He was free flowing and scoring in the second on the strength of what he does best.

Seemed to demonstrate his reputation both good and bad.

BRIGGS wrote:

kam77 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Nalod wrote:I can see why Nellie got frustrated with AR. The Dude don't pass the ball and I can see is a bonehead.

The only thing that concerned me is he seemed to beast during "garbage" time.

Randolph played very well.

None of Randolph's points came with Amare on the floor at the same time.

I don't know what that says.. but i noticed that while TD set up AR with 2 gimme dunks... AR did everything else individually. Not a team player IMO. And he got killed defensively in the 1st quarter on man defense. Yeah he got a block and a goaltend. So there are flashes.

he played only 19 minutes--if we had players who were that effective in the short period of time--we would be very very good. Let Randolph Gallo Mosgov and Chandler play 30 minutes next game--we know what Amare can do--we dont need to play him much in pre season after the 1Q. No reason to over work amare right now--lets see what randolph does when he plays 35 minutes.

Hey Briggs I agree that we should keep both AR and Gallo ....... I like both.
I also agree that Gallo could easily be a 20 pt scorer and with Amare here thats all we need him
to be..... That and he is CLUTCH!!!..... said it yesterday " that's what you get with Gallo huge shots
at huge moments" .......... Cant see us trading him!!

As for AR he no doubt has mad talent....... But he only played 19 minutes cause of fouls first he had 5
TO second had 5 of those as well ..... Then most important is that he didnt play team ball at all yesterday.

Im only saying what I saw ..... He never PASSED not once..... And after having Harrigton its a scary
thought. ..... I know he is young and his ceiling is VERY HIGH ..... But he def needs to play with team
more is all

umynot wrote: Hey Briggs I agree that we should keep both AR and Gallo ....... I like both.
I also agree that Gallo could easily be a 20 pt scorer and with Amare here thats all we need him
to be..... That and he is CLUTCH!!!..... said it yesterday " that's what you get with Gallo huge shots
at huge moments" .......... Cant see us trading him!!

As for AR he no doubt has mad talent....... But he only played 19 minutes cause of fouls first he had 5
TO second had 5 of those as well ..... Then most important is that he didnt play team ball at all yesterday.

Im only saying what I saw ..... He never PASSED not once..... And after having Harrigton its a scary
thought. ..... I know he is young and his ceiling is VERY HIGH ..... But he def needs to play with team
more is all

He did try to force a pass one time and it led to a turnover.

AR just wants to do too much as a player at this point.

I always use the term "comfort zone," and for me a player reaches his comfort zone when his ability, the system and teammates he plays with, and, perhaps most importantly, his understanding of how his ability fits in with his system and teammates, come together.

I'm not sure that AR accepts the idea that he cannot play every position at the same time, and I also think that he is simply too anxious to show what he can do at times.

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:What is garbage time? he came out in the 4th with the second unit that expanded the lead against Milan 1st unit. Did you watch the game--look who was on the floor for Milan--their starters. Things he did--especially using the dribble to get into the lane--not many 6-11 people on the earth can do that. How can you knock his performance--the guy was 7-11--looked like he had 3 blocks and pulled down 3-4 tough rebounds and made some really nice shots. Even two of his Js were in and out. That was a very good first game performance coming off injury @ 21. jesus I watched Turriaf grab one rebound and miss a point blank shot over the same 20 minutes.

The lead was ballooning and D'Antoni pulled the starters. Randolph needs to focus on the defensive end and not look for his offense like he was doing yesterday.

Garnett is a beast because he can anchor a front court with his defense. Randolph can be a star if he focus on his defense and focus on scoring around the rim.

I think KG is a legit 7-1 and Randolph is 6-10 ish. I think Randolph is more of a hybrid 4-3 although he has the ability to block shots as good as any player in the league. I think he is likely to be tentative coming back from injury--so we may not see sick games like 8 blocks in the first q against BO--but I can see a consistent 2 blocks per game and 2-3 alters if he gets 28-32 minutes off the bench as a back up 5-4-3 hybrid player. I think if Randolph concentrate son easy opportunities--you are looking at 16 points 8 rebounds 2 blocks 2 steals 2 assits off the bench shooting 50%

Allanfan20 wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Nalod wrote:I can see why Nellie got frustrated with AR. The Dude don't pass the ball and I can see is a bonehead.

But he is our bonehead and he does have some freakish ability.

His brain is still in development. He gets 3 more years.

I didnt want to be the first to mention it. Randolph needs to focus on finishing plays not starting them. Watching Randolph made me appreciate Gallo a little more because Gallo plays under control and doesn't try to do too much.

The only thing that concerned me is he seemed to beast during "garbage" time.

Randolph played very well. Its like saying you cant teach being 7 feet--well you cant teach being 6-11 and mobile with the ball with the ability to get into the lane like that. He can do a lot of things and as he hones those skills--will be even more viscous to contain. It seemed like he played 35 minutes in 19--mistakes yes--but the good outweighed the bad by a wide margin and there is just so much there. Were a lucky team--we have unique F's--now we need a great 5.

D'Antoni was yelling at Randolph for a reason. Making mistakes is one thing but forcing shots and dribbling and getting the ball taken away are going to have him getting pine time.

he forced one shot--I mean he made 7-11. He didnt yell on a pick and made a couple of poor decisions with the ball. Actually I thought it was embarrassing for MDA to yell at him like that--but MDA seems to need to do that to someone.

He still needs to pass the ball. We don't need Harrington II on this team.

I don't see how we are comparing him to Al Harrington. AR doesn't jack up 3s. He took one 3 at the beginning and that was it. The kid is a finisher. When he's driving to the hoop or posting up, I'd much rather he establish himself as a scorer and the passing will work itself out in the long run.

Yes, he was sloppy at times too. There were things to pick apart. However, he did an excellent job on his scoring opportunities and that's what you want to see. He took high percentage shots besides about 2 shots. That's fine. He was also active on the defensive end.

I would be happier if he didn't try to be the PG though, unless he's wide open. The ball has to find the PG in the fullcourt in MDAs system.

Its his lack of passing that is bringing out Harrington comparisons. I guess I had higher expectation may be even unrealistic ones.

umynot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

kam77 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Nalod wrote:I can see why Nellie got frustrated with AR. The Dude don't pass the ball and I can see is a bonehead.

The only thing that concerned me is he seemed to beast during "garbage" time.

Randolph played very well.

None of Randolph's points came with Amare on the floor at the same time.

I don't know what that says.. but i noticed that while TD set up AR with 2 gimme dunks... AR did everything else individually. Not a team player IMO. And he got killed defensively in the 1st quarter on man defense. Yeah he got a block and a goaltend. So there are flashes.

he played only 19 minutes--if we had players who were that effective in the short period of time--we would be very very good. Let Randolph Gallo Mosgov and Chandler play 30 minutes next game--we know what Amare can do--we dont need to play him much in pre season after the 1Q. No reason to over work amare right now--lets see what randolph does when he plays 35 minutes.

Hey Briggs I agree that we should keep both AR and Gallo ....... I like both.
I also agree that Gallo could easily be a 20 pt scorer and with Amare here thats all we need him
to be..... That and he is CLUTCH!!!..... said it yesterday " that's what you get with Gallo huge shots
at huge moments" .......... Cant see us trading him!!

As for AR he no doubt has mad talent....... But he only played 19 minutes cause of fouls first he had 5
TO second had 5 of those as well ..... Then most important is that he didnt play team ball at all yesterday.

Im only saying what I saw ..... He never PASSED not once..... And after having Harrigton its a scary
thought. ..... I know he is young and his ceiling is VERY HIGH ..... But he def needs to play with team
more is all

He hit Mosgov with a nice dish on the side for a baby jumper--he did pass the ball 4 times 2 went poorly. No big deal--hes a very good player--young and has a real chance to be a special type player and give us some unique F's hard to match up with. I would let him go within reason. I would not scream at anyone--if he does something wrong--remind him--dont belittle him. MDA screamed at him--but he had made like 5-6 nice plays before that one hog. I hope that MDA doesnt have some kind of fetish with pointing out one player to throw rocks at.