orangeblobman wrote:

firefly wrote:

firefly wrote:

firefly wrote:

firefly wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

holfresh wrote:
Thats two more wins than other starters can claim on this team...The kid gets a bad rap...not sure why...

yeah, who can imagine why nate gets a bad rap

Wow...sentences flow without the name Lee as the subject...

LOL.. clearly you don't read here very much anymore.

Can you blame me...

so we'll see you in about 10 games when Nate has his next great game.

I'll be reading..awaiting your next rant about Lee...

again, i reiterate my previous post. you always did have a problem with listening and understanding though.

Pretty hard to defend...Before you engaged me you were talking about Lee...Whats hard to understand..You willingly admited you would not be a Knick fan if not for Lee...

LOL holfresh you are a funny dude

Holfresh, I no see you in December, now some struggles, you pop up like alligator in the hammer-the-alligator game at Dave and Busters.

Sorry to interrupt your little tizzy here guys but....... first closk of 2010!!!!

I agree with NYk4ever btw.

Or was it Holfresh?

Gaaaah does it really matter?!?!? Look at meeeee im closkin'

oh, hey firefly. glad to see you were able to safely climb down.

Long live send closk!!!

firefly wrote:We're on the same page TMS, which is why I'm quite pleased with what the coach is doing to him. Nate now has a choice..... Probably the biggest choice of his career. Either play like a professional responsible member of the team, or sit next to Eddy Curry. In hindsight, I also like how he did it. He didnt nag nag nag until Nate, being the child he is complained about his joy being taken away. He sat him. For a looooong time. And now he only plays him big minutes when he plays as part of the team.

If Nate gets the message, we'll have a real baller on our hand. If he doesn't, we'll have him for the good times, and he will polish that pine like a jantor on speed when he goes AWOL.

ROFL... excellent post tho... I agree, and the sad thing with nate is that he has all the ability and skill to be a beast at PG... boy I wish we could transplant steve nash's brain into nates head.. LOL

AnubisADL wrote:

TMS wrote:u can tell it's only a matter of time before Jordan Hill starts knocking down 3's... his range is just about there... gotta love his energy.

Cosmic, still think this kid is disinterested & has a bad attitude?

Do you really want our supposed future center shooting 3's? Sounds like a bad idea to me. He needs to get closer to the rim.

i wouldn't want him planted beyond the 3 like Bender obviously, but having that ability to stretch the floor would be nice... i would love for Jordan Hill to develop into a Rasheed Wallace type player for us, someone who can post up, play off the pick & roll, defend the post, block shots & also step out & knock down a trey if the defense plays off him (without the temper tantrums obviously)... u can't have both Hill & Lee playing in the post anyways, someone's gotta be able to step out & clear the lane for P&R plays to be run, which is the basis for MDA's offensive sets.

TMS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

TMS wrote:u can tell it's only a matter of time before Jordan Hill starts knocking down 3's... his range is just about there... gotta love his energy.

Cosmic, still think this kid is disinterested & has a bad attitude?

Do you really want our supposed future center shooting 3's? Sounds like a bad idea to me. He needs to get closer to the rim.

i wouldn't want him planted beyond the 3 like Bender obviously, but having that ability to stretch the floor would be nice... i would love for Jordan Hill to develop into a Rasheed Wallace type player for us, someone who can post up, play off the pick & roll, defend the post, block shots & also step out & knock down a trey if the defense plays off him (without the temper tantrums obviously)... u can't have both Hill & Lee playing in the post anyways, someone's gotta be able to step out & clear the lane for P&R plays to be run, which is the basis for MDA's offensive sets.

I watch alot of young guys all over the league with my league pass and making jumpers at the top of the key doesnt equate to extending one's range to the 3 point line especially for bigs. Marreese Speights offensive abilities currently surpass Hill's and they are the same age. Jordan is solid but I dont expect him to be stroking 3's anytime soon.

Cosmic wrote:

TMS wrote:u can tell it's only a matter of time before Jordan Hill starts knocking down 3's... his range is just about there... gotta love his energy.

Cosmic, still think this kid is disinterested & has a bad attitude?

He looked the best I've seen him.

TMS, I speak on what I see.... not what I want to see... or expect to see down the line. Know what I mean?

What I have seen of Hill up until last night was disturbing. I can't be the only one.

Yet last night he played very well. The stats might not show it but he had a fire lit under his ass last night for certain.

I give credit where it is due I don't give it out beforehand. I can't say "Oh we picked Hill, he's going to be a super star!" I can't play that nixluva game. Just can't.

Last night he looked good. Despite my opinions I have been saying for some time that he needs to play. No reason he shouldn't be playing. I don't want to hear the "bring him along slowly" bull****. Cause that's what it is. Bull****.

So, well, as I said, Mike either has you in the doghouse or he throws you to the wolves. Well, now we're going to see a heavy dose of Jordan Hill. It should come at the COMPLETE expense of Jared Jeffries though. Don't just work the kid in. GIVE HIM THE SPOT.

NO!!! NAY!!! You gotta keep the kid hungry, keep him striving to get better, to become New Bosh. Can't just give him anything!!!

dodger78 wrote:
Also a thing I really dont understand is, why Nate has not been able to learn how to play the pick n roll effectively like Dudu does. That really is the ONLY thing that Dudu is able to do and that makes him a starter over Nate. His D def. is not better and he is such a bad scorer!!!
Only thing he does waaaay better is play the pnr with DLee...

Very good observation about what Duhon brings to the table that Nate lacks. The Pick and Roll game is all about knowing your teammate's tendency, rhythym, timing, the flow of the game, how the defense is likely to react... all very heady PG stuff... Nate is not a guy out there who "thinks" the game. He just goes out and reacts. Nate is a prototypical Shooting Guard. Just a foot short.

kam77 wrote:

Cosmic wrote:He's not Chris Bosh and never will be. He does not have that kind of talent. As for keeping him hungry, well, that doesn't seem to work, as he was quite fine just sitting on the bench frittering away the time teasing his dreads and biting his nails. rollin blunts and humming bob marley tunes. not that there's anything wrong with it.

Cosmic wrote:He's not Chris Bosh and never will be. He does not have that kind of talent. As for keeping him hungry, well, that doesn't seem to work, as he was quite fine just sitting on the bench frittering away the time teasing his dreads and biting his nails.

Jordan Hill doesn't hunger for anything.

You can't play those types of motivational games with those types of people.

You put him out there to play and if he produces you keep playing him.

after watching him go out & play with energy & show u that he wants to be out there, u still think he's got no hunger & is unmotivated... i don't get that at all... every game i've seen him get action he's played the same way, looked very active on both ends of the floor, doesn't coast & slack off, doesn't stand in 1 spot twiddling his thumbs, he's into every single possession whether he gets the ball passed to him or not... i have no idea where u get the idea he's unmotivated just cuz u saw him not paying attention during a timeout at a time he was getting DNP-CD's on a regular basis... i've also seen him cheering on his teammates during games & being 1 of the first guys off the bench to greet them during runs they make in games... doesn't seem like he's disinterested to me.

& again, i don't see anyone putting him in the same category as the league's past greats... no one is bringing up Larry Bird comparisons here like they did with Gallo, at least not that i'm aware.