Why would he leave Eisley in the game for so long? I dont understand how he thinks Eisley is helping us? He says one good game one bad game from Frank is unacceptable but 1 mediocre game 3 bad games from Eisley still keep the starting spot open for him.

Posted by gunsnewing:

We didn't loss because of a lack of a low post presense on offense, we lost because our Defense in the paint STINKS!! and why, because Mutombo was benched as always!

Yea, that and him playing a completely defensive p=lineup with Frank Williams at one point. Luckily Shandon picked it up and gave us some good baskets.

If dice can stay healthy and his legs keep getting stronger then I think in about 20 games the Knicks will have good interior D. I'm not sure if Motumbo can run for 35 minutes a night - but if and when dice is moving better I think our D will greatly improve.

I still think this team has some talent - but they've dug such a huge whole. It's too bad because the East is weak.

i like the things that Playa2 is saying. Just stick with this perspective now. Once Chaney is gone the knicks will be alright : )

All that is true GoNy. playa did change his chaney love but isnt that a good thing? And he's gotta admit that spree schooled us tonite. But Chaney was the biggest reason why we lost this game. The most aggravating part was watching him take Houston out after he hit 2 in a row or not going to KVH in the post when he got to hoop so easily.

He did stuff like that all game long. We could'e built a nice 8 point lead and Spree's 3 would've made it a 5 or 3 points game but Chaney's sub patters and play callign didn't let it happen. I seriously believe that.

Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Eisely went 2 for 9 from the field. That is not playing well by any stretch of the imagination. But thats besides the point, its the feeling you get with him on the court. He is so unproductive. IF Frank had started and if Deke was in late we would've had a great chance tonight.

tell gony and briggs , becuz they are blind and only look to put down the knicks whenever possible. bad subs pattern lost this game

Holy COW!!!!!!

You are a piece of work. I hope everyone can see you for what you are now.

1. Who was it me or you, that has been calling for Chaney's head since Jan 2002? (ME)

2. Who was it that started this thread or another one like it, saying Spree would bomb tonight? (YOU) Who was it that was wrong about that? (YOU)

3. Who is it that refuses to ever admit when he is wrong, will never answer questions directly and continually changes his position? (YOU)

NY lost tonight because they do not have fire. Some of this comes from the coach. The rest from the players. Chaney does not inspire this team. He never has and never will. He has ALWAYS subbed poorly. Tonight was more a matter of heart than it was subbing, you fool. the fact that FWILL should be playing more is obvious, I said it last year and before this season started! For that matter Lampe and Swwets should play too. They are 10-19!!!!

YOu must be a politician. No one can change their position so much and still try to fake that they have been there all along.

classic, lol

Has he earned it? No. Would I start him - maybe. He is clearly the only point guard that has the potential to get better.

He really hasn't been that good. Maybe 6 good quarters all year. But he also hasn't been given much of a chance.

I think most of the folks on the board see him with Rose Colored glasses. They magnify everything he does well and overlook everything he does badly.

They do the opposite for Ward and Eisley. Eisley game I don't like but I still say he's Ok as a second string guard. I like Ward he's tough and in the past he's made the Knicks a better team - last year he had the best +/- on the team. Maybe he's not starting because his knees are too shot to play much I don't know.

PG is about consistency. F.W. has not been consistent and one thing to remember was he wasn't consistent in college either. But hey let him play and lets see what happens.

Posted by Silverfuel:

All that is true GoNy. playa did change his chaney love but isnt that a good thing? And he's gotta admit that spree schooled us tonite. But Chaney was the biggest reason why we lost this game. The most aggravating part was watching him take Houston out after he hit 2 in a row or not going to KVH in the post when he got to hoop so easily.

He did stuff like that all game long. We could'e built a nice 8 point lead and Spree's 3 would've made it a 5 or 3 points game but Chaney's sub patters and play callign didn't let it happen. I seriously believe that.

I hear you about chaney. He has lost NY about 5 games this year with his in game coaching. He has lost another few with his team and game preparation. The man is overmatched, no doubt. And that stupid look he gets on his face, just ices it for me.

As for playa, I have known this clown on forums for about 4 years now and he is just ridiculous. He is now trying to worm his way into being anti-Chaney when he was the biggest Chaney supporter for the last 2 years. he also supported Layden. NOw all of a sudden he is talking like he has not like Chaney all along? Please. Yes it is good he is seeing the light, but he needs to say that he has changed his mind and be up front about it to get some respect from me. I have seen him change his tune too often. For instance after we beat Atlanta the other night, he was saying how this team , led by Chaney would make the playoffs! Come on now. Arguments need to have some substance, otherwise what is the point. This guy has no substance.

The lost tonight, IMO, was due to the usual Chaney mistakes, dumb subbing, dumb starting lineup and dumb looks on his face!

Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

And that stupid look he gets on his face, just ices it for me.

The lost tonight, IMO, was due to the usual Chaney mistakes, dumb subbing, dumb starting lineup and dumb looks on his face!

ROFLMAO

i dont get why they think frank hasn't proven himself yet. As long as he doesn't shoot and only pentrates and lays it in or dishes our offense runs great!

Im not basing it on numbers, that is why i think our arguement is the right one. I'm basing it on the way the offense looks when he's in the game.

look how many times frank penetrates and gives guys good perimeter chances instead of eisely standing around andeither handing the ball of or chucking 3's.