nixluva wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:I can understand that, but I would've kept one of the two on the floor while the other rested. Our offense was nonexistent outside of Gallo. You take him out, you would at least expect Amar'e to take over in the 4th. You take out both, you just pray things don't get too ugly too fast.

Mike seemed to get confused in working the rotations tonight. I think he's a bit off his game with the lack of Chandler and inserting Timo, who I noticed kept getting in the way of Amar'e tonight. Also having Williams back tonight after not having him or chandler the last game. Then trying to matchup with what Dallas had on the floor which is tough to do. He just seemed not to really have any answers tonight. It's gonna take him some time to get used to an extended rotation.

tkf wrote:
Felton: has to stop trying to shoot his way out of a slump.. not the job of a PG

Play AR and moz more dantoni!!!

i agree with most of your points - but i'll say this:

the problem with felton this year has been his inability to run a reliable pick and roll. he's had spurts where he has figured it out, but really he can't seem to get the timing down. when the pick and roll is gone or not working... felton's job kind of IS to shoot. he needs to be a threat for pick and roll to work. the spurs used to give steve nash the jumper and double amare off the pick and roll. i remember one playoffs game between the suns and spurs where nash took the jumpers the spurs were giving him and scored 45pts - because he's a great shooter and that was literally his only option because it was what the defense gave him. felton is not the shooter nash is, nor can he run a pick and roll as well, so he is left to shoot and can't make them as well as nash.

and, yes, dammit, they need to play AR more. it's insanely frustrating.

crzymdups wrote:

tkf wrote:
Felton: has to stop trying to shoot his way out of a slump.. not the job of a PG

Play AR and moz more dantoni!!!

i agree with most of your points - but i'll say this:

the problem with felton this year has been his inability to run a reliable pick and roll. he's had spurts where he has figured it out, but really he can't seem to get the timing down. when the pick and roll is gone or not working... felton's job kind of IS to shoot. he needs to be a threat for pick and roll to work. the spurs used to give steve nash the jumper and double amare off the pick and roll. i remember one playoffs game between the suns and spurs where nash took the jumpers the spurs were giving him and scored 45pts - because he's a great shooter and that was literally his only option because it was what the defense gave him. felton is not the shooter nash is, nor can he run a pick and roll as well, so he is left to shoot and can't make them as well as nash.

and, yes, dammit, they need to play AR more. it's insanely frustrating.

good point, about the pick and roll.. it is almost live and die with the PG here... not sure that makes me feel better in this case.. haha

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:I can understand that, but I would've kept one of the two on the floor while the other rested. Our offense was nonexistent outside of Gallo. You take him out, you would at least expect Amar'e to take over in the 4th. You take out both, you just pray things don't get too ugly too fast.

Mike seemed to get confused in working the rotations tonight. I think he's a bit off his game with the lack of Chandler and inserting Timo, who I noticed kept getting in the way of Amar'e tonight. Also having Williams back tonight after not having him or chandler the last game. Then trying to matchup with what Dallas had on the floor which is tough to do. He just seemed not to really have any answers tonight. It's gonna take him some time to get used to an extended rotation.

Always ready with the excuses. Can't u just say he did a **** job? Why do u have to defend his every fault? Are u related or something?

Nix just said that MDA did a poor job with rotations, what else are you looking for?

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:I can understand that, but I would've kept one of the two on the floor while the other rested. Our offense was nonexistent outside of Gallo. You take him out, you would at least expect Amar'e to take over in the 4th. You take out both, you just pray things don't get too ugly too fast.

Mike seemed to get confused in working the rotations tonight. I think he's a bit off his game with the lack of Chandler and inserting Timo, who I noticed kept getting in the way of Amar'e tonight. Also having Williams back tonight after not having him or chandler the last game. Then trying to matchup with what Dallas had on the floor which is tough to do. He just seemed not to really have any answers tonight. It's gonna take him some time to get used to an extended rotation.

Always ready with the excuses. Can't u just say he did a **** job? Why do u have to defend his every fault? Are u related or something?

Nix just said that MDA did a poor job with rotations, what else are you looking for?

He listed 4 reasons why he was "confused". And finally that its going to "take some time to get used to an extended rotation."
We're not talking about a rookie coach. He shouldn't be "confused" by having a player or 2 out and trying to match up with a good team.
Either he did a good job, or he didn't.

I think saying a coach is confused is pretty damning. I did not think he was making excuses but rather stating that MDA did a bad job.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:I can understand that, but I would've kept one of the two on the floor while the other rested. Our offense was nonexistent outside of Gallo. You take him out, you would at least expect Amar'e to take over in the 4th. You take out both, you just pray things don't get too ugly too fast.

Mike seemed to get confused in working the rotations tonight. I think he's a bit off his game with the lack of Chandler and inserting Timo, who I noticed kept getting in the way of Amar'e tonight. Also having Williams back tonight after not having him or chandler the last game. Then trying to matchup with what Dallas had on the floor which is tough to do. He just seemed not to really have any answers tonight. It's gonna take him some time to get used to an extended rotation.

Always ready with the excuses. Can't u just say he did a **** job? Why do u have to defend his every fault? Are u related or something?

Nix just said that MDA did a poor job with rotations, what else are you looking for?

He listed 4 reasons why he was "confused". And finally that its going to "take some time to get used to an extended rotation."
We're not talking about a rookie coach. He shouldn't be "confused" by having a player or 2 out and trying to match up with a good team.
Either he did a good job, or he didn't.

right, life is so cut and dried.

So you think a head coach in the NBA should be "confused" by having a player out of his rotation (who by the way was out last game, too, which we won), and having another come back in?

maybe gallo needs to get more and more iso's and have other players spread for kickouts or follow his shots to the rim. nothing else was really working for us but gallo doing his thing.

Marv wrote:that was a REALLY frustrating 3rd quarter. especially to be beaten by my most hated player in the league (dirks) and one who's rapidly rising on that list (barea).

maybe gallo needs to get more and more iso's and have other players spread for kickouts or follow his shots to the rim. nothing else was really working for us but gallo doing his thing.

Last night the Knicks had Gallo and Amare both set up on the elbow (as they usually do have 2 guys who occupy those spots, just not Gallo usually) and Amare got the ball every single time.

Somethings gotta change, especially when Amare just doesn't have it, and he didn't last night.

Would love to see it happen, but not overly worried. Still a young team, although Felton should know better.

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:that was a REALLY frustrating 3rd quarter. especially to be beaten by my most hated player in the league (dirks) and one who's rapidly rising on that list (barea).

maybe gallo needs to get more and more iso's and have other players spread for kickouts or follow his shots to the rim. nothing else was really working for us but gallo doing his thing.

Last night the Knicks had Gallo and Amare both set up on the elbow (as they usually do have 2 guys who occupy those spots, just not Gallo usually) and Amare got the ball every single time.

Somethings gotta change, especially when Amare just doesn't have it, and he didn't last night.

Would love to see it happen, but not overly worried. Still a young team, although Felton should know better.

Noticed that too. Felton is doing his best Dudu imitation.

not a big deal IMHO. This is still the 4th youngest team in the league and that would include Curry and Mason and Azu who are doing nothing.

BTW, for the second game in a row, MDA had a lineup for a decent stretch of the game which included at least 4 guys who are all 24 or younger (not garbage time). For a guy who doesnt like to play young players, he is killing his own reputation.

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:that was a REALLY frustrating 3rd quarter. especially to be beaten by my most hated player in the league (dirks) and one who's rapidly rising on that list (barea).

maybe gallo needs to get more and more iso's and have other players spread for kickouts or follow his shots to the rim. nothing else was really working for us but gallo doing his thing.

Last night the Knicks had Gallo and Amare both set up on the elbow (as they usually do have 2 guys who occupy those spots, just not Gallo usually) and Amare got the ball every single time.

Somethings gotta change, especially when Amare just doesn't have it, and he didn't last night.

Would love to see it happen, but not overly worried. Still a young team, although Felton should know better.

amare and felton need to realize that their life will get easier the better the other guys on the team play, and those guys can't contribute if theyare not touching the ball... it is not always about shots, but about flow... guys have to feel involved.... guys move faster and run harder when they are fed..

martin wrote:haven't read through the Gamethread to see reactions from the beginning of the second half, but I thought Ronny was a big part of the collapse (and Felton). Dudes only job is to defend and guard basket through rebounding and blocks and he was a siv.

And that airball shot from 15 feet? What the hell was he thinking?

Rony was brutally bad last night.