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Game Thread: New York Knicks (2-2) vs. Washington Wizards (1-2) - Friday, November 5, 2010 - 7:30 PM EST
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PresIke
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11/6/2010  1:03 AM
OjilEye wrote:I don't like how close the Wizards have hung in this ballgame, despite how everything is going well for the Knicks. They're 6 pts behind. This is a lead/game we cannot relinquish. But I'm definitely digging D'Antoni's energy tonight, barking out commands.

should it be expected at this point that our mediocre team on a back-to-back should destroy a team some here have touted as better than the knicks?

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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PresIke
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11/6/2010  1:03 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:We're really gonna let this fool Arenas beast on us now?

he didn;t beast...just od'd for 2 minutes

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11/6/2010  1:25 AM
Fans will adjust to the truth about this team soon enough. This is gonna be a tough team to beat for anybody this year. We still have so much improvement to make, but so far you can see how the talent fits together and how this team is setup to be a very good defensive team. The only guy that bugs me is Walker. He tends not to give 100% on D. He is so athletic as we saw on his dunks. He should always put forth max energy, but he doesn't. Still overall this team is so much better than previous years that it's not even close.

For those who thought that this team was gonna struggle or be a bottom feeder, it should make them glad to see that this team is looking good earlier than expected. Imagine if they had the PnR roll working? Who would've thought the Knicks would lead the league in blocks?

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11/6/2010  1:34 AM
Papabear Says

Great win! Walsh please don't trade away these kids. Maybe we can make the playoffs with what we have now.

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11/6/2010  2:05 AM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Great win! Walsh please don't trade away these kids. Maybe we can make the playoffs with what we have now.

If Azubuike can eventually get back to the player he was becoming and Randolph is able to look like the player he was before his ankle issue last year, these Knicks will definitely reach the playoffs this year.

With everyone healthy and playing to potential, we have as much roster depth and flexibility as any team in the NBA, even if we are not the star-laden team which some want us to be.

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11/6/2010  2:49 AM
i'm not impressed. if the knicks didn't shoot a great percentage from three, and if the wizards didn't let them block so many shots, and if john wall played better -- we woulda lost. c'mon!! do you really think we're going to get 11 steals and 11 blocks and force 23 turnovers every game? this is a lucky win. should i feel bad because i know more than you guys about basketball? CLASSIC!!!
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11/6/2010  3:53 AM
Tony Douglas is going to play himself into the 6th man of the year if he keeps this up.
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11/6/2010  7:21 AM
Another beautiful thing is that Houston is 0 - 4. They have the option to exchange first round picks with us this year but it looks like they will be below us in the standings. So we won't have to switch.
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11/6/2010  8:08 AM
evil, get off my dck..seriously.
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11/6/2010  9:04 AM
Childs2Dudley should be our designated game thread maker this season.
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11/6/2010  10:58 AM
Went to the game last night. Not sure if it was the carbombs n beers or the great sharing of the ball but that was a helluva lot of fun.
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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11/6/2010  11:08 AM
iSergio wrote:I'll take Ronny Turiaf and his 6 points, 4 rebounds and defense over David Lee and his 20 and 10 and zero defense.

And Toney Douglas is a keeper.

Finally something we agree on. I always liked Turiaf and I think he was great "get" on the Lee trade.

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11/6/2010  11:28 AM
http://www.nba.com/knicks/features/201011qa_turiaf.html

NYKnicks.com: You can see how genuinely excited you are to be here…

Turiaf: You know how a lot of time people can talk in clichés? When I tell you that it is probably something that I needed in my life, this is something that I needed to my core. I consider this is a blessing from above. I’m a winner. I am somebody that wants to win and I think to be part of that movement, to be part of something positive and somewhere where people want nothing but to be positive and win –I mean, that is what it is all about. And I am willing to sacrifice whatever it takes to make it happen here.

NYKnicks.com: Tell Knicks fans what to expect out of you each and every night.

Turiaf: Well, where should I begin? (laughs). Now that I have two knees and am very healthy, they can expect me to give it my all not only for a short period of time, but for extended minutes. Unfortunately for myself, I have had to deal with knee injuries the last year and a half so I wasn’t free to really show people what I can do. It’s funny. Somebody told me on Twitter yesterday that they can’t wait for me to prove the doubters wrong and the believers right. I thought that was really interesting because people have really questioned me in the past year about my conditioning and that I wasn’t committed to my basketball career. But I was playing with one bad knee, so guess what? Now I am healthy and I am excited to prove myself.

NYKnicks.com: This is your first time living on the East Coast. How is that going to be for you?

Turiaf: I’m not going to lie, I am a West Coast kind of guy. I lived Spokane, Washington right next to Seattle. I went to Gonzaga – shout out to Gonzaga who I am always representing! – but I lived there for four years and it was snowing. But if you look at the basketball side, the basketball side went really well. So I am really hoping that once it starts snowing here and getting cold, the basketball side will go well once again.

NYKnicks.com: What do you think of New York City itself?

Turiaf: It’s pretty cool! There is always something going on. I was talking to Anthony Randolph the other day about the fact that people are so lively here. You drive down the street and see people living and loving life, having barbeques and always up to something, and that is something I have never really seen. This is not the same thing on the West Coast. So I can’t wait until I randomly just show up at somebody’s barbeque and just try to crash it! (laughs)

NYKnicks.com: There is a lot of talent here on this team with Randolph, Amar’e Stoudemire, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler…

Turiaf: Don’t forget about Toney Douglas!

NYKnicks.com: He was on that list. I was getting there!

Turiaf: (laughs)I just had to make sure you were going to mention him! That is somebody that I respect a lot. His work ethic is phenomenal. He is somebody who the last few weeks I have really watched and learned to appreciate because he might have had a bit of a rough beginning in terms of playing time as a rookie, but you can see he really stepped in and produced when the team needed him. That’s pretty awesome. I can’t wait to see him be a player that people might not see as a star, but he will prove people wrong. But as far as everybody else, everyone is on the same page. We are ready to win. After talking to Ray (Felton) when he first got here and talking to him again a couple weeks ago when he was here, he wants to win. Stoudemire, you know he wants to win. Wilson just said it on the Q & A you had up on the site last week and kept stressing how he wanted to win. I am tired personally of losing and I want to get back to winning basketball games. So we have guys that are definitely dedicated to winning, so I hope that we put everything together and that once the season starts and the ball goes up that first game, we are all willing to sacrifice. If we are all willing to sacrifice for the greater good of the team, we will all end up looking good and seeing the results we want as a whole. I think Coach D’Antoni has a system in place that will keep everyone happy, and I am just ready to get started.

I love what d'Antoni is doing here. The chemistry between Turiaf and Douglas is awesome. And I have seen Turiaf coaching him up when he missed something. But TD is going to be a force to be reckoned with. His teammates have called him 'Clamps' His coach (Leonard Hamilton) called him the best defensive guard I ever coached. And Starks was one of those he coached. Chandler, Turiaf and Douglas might be the best bench in the NBA

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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11/6/2010  11:32 AM
OasisBU wrote:Childs2Dudley should be our designated game thread maker this season.
he's our bipolar thread maker...

Knicks are gonna win
Knicks kick ass and win
childs2duds: not happy because Knicks kicked too much ass.

The Knicks DO shoot a lot of 3's but the scoring is pretty balanced in the amount of attacking the paint our guards do.

I was really happy with one sequense last night... Wiz were getting back into the game late, Knicks missed b2b 3 point attempts. Next time down the floor Felton passes a resonable open look from 3 and got Chandler the ball from about 8 feet away. He made a nice fall back move (from in the paint) drew contact and swished the bucked. And-one.

We are NOT just chucking a 3 and then done. Guards are following their shot to the rim. Bigs are tipping the balls back out. We are making nothing easy on the other team in any facet of the game. We pressure, we fight on defense, we contest shots, we fight through screens, we fight on offense.

I'm loving this team early.

Amare and Felton REALLY showing bigtime leadship IMO. Amare taking charges and blocking shots and being the vocal leader. Its huge. When his shot isnt falling and his TOs are high he's done what a star is supposed to do, step it up on defense and in other areas

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11/6/2010  11:37 AM
Seriously our bench has really impressed me thus far. Add a healthy Buike and some more productivity from AR and we can run other teams out of the building. But this is still early going and consistency is the key.
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11/6/2010  11:41 AM
loweyecue wrote:Finally something we agree on. I always liked Turiaf and I think he was great "get" on the Lee trade.

From what we have seen so far... I would have traded Lee for Turiaf straight up.
Every great team needs a guy like Turiaf.

Before the season started I was worried that his contract extended beyond this offseason.
Now I never want the Knicks to part with him.

He is really showing us a lot out there.

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11/6/2010  12:00 PM
not for nothing Turiaf has done this before. He was among shot blocking leaders w/ GS. He's always done this. Comparing him to Lee is idiocy. Without guys who fill out the stat sheet and score and rebound hustle guys like Turiaf have zero impact.

Turiaf is a very bad offensive player. He has ZERO post moves. He's a well below average rebounder. He's a very good defender and has great shot blocking instincts. When the other 4 guys on the floor are playing their asses off on defense it makes Turiaf's play look that much better. He's a very nice role player off the bench, and part of a very good defensive Knicks team.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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11/6/2010  12:53 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:evil, get off my dck..seriously.

listen you emotionally imbalanced scrub. if you gonna be on here pouting like a bitch every time something wack happens, you gonna get made fun of for it. so suck it up and take your lumps. they gonna be 4-14 right? hahahaha!!! you know so much about basketball. hahahahaha!!!!

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11/6/2010  1:22 PM
eViL wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:evil, get off my dck..seriously.

listen you emotionally imbalanced scrub. if you gonna be on here pouting like a bitch every time something wack happens, you gonna get made fun of for it. so suck it up and take your lumps. they gonna be 4-14 right? hahahaha!!! you know so much about basketball. hahahahaha!!!!

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11/6/2010  2:10 PM
eViL wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:evil, get off my dck..seriously.

listen you emotionally imbalanced scrub. if you gonna be on here pouting like a bitch every time something wack happens, you gonna get made fun of for it. so suck it up and take your lumps. they gonna be 4-14 right? hahahaha!!! you know so much about basketball. hahahahaha!!!!

sorry C2D.. when you hate on your own team and they come out of the gate fighting like they are your gonna have to suck this up. I'm fishmike and I endorse this message
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Game Thread: New York Knicks (2-2) vs. Washington Wizards (1-2) - Friday, November 5, 2010 - 7:30 PM EST

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