Juice wrote:Shelden Williams...lol

7 min against Sixers

12 min against Jersey

10 min against Pacers

4 min against Bulls

YEAH SURE YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS STARTING HIM DURING THE PLAYOFFS AND PLAYING HIM REAL MINUTES

Let's Be Reality folks this coach does not want to play a more traditional center

Shelden Williams is trash man.

Jared Jefferies is trash.

Ronny Turiaf is trash.

Doesn't matter which one you play. You get the same results.

Juice wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Seriously Douglas makes my head hurt. His defense is also highly overrated.

We need vets like Battier. Guys you can trust to make the right play.

He's much like No Sharrington was last year. Momentum rally killer late in games...a guy when he makes a 3 when looked at objectively isn't necessarily in the best interest of the team because he'll follow it up with a heave, a floating chuck, a turnover trying launch from his own 10yrd line, then back to making a layup, then an air ball 3, then an ankle breaking making 3. All without his teammates ever seeing the rock

I'm tired of watching this from him....sick and tired of it

His defense is laughable at times, he's more a hacker than anything else and commits them at the most inopportune time. I've never seen him run 4-5set plays in a row for someone else not named Toney Douglas....he was told by coach on the sidelines to Do U earlier this year and Toney just smiled...knowing inside his head he told himself you ain't said nothing but the first 3 letters of my last name coach best believe I will.

Ya know if Stat hits the floor Douglas wouldn't be taking as many shots obviously ,,,and for all your whining about his defense he had 13 points 5 reb's 4 steals and 3 assists. He wasn't the only one who's shot was off. And the whole timing of the rotation changes with Stat in. Plus there should be more open space.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Don't be surprised to see a whole lot of this in the playoffs.

Defense, not offense, is the key to playoff victories.

I did like what I saw from the Knicks overall in this game on the defensive end. Rose had a few leakouts and clear shots at the basket, but not to the degree that he usually does. Our D gave them some trouble at times, we just weren't hitting shots. This team can defend and I fully expect that in the Playoffs this team will be much sharper on D and have some answers on offense that we haven't shown teams yet.

It will make a difference having a healthy STAT in there too you know. The idea is that we play teams full strength and in that scenario I think it's MUCH harder to defend this team than what the Bull saw tonight. Don't be so sure that this Knicks team won't have some adjustments for when teams try to do what the Bulls did. That's what makes the playoffs so different. When the talent is equal it's often in the adjustments each team makes. We missed a lot of wide open shots and obviously we have the ability to hit those shots. If we did, the Bulls would not have won. It wasn't all their defense that made them win, it was also some bad offense by the Knicks. I don't believe that teams are going to be able to consistently hold this team down from scoring. The Knicks are a legit high power offensive team. Teams generally don't stop us, we stop ourselves.

LOL.

Every time I read your post it just seems like you copy-pasted your response of the last 10 years.

I'm not sure if you really mean what you're saying or not because there is no way you watch these two teams on the court and think the Knicks can beat them in a 7-game series. The Bulls defense isn't much better or worse than the Celtics defense. Offensive firepower will only get you so far in the playoffs. Please take a look at Mr. D'Antoni's previous offensive firepower teams that flamed out in the playoffs. If you don't play both sides of the ball - primarily the defensive side - you will ultimately lose.

But okay, the Knicks played good defense tonight. 103 points is good defense for the Knicks, sure. They do give up 106 ppg. But they only scored 90 today. And the 90's are the usual scores in the playoffs. Nobody is putting up 107 ppg in the playoffs. So either we get serious about it or we go home before you can say 'Game 6'.

You're looking at this the wrong way. You keep looking at the point total and make assumptions based on that. The Knicks did play some good D. We also stopped trying to win at one point too. This game wasn't as important to us as it was to the Bulls!!! If it was that important STAT would've played!!! From what I saw there were a TON of open shots that we just missed. Even Thibs was seeing that and got on his team about it. The Bulls had a short stretch where they played some good D. but let's not get carried away. If not for Rose, the Bulls suck. He's the only reason they win games. Yeah they play tough on D, but that crap only carries them so far. It's D ROSE that puts them over the top. I do believe that we can beat the Bulls in a series if we played them. I think we have a real shot against the Celtics too. I just haven't seen those teams looking like they out class us.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Don't be surprised to see a whole lot of this in the playoffs.

Defense, not offense, is the key to playoff victories.

I did like what I saw from the Knicks overall in this game on the defensive end. Rose had a few leakouts and clear shots at the basket, but not to the degree that he usually does. Our D gave them some trouble at times, we just weren't hitting shots. This team can defend and I fully expect that in the Playoffs this team will be much sharper on D and have some answers on offense that we haven't shown teams yet.

It will make a difference having a healthy STAT in there too you know. The idea is that we play teams full strength and in that scenario I think it's MUCH harder to defend this team than what the Bull saw tonight. Don't be so sure that this Knicks team won't have some adjustments for when teams try to do what the Bulls did. That's what makes the playoffs so different. When the talent is equal it's often in the adjustments each team makes. We missed a lot of wide open shots and obviously we have the ability to hit those shots. If we did, the Bulls would not have won. It wasn't all their defense that made them win, it was also some bad offense by the Knicks. I don't believe that teams are going to be able to consistently hold this team down from scoring. The Knicks are a legit high power offensive team. Teams generally don't stop us, we stop ourselves.

LOL.

Every time I read your post it just seems like you copy-pasted your response of the last 10 years.

I'm not sure if you really mean what you're saying or not because there is no way you watch these two teams on the court and think the Knicks can beat them in a 7-game series. The Bulls defense isn't much better or worse than the Celtics defense. Offensive firepower will only get you so far in the playoffs. Please take a look at Mr. D'Antoni's previous offensive firepower teams that flamed out in the playoffs. If you don't play both sides of the ball - primarily the defensive side - you will ultimately lose.

But okay, the Knicks played good defense tonight. 103 points is good defense for the Knicks, sure. They do give up 106 ppg. But they only scored 90 today. And the 90's are the usual scores in the playoffs. Nobody is putting up 107 ppg in the playoffs. So either we get serious about it or we go home before you can say 'Game 6'.

You're looking at this the wrong way. You keep looking at the point total and make assumptions based on that. The Knicks did play some good D. We also stopped trying to win at one point too. This game wasn't as important to us as it was to the Bulls!!! If it was that important STAT would've played!!! From what I saw there were a TON of open shots that we just missed. Even Thibs was seeing that and got on his team about it. The Bulls had a short stretch where they played some good D. but let's not get carried away. If not for Rose, the Bulls suck. He's the only reason they win games. Yeah they play tough on D, but that crap only carries them so far. It's D ROSE that puts them over the top. I do believe that we can beat the Bulls in a series if we played them. I think we have a real shot against the Celtics too. I just haven't seen those teams looking like they out class us.

LOL...61 wins and 2nd best record in the NBA and apparently that is all Derrick Rose and not the defense. "That crap" is what wins NBA titles, not D'Antoni's system.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Don't be surprised to see a whole lot of this in the playoffs.

Defense, not offense, is the key to playoff victories.

I did like what I saw from the Knicks overall in this game on the defensive end. Rose had a few leakouts and clear shots at the basket, but not to the degree that he usually does. Our D gave them some trouble at times, we just weren't hitting shots. This team can defend and I fully expect that in the Playoffs this team will be much sharper on D and have some answers on offense that we haven't shown teams yet.

It will make a difference having a healthy STAT in there too you know. The idea is that we play teams full strength and in that scenario I think it's MUCH harder to defend this team than what the Bull saw tonight. Don't be so sure that this Knicks team won't have some adjustments for when teams try to do what the Bulls did. That's what makes the playoffs so different. When the talent is equal it's often in the adjustments each team makes. We missed a lot of wide open shots and obviously we have the ability to hit those shots. If we did, the Bulls would not have won. It wasn't all their defense that made them win, it was also some bad offense by the Knicks. I don't believe that teams are going to be able to consistently hold this team down from scoring. The Knicks are a legit high power offensive team. Teams generally don't stop us, we stop ourselves.

LOL.

Every time I read your post it just seems like you copy-pasted your response of the last 10 years.

I'm not sure if you really mean what you're saying or not because there is no way you watch these two teams on the court and think the Knicks can beat them in a 7-game series. The Bulls defense isn't much better or worse than the Celtics defense. Offensive firepower will only get you so far in the playoffs. Please take a look at Mr. D'Antoni's previous offensive firepower teams that flamed out in the playoffs. If you don't play both sides of the ball - primarily the defensive side - you will ultimately lose.

But okay, the Knicks played good defense tonight. 103 points is good defense for the Knicks, sure. They do give up 106 ppg. But they only scored 90 today. And the 90's are the usual scores in the playoffs. Nobody is putting up 107 ppg in the playoffs. So either we get serious about it or we go home before you can say 'Game 6'.

You're looking at this the wrong way. You keep looking at the point total and make assumptions based on that. The Knicks did play some good D. We also stopped trying to win at one point too. This game wasn't as important to us as it was to the Bulls!!! If it was that important STAT would've played!!! From what I saw there were a TON of open shots that we just missed. Even Thibs was seeing that and got on his team about it. The Bulls had a short stretch where they played some good D. but let's not get carried away. If not for Rose, the Bulls suck. He's the only reason they win games. Yeah they play tough on D, but that crap only carries them so far. It's D ROSE that puts them over the top. I do believe that we can beat the Bulls in a series if we played them. I think we have a real shot against the Celtics too. I just haven't seen those teams looking like they out class us.

LOL...61 wins and 2nd best record in the NBA and apparently that is all Derrick Rose and not the defense. "That crap" is what wins NBA titles, not D'Antoni's system.

You mean like Lebron and his Cavs last year? Don't be so naive. The Bulls are a lot easier to gameplan for than other great teams. They're pretty much just like Lebron and the Cavs. The only guy you really have to worry about is Rose. Playoff teams are going to eventually figure out a way to take him away. No one is going to reveal that plan in the regular season, but watch for it in the playoffs.

Is this a joke? Did LeBron have anyone near the caliber of Boozer and Noah? And don't say Jamison and Varejao.

Also, Mike Brown was a horrible coach.

The came out forgotten.

Lets see how the Bulls fair.

Are we talking about Thibs success or MDA"s inability to win a championship?

There are few Champions without the name Jackson or Popovich the last 15 years.

Look at those guys. They play with what they got. I would not say the Lakes are lock down defense first and they run quite a bit but they are anchored by bigs who guard the paint. Yes, good defense does start the break!

Noah is a d-first kind of guy and very good at what he does. Quick hands, quick feet, long and can run. Booze is not Amare but plays a higher post game and is a very good passer and strong around the basket. These bulls impress me. Deng is being used very effectively this year.

And lets not get too carried away, for all his greatness Thibs has a 6-9 point guard that just is out of this world!

If you don't play defense, you're most likely going to lose.

Do you not understand the fundamentals of basketball?

nyk4ever wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva,

If you don't play defense, you're most likely going to lose.

Do you not understand the fundamentals of basketball?

lol this post is funny on multiple levels.

What I find even more funny is you not giving a reason why.