_trail_series_042111

Nuggets miss scoring punch ‘Melo once provided

OKLAHOMA CITY – The Denver Nuggets went home winless Wednesday night after two playoff games against the Oklahoma City Thunder. The Nuggets’ lone victory against the Thunder in five total meetings this season was on Jan. 19, when Carmelo Anthony(notes) scored a game-high 35 points, his only appearance in the season series.

After the Nuggets were forced to trade Anthony to the New York Knicks, a strong perception grew that they could be more successful without Anthony as Denver went 18-7 without its star. But by the looks of Denver’s pair of postseason losses, the key things needed for victory is what Anthony could’ve provided – something missing from the current roster.


“‘Melo is a terrific scorer,” said Thunder coach Scott Brooks, a former Nuggets assistant. “He scores like Kevin [Durant]. He can score on the wing, up at the top, the post, the 3-point line, coast to coast. …

“‘Melo beats a lot of guys. I coached him three years. He has the ability to make plays for everybody.”

Said one NBA head coach: “On the road and in the playoffs more than ever, you need a guy that can draw double teams and go to the free-throw line.”

The Nuggets missed that guy on Wednesday night as the Thunder blitzed them early and never looked back in a 106-89 victory. Denver was in desperate need of scoring as it fell behind 31-15 at the end of the first quarter. Guard Ty Lawson(notes) had a team-high 20 points and three more scored at least 15 as the Nuggets trailed by as many as 26 and shot 39.1 percent from the field.

“We got a team that is so wide open now,” forward Al Harrington(notes) said. “When ‘Melo was here, you knew where the ball was going to go to and he took most of the shots. He was going to get our team going. But now that he’s gone, we really don’t know who it’s going to be any given night. Coach [George Karl] just coaches off of feel and who’s hot.”

Prior to Game 2, Karl said he’d rather have a team-first mentality than jump on a star’s back at crunch time.

“Finding that at the end of the game is an art,” Karl said. “The reason [people] like go-to players is it’s easier. It’s easier to say, ‘Give it to him, space the court, read the defense and the guy with the ball will take a shot.’ “

Nene is viewed as the Nuggets’ top scoring option now, a first for him in his nine-year NBA career. Danilo Gallinari(notes) has the potential to be that go-to guy, but he’s still trying to fit in and doesn’t yet have the mentality needed to fill that star role.

“I don’t worry about being that guy,” said Nene, who had 16 points in Game 2. “I try to [look for] the best option.”

The last star-by-committee team to win big was the 2004 Detroit Pistons, but even they had clutch scorers who came through when needed in Chauncey Billups(notes) and Rasheed Wallace(notes). That might be what the Nuggets are building toward.

Denver’s brass of Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri deserves credit for making the best of a horrible situation after Anthony turned down a three-year, $64 million deal and asked for a trade. It isn’t easy dealing the face of your franchise when everyone knows he wants out for one particular team. The Nuggets still squeezed, via a three-team trade, Gallinari, Wilson Chandler(notes), Raymond Felton(notes), Timofey Mozgov(notes) and Kosta Koufos. In Anthony, the Nuggets lost a four-time All-Star who was the franchise’s third all-time leading scorer and known for making big shots.

After the deal, the hope was the Nuggets would merely make the playoffs. But with the Knicks’ old supporting cast in tow, Denver played much grander than expected. Karl actually did a Coach of the Year-type job with a team full off co-stars and role players. He told anyone who’d listen that he expected to win this first-round series.

While Karl believes his team was shell-shocked by the no-call goaltending in the Game 1 defeat, the bigger issue for Denver was the inability to score in the fourth quarter, when they mustered only 21 points. On Wednesday, their scoring deficiency showed up early, leading to a rout.

Committee basketball got the Nuggets into the playoffs and somehow heightened expectations. Not having a star they can depend on offensively, like ‘Melo, will make it a short visit.

Lots of promising young guys and no consistent offense when you need it. Sounds vaguely familiar. Oh wait......

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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4/21/2011  9:04 PM
loweyecue wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A2KIRyMgGrBNN2oAZga8vLYF?slug=mc-spears_nuggets_lose_carmelo_anthony_trail_series_042111

Nuggets miss scoring punch ‘Melo once provided

OKLAHOMA CITY – The Denver Nuggets went home winless Wednesday night after two playoff games against the Oklahoma City Thunder. The Nuggets’ lone victory against the Thunder in five total meetings this season was on Jan. 19, when Carmelo Anthony(notes) scored a game-high 35 points, his only appearance in the season series.

After the Nuggets were forced to trade Anthony to the New York Knicks, a strong perception grew that they could be more successful without Anthony as Denver went 18-7 without its star. But by the looks of Denver’s pair of postseason losses, the key things needed for victory is what Anthony could’ve provided – something missing from the current roster.


“‘Melo is a terrific scorer,” said Thunder coach Scott Brooks, a former Nuggets assistant. “He scores like Kevin [Durant]. He can score on the wing, up at the top, the post, the 3-point line, coast to coast. …

“‘Melo beats a lot of guys. I coached him three years. He has the ability to make plays for everybody.”

Said one NBA head coach: “On the road and in the playoffs more than ever, you need a guy that can draw double teams and go to the free-throw line.”

The Nuggets missed that guy on Wednesday night as the Thunder blitzed them early and never looked back in a 106-89 victory. Denver was in desperate need of scoring as it fell behind 31-15 at the end of the first quarter. Guard Ty Lawson(notes) had a team-high 20 points and three more scored at least 15 as the Nuggets trailed by as many as 26 and shot 39.1 percent from the field.

“We got a team that is so wide open now,” forward Al Harrington(notes) said. “When ‘Melo was here, you knew where the ball was going to go to and he took most of the shots. He was going to get our team going. But now that he’s gone, we really don’t know who it’s going to be any given night. Coach [George Karl] just coaches off of feel and who’s hot.”

Prior to Game 2, Karl said he’d rather have a team-first mentality than jump on a star’s back at crunch time.

“Finding that at the end of the game is an art,” Karl said. “The reason [people] like go-to players is it’s easier. It’s easier to say, ‘Give it to him, space the court, read the defense and the guy with the ball will take a shot.’ “

Nene is viewed as the Nuggets’ top scoring option now, a first for him in his nine-year NBA career. Danilo Gallinari(notes) has the potential to be that go-to guy, but he’s still trying to fit in and doesn’t yet have the mentality needed to fill that star role.

“I don’t worry about being that guy,” said Nene, who had 16 points in Game 2. “I try to [look for] the best option.”

The last star-by-committee team to win big was the 2004 Detroit Pistons, but even they had clutch scorers who came through when needed in Chauncey Billups(notes) and Rasheed Wallace(notes). That might be what the Nuggets are building toward.

Denver’s brass of Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri deserves credit for making the best of a horrible situation after Anthony turned down a three-year, $64 million deal and asked for a trade. It isn’t easy dealing the face of your franchise when everyone knows he wants out for one particular team. The Nuggets still squeezed, via a three-team trade, Gallinari, Wilson Chandler(notes), Raymond Felton(notes), Timofey Mozgov(notes) and Kosta Koufos. In Anthony, the Nuggets lost a four-time All-Star who was the franchise’s third all-time leading scorer and known for making big shots.

After the deal, the hope was the Nuggets would merely make the playoffs. But with the Knicks’ old supporting cast in tow, Denver played much grander than expected. Karl actually did a Coach of the Year-type job with a team full off co-stars and role players. He told anyone who’d listen that he expected to win this first-round series.

While Karl believes his team was shell-shocked by the no-call goaltending in the Game 1 defeat, the bigger issue for Denver was the inability to score in the fourth quarter, when they mustered only 21 points. On Wednesday, their scoring deficiency showed up early, leading to a rout.

Committee basketball got the Nuggets into the playoffs and somehow heightened expectations. Not having a star they can depend on offensively, like ‘Melo, will make it a short visit.

Lots of promising young guys and no consistent offense when you need it. Sounds vaguely familiar. Oh wait......

Some of these guys are playing for new contracts. Apparently JR got benched for going 1-6 and -17 in 6 minutes Doubt he was happy about either his performance or his getting pulled so perhaps chemistry is rearing it's head in Denver. You don't get too far on me first in the playoffs.

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4/21/2011  9:48 PM
loweyecue wrote:
Lots of promising young guys and no consistent offense when you need it. Sounds vaguely familiar. Oh wait......

Ha Ha

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4/21/2011  9:51 PM
Olbrannon wrote:

Some of these guys are playing for new contracts. Apparently JR got benched for going 1-6 and -17 in 6 minutes Doubt he was happy about either his performance or his getting pulled so perhaps chemistry is rearing it's head in Denver. You don't get too far on me first in the playoffs.

Yeah, I'm wondering how much of that "we're better without Melo" stuff from Karl we'll be hearing after this series is over...

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4/22/2011  8:00 PM
Papabear Says

We have heart but not the man power to get it done. We played better up in Boston. But I am proud of my guys.

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4/22/2011  10:42 PM
jamal crawford WOW. he's always been an underrated closer, he has some tricks up his sleeve, a quick trigger, and great range.
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4/23/2011  7:50 PM
HOLY SHIT BRANDON ROY!!!!!!! THE BLAZERS!!! ONE OF THE BEST COMEBACKS IVE EVER WATCHED!!!!
Had enough Melo?
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4/23/2011  10:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/23/2011  10:20 PM
amare's back. chauncey's knee. down 3-0. blown out last game. crawford jumper last night. zbo 3pter tonight.

are we ****ing cursed?

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4/23/2011  10:47 PM
Gallo has to learn to improve his finishing at the rim
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