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Bippity10
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12/3/2009  3:32 PM
playa2 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
playa2 wrote:What some of you havn't figured in is that most teams when they are up by double digits (19-20 pts)they tend to guard the paint area more than the perimitter. Gallo will always get his points in blowouts...nobody intensively guards the 3 pt area as much, matter fact defense is pretty lax out there.

Now when the game is close and on the line that's a different story. When the knicks had close games dantoni in the past had gallo on the bench...go figure.

Not sure I agree with your assessment. Actually Gallo's problem is that he seems to come out in the first quarter strong and then fades away after that.


Bip...that's the best you can come up wit ? So you disagree with my assessment that teams play lax defense on the perimitter when they are blowing another team out ?

I dont' disagree with your assessment. Teams obviously play poor defense in blowouts. But then you are implying that Gallo scores all his points in the third and fourth quarters when the games are over. That doesn't dispute what I said, that he appears to be plenty productive in the 1st quarters of games when games are still undecided. This may be just my perception but Clyde has mentioned the same thing about 10 or 15 times this year.

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12/3/2009  3:44 PM
playa2 wrote:CMON EVIL YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!

you don't really mean that. haha.

i just posted two examples that i could think of that show gallo contributing late in a close game; just wanted to counter your point that all he does is score late in blowouts. we all know you don't like the pick man.

first, it's a community pick; he's a soft stiff euro.

he shows some talent -- then, he's damaged goods and they knew it because kiki said so.

he nails some threes despite the bad back -- then, all he can do is shoot; just a spot up guy.

he shows some versatility and appears way better on D than anticipated -- then, the back is gonna cause him to shut it down eventually. he can't perform well in back to back games.

he drops 27 and 10 in a win vs. the suns -- then, silence

he drops 20 and 7 in a loss vs. the magic in the second of a back to back -- then, he only scores late in blowouts.

you have bent over backwards to find ways to not like the guy. can't we just simplify things and just say: "PLAYA DOESN'T LIKE GALLO." you don't need a reason. you can just not like him. that happens from time to time and there's nothing wrong with it.

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12/3/2009  3:46 PM
Gallo had already hung 27 points on the SUNS with 18 minutes to play in the game. He's not getting his points in garbage time like Wilson Chandler did last night.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/3/2009  6:25 PM
I notice you didn't comment on the Boston game video not active late in the game after 6 min mark, or the stat line right below it.

I understand as long as he knocks down 3 balls and gets a few hustle reb and blks many will justify that being a top 6 pick in the NBA draft. Ryan Anderson might not be as accurate , but he can consistently knock down 3 balls and was picked I believe 17-18 in the draft (oh he was from Cali).

If he was picked later, I would have like the pick, but he wasn't. I want a guy who's chosen that high in the draft on a piss poor team to be a game changer not just a specialist.

Don't take it personal evil, I would take a gritty athletic (euro)Ginobli and day of the week don't get it twisted man.

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12/3/2009  6:36 PM
playa2 wrote:I notice you didn't comment on the Boston game video not active late in the game after 6 min mark, or the stat line right below it.

I understand as long as he knocks down 3 balls and gets a few hustle reb and blks many will justify that being a top 6 pick in the NBA draft. Ryan Anderson might not be as accurate , but he can consistently knock down 3 balls and was picked I believe 17-18 in the draft (oh he was from Cali).

If he was picked later, I would have like the pick, but he wasn't. I want a guy who's chosen that high in the draft on a piss poor team to be a game changer not just a specialist.

Don't take it personal evil, I would take a gritty athletic (euro)Ginobli and day of the week don't get it twisted man.

gallo has as much or more potential to be a game changer as anyone draft #6 or after in 2008. What other player you want?

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12/3/2009  6:41 PM
There are some grumpy old men on this board.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/3/2009  6:52 PM
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12/3/2009  6:53 PM
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playa2 wrote:CMON EVIL YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!

you don't really mean that. haha.

i just posted two examples that i could think of that show gallo contributing late in a close game; just wanted to counter your point that all he does is score late in blowouts. we all know you don't like the pick man.

first, it's a community pick; he's a soft stiff euro.

he shows some talent -- then, he's damaged goods and they knew it because kiki said so.

he nails some threes despite the bad back -- then, all he can do is shoot; just a spot up guy.

he shows some versatility and appears way better on D than anticipated -- then, the back is gonna cause him to shut it down eventually. he can't perform well in back to back games.

he drops 27 and 10 in a win vs. the suns -- then, silence

he drops 20 and 7 in a loss vs. the magic in the second of a back to back -- then, he only scores late in blowouts.

you have bent over backwards to find ways to not like the guy. can't we just simplify things and just say: "PLAYA DOESN'T LIKE GALLO." you don't need a reason. you can just not like him. that happens from time to time and there's nothing wrong with it.


good post evil... you just ethered playa with this one..... As vin diesel said in boiler room.. Done and Done...

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12/3/2009  7:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2009  7:10 PM
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:I notice you didn't comment on the Boston game video not active late in the game after 6 min mark, or the stat line right below it.

I understand as long as he knocks down 3 balls and gets a few hustle reb and blks many will justify that being a top 6 pick in the NBA draft. Ryan Anderson might not be as accurate , but he can consistently knock down 3 balls and was picked I believe 17-18 in the draft (oh he was from Cali).

If he was picked later, I would have like the pick, but he wasn't. I want a guy who's chosen that high in the draft on a piss poor team to be a game changer not just a specialist.

Don't take it personal evil, I would take a gritty athletic (euro)Ginobli and day of the week don't get it twisted man.

gallo has as much or more potential to be a game changer as anyone draft #6 or after in 2008. What other player you want?

He stands out on the knicks team because we have a bunch of talented keystone cops to compare him to.
You say potential, we needed a sg and pg Gordon and Jennings seem to be doing well better than hill and gallo. Both are game changers

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12/3/2009  7:05 PM
You would've taken Gordon over Lopez?

If not Gallo, then Lopez.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/3/2009  7:08 PM
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playa2 wrote:CMON EVIL YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!

you don't really mean that. haha.

i just posted two examples that i could think of that show gallo contributing late in a close game; just wanted to counter your point that all he does is score late in blowouts. we all know you don't like the pick man.

first, it's a community pick; he's a soft stiff euro.

he shows some talent -- then, he's damaged goods and they knew it because kiki said so.

he nails some threes despite the bad back -- then, all he can do is shoot; just a spot up guy.

he shows some versatility and appears way better on D than anticipated -- then, the back is gonna cause him to shut it down eventually. he can't perform well in back to back games.

he drops 27 and 10 in a win vs. the suns -- then, silence

he drops 20 and 7 in a loss vs. the magic in the second of a back to back -- then, he only scores late in blowouts.

you have bent over backwards to find ways to not like the guy. can't we just simplify things and just say: "PLAYA DOESN'T LIKE GALLO." you don't need a reason. you can just not like him. that happens from time to time and there's nothing wrong with it.

I have the impression that as long as he makes 3's people will forget where he was drafted. This is why this management and team suck right about now .

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/3/2009  7:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2009  7:10 PM
playa2 wrote:
eViL wrote:
playa2 wrote:CMON EVIL YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!

you don't really mean that. haha.

i just posted two examples that i could think of that show gallo contributing late in a close game; just wanted to counter your point that all he does is score late in blowouts. we all know you don't like the pick man.

first, it's a community pick; he's a soft stiff euro.

he shows some talent -- then, he's damaged goods and they knew it because kiki said so.

he nails some threes despite the bad back -- then, all he can do is shoot; just a spot up guy.

he shows some versatility and appears way better on D than anticipated -- then, the back is gonna cause him to shut it down eventually. he can't perform well in back to back games.

he drops 27 and 10 in a win vs. the suns -- then, silence

he drops 20 and 7 in a loss vs. the magic in the second of a back to back -- then, he only scores late in blowouts.

you have bent over backwards to find ways to not like the guy. can't we just simplify things and just say: "PLAYA DOESN'T LIKE GALLO." you don't need a reason. you can just not like him. that happens from time to time and there's nothing wrong with it.

I have the impression that as long as he makes 3's people will forget where he was drafted. This is why this management and team suck right about now .

playa, i say this to you because i think you my UK brotha: but you are wayyyy to harsh on gallo and management. i tell you, no reason to feel this way. please.

you teetering on 'hater'.

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12/3/2009  7:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2009  7:14 PM
kam77 wrote:You would've taken Gordon over Lopez?

If not Gallo, then Lopez.

YES and after his rookie campaign it would have been the right choice (ask Isiah the draft guru)

Kam we needed a pg , sg and Center not PF, why are so many people in denial , this is why i coined the term "Community pick"

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12/3/2009  7:24 PM
playa2 wrote:
kam77 wrote:You would've taken Gordon over Lopez?

If not Gallo, then Lopez.

YES and after his rookie campaign it would have been the right choice (ask Isiah the draft guru)

Kam we needed a pg , sg and Center not PF, why are so many people in denial , this is why i coined the term "Community pick"

You pick Gordan as your game changer?

When the Knicks drafted Gallo, they needed a PG, SG, SF, PF, C, in no particular order. Who is this pf that the Knicks already had that you think is so good?

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12/3/2009  7:32 PM
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
kam77 wrote:You would've taken Gordon over Lopez?

If not Gallo, then Lopez.

YES and after his rookie campaign it would have been the right choice (ask Isiah the draft guru)

Kam we needed a pg , sg and Center not PF, why are so many people in denial , this is why i coined the term "Community pick"

You pick Gordan as your game changer?

When the Knicks drafted Gallo, they needed a PG, SG, SF, PF, C, in no particular order. Who is this pf that the Knicks already had that you think is so good?

David Lee is the best player on the team and he can't play defense and he's a PF.

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12/3/2009  7:34 PM
playa2 wrote:
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
kam77 wrote:You would've taken Gordon over Lopez?

If not Gallo, then Lopez.

YES and after his rookie campaign it would have been the right choice (ask Isiah the draft guru)

Kam we needed a pg , sg and Center not PF, why are so many people in denial , this is why i coined the term "Community pick"

You pick Gordan as your game changer?

When the Knicks drafted Gallo, they needed a PG, SG, SF, PF, C, in no particular order. Who is this pf that the Knicks already had that you think is so good?

David Lee is the best player on the team and he can't play defense and he's a PF.

yes i know. so why you all hot and bothered by picking a PF? it too was a position of need.

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12/3/2009  7:37 PM
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
kam77 wrote:You would've taken Gordon over Lopez?

If not Gallo, then Lopez.

YES and after his rookie campaign it would have been the right choice (ask Isiah the draft guru)

Kam we needed a pg , sg and Center not PF, why are so many people in denial , this is why i coined the term "Community pick"

You pick Gordan as your game changer?

When the Knicks drafted Gallo, they needed a PG, SG, SF, PF, C, in no particular order. Who is this pf that the Knicks already had that you think is so good?

David Lee is the best player on the team and he can't play defense and he's a PF.

yes i know. so why you all hot and bothered by picking a PF? it too was a position of need.

I think it was clear that the player the Knicks really wanted was Russel Westbrook because of his **shock** defensive ability. After that, they went with the player that could potentially fit in with Mike D'Antoni's style the most. I don't see how an undersized PG, who is really a SG fits that style.

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12/3/2009  9:03 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what Playa has against Gallo? The guy is getting better and better as the year is moving along. Gallo hasn't even come close to reaching his ceiling. You say 3pt specialist, but at what point did Kapono or any of the other 3pt specialists ever show a well rounded game? Gallo in fact has a well rounded game. He wasn't supposed to be a good defender at all and it turns out he's much better than anyone thought.

SO far you've keyed in on his offensive attack, but left out all his other skills. We got a player with Skills, Size, Heart and a high BB IQ. What's not to like?

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12/3/2009  9:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2009  9:23 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what Playa has against Gallo? The guy is getting better and better as the year is moving along. Gallo hasn't even come close to reaching his ceiling. You say 3pt specialist, but at what point did Kapono or any of the other 3pt specialists ever show a well rounded game? Gallo in fact has a well rounded game. He wasn't supposed to be a good defender at all and it turns out he's much better than anyone thought.

SO far you've keyed in on his offensive attack, but left out all his other skills. We got a player with Skills, Size, Heart and a high BB IQ. What's not to like?

Nixluva, did you see any of his defensive skills in the video's that we all were privy to before the draft ? We took him for his offense period. I don't hate the kid , he's a gamer but I just didn't like him that high in the draft. Some of you are making me feel as if he was NYC bred and born how you rave about the kid and he's a can't do no wrong 2nd yr guy. If you love him and his game that's cool man, he would be a good six man on a good team, I wouldn't build a team around him. He's a good piece though. I just wanted a floor leader or a lead guard 1st and then a guy to man the middle and go from there.

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12/3/2009  9:43 PM
playa2 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what Playa has against Gallo? The guy is getting better and better as the year is moving along. Gallo hasn't even come close to reaching his ceiling. You say 3pt specialist, but at what point did Kapono or any of the other 3pt specialists ever show a well rounded game? Gallo in fact has a well rounded game. He wasn't supposed to be a good defender at all and it turns out he's much better than anyone thought.

SO far you've keyed in on his offensive attack, but left out all his other skills. We got a player with Skills, Size, Heart and a high BB IQ. What's not to like?

Nixluva, did you see any of his defensive skills in the video's that we all were privy to before the draft ? We took him for his offense period. I don't hate the kid , he's a gamer but I just didn't like him that high in the draft. Some of you are making me feel as if he was NYC bred and born how you rave about the kid and he's a can't do no wrong 2nd yr guy. If you love him and his game that's cool man, he would be a good six man on a good team, I wouldn't build a team around him. He's a good piece though. I just wanted a floor leader or a lead guard 1st and then a guy to man the middle and go from there.

who did you want at 6 then for a floor leader or lead guard?

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