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Rich
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1/22/2004  12:46 AM
Posted by MaseInYourFace:
Posted by Nalod:

Why must everything be solved with trades?

Getting and staying healty, playing solid, and practice also counts.

The game was not a total washout. They did not have an answer for Yao. Mutumbo looks tiny compared to him.

shots did not drop, they came to within 9 in the fourth quarter and then neither team could get anything going.

Teams learn from losing, they are not championship quality, and might not be for some time, if ever. But they are better, and still need time.

They looked out of synch. Not trade gonna help that.

they are healthy enough-mutumbo and kt are not hurt, they are just too slow and old in mutumbo's case. too many shots are jumpers by kt and doleac. this team needs to upgrade or a 1st round playoff exit is the best scenario. yea practice counts, too bad wilkins gives notoriously weak practices.

Exactly.
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1/22/2004  7:12 AM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Back to 9th

Rockets only a average western club

We still stink

Another victim of social democracy and too much back bacon.

Houston is above average, expecially for such a young team. They've been atop the Midwest this year, and are a threat to any team that plays them.

Seattle, Utah, Portland - those are average West teams. Stick to hockey, eh.
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1/22/2004  7:31 AM
Looking at the sked, I say the Knicks reach .500 after playing DC on Mar. 7. 20 games. These Knicks will go 13-7.

C'mon, folks. Don't be surprised by this. Houston is the far better team. They have their own Marbury and their own Ewing (actually they have Ewing!) Pat's work with Yao is paying off. No one will stop Yao if he continues to play like that. You can't defend a guy who hits fade-away post shots AND is 7'6".

Knicks have no post-up, nor have they since LJ left (and LJ was a poor man's Patrick in the post, at that).

But, you have to give something to get something. Right now, Marbury is the only untouchable. Sure, give up KVH and Frank and Othella to get a post threat, then you have no SF and you still have KT stewing the rest of the season from the bench.

If the Rasheed deal doesn't happen, I don't see who we'd be able to get. And Portland may just wait out that contract to save money.

Stay with this squad and they'll make the playoffs, maybe even get to the second round. That's Dolan's only goal for this season, and the reason he finally got fed up with Layden.

Look to next year for Zeke to try to get us competing with the good West teams.

As for now, I'm happy to watch this team over the team that took the floor in December.
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1/22/2004  7:48 AM
Its one game. How many open open shots did the knicks miss in the 2nd qtr.? How many teams can stop a 7'6" center from hitting 20' jump shots.? How often is Taylor going to be consistently hot from the perimeter (or has he been reborn)? Between those two they hit 22-30. Did any of you really believe we were going to win out the string?

[Edited by - TheSage on 01/22/2004 07:54:39]

[Edited by - TheSage on 01/22/2004 09:53:07]
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1/22/2004  10:16 AM
Posted by TheSage:

Its one game. How many open open shots did the knicks miss in the 2nd qtr.? How many teams can stop a 7'6" center from hitting 20' jump shots.? How often is Taylor going to be consistently hot from the perimeter (or has he been reborn)? Between those two they hit 22-30. Did any of you really believe we were going to win out the string?

[Edited by - TheSage on 01/22/2004 07:54:39]

[Edited by - TheSage on 01/22/2004 09:53:07]

true sage, no need to panic BUT last night's game CLEARLY exposed our inability to draw fouls by either driving to the hoop or posting up when our jumpers are not falling. i think as long as KT is our staring PF, then we can not make that next step. he's solid and would be PERFECT as the backup PF/C but i don't think a team can win with him as the staring PF.
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1/22/2004  11:09 AM
Understand what you're trying to say but disagree with the KT comments. How many teams can drive the middle against a mobile and agile 7-6 center?
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1/22/2004  1:51 PM
I can't believe nobody mentioned Lenny(being stiff) not doubling Yao to cool him off last night
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/22/2004  3:07 PM
Give props to the Rockets. It was not the knicks playing bad, the Rockets looked damm good. Yao played a great game, Taylor looked good, and they just flat out played us.

KVH did not lose it, all the knicks did not play well, or got beat by a very good team.

Starbury only 8 shots? Wow!

Ewings student (yao) got us good. JVH coached a good game.

Yao played only 29 min? Fatspoon got a DNP!

Not the end of the world. Not ready to fit for those rings just yet either.

Duke-Maryland was a nice game.
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1/22/2004  3:14 PM
Nalod,so are you saying doubling Yao in post wouldn't have mattered?

I guess Lenny's gonna get a free ride huh
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/22/2004  3:17 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Hey Vector, by the time we play the Kings on Feb. 24th, we may have a new front line. We would be more ready for a team like that after the next trade.
wow dude, you are very optimistic. good way to go as a knick fan, gotta be very optimistic with those knicks because you never know when they'll surpirse ya.
Frank Williams is the best knicks player this year. mad Respect
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1/22/2004  3:28 PM
I think hardcore is FOOLING HIMSELF, we have no food in the cupboard for anybody of substance in a trade, this is why BRUNO SUNDOV was picked up.


JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/22/2004  5:54 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

I love the NYK,But hate the management & coach

That's exactly what I said when LayDown & Chaney were here. I guess you were a fan of theirs and now that we are finally going in the RIGHT direction, you wanna be a hater. Tell Playa I said whassup.

You'll get alot of respect on this board that way. Just as much as Playa does.


I havent liked NYK management since Ernie & Dave where shown the door

Wasn't a fan of Scott & Don either
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1/23/2004  9:19 AM
Hey,i think Starbury is ova doing the passing a bit.he should get in the scoring mode as well two breakdown teams early n get to the line.get them big men in foul trouble to get them out there game.he looks like he wants 20ast by half,i know thats what the fans want to see but his scoring could keep us in the game too.i know then later down the line are going to say the complete opposite if he does do it.hey hit the guys off but he's gotta take control in scoring in big games.

[Edited by - nyk8 on 01/23/2004 09:21:02]
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