Posted by VDesai:

Duhon was masterful tonight- Lee really should've had 40 (as D'Antoni said in the postgame). Harrington finally played more under control and had some great moments. They had a bad team across the aisle, but they played good basketball today.

Sorry, don't mean to correct you, but MDA said Lee should have had 50

Actually I am not implying anything. I am saying straight out that Crawford has a negative efect on the play of any team he is opn.

yeah, so u just proved my point here... u'r oversimplifying things here just cuz u don't particularly care for Jamal as an NBA player... blaming an entire loss on the guy when his entire team was playing zero defense last night is oversimplifying.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by BRIGGS:

5 games since the trade

David Lee avg 20.1 14.6 rebounds 57% shooting--that is maximum contract type production

Too bad maximum contracts aren't give from 5 games of production. Oh wait, they are. Jerome James got the max MLE for Isiah for a playoff series.

that is why jerome james is a walking talking example of what some of you call "basketball IQ."

I didn't see the game, but looking at those clips, it's true GS played no D, but I relly like the way Duhon leads players to the rim with his passes. it's very promising for what he may be able to do after he really gets to know where players like the ball.

I keep hearing how Marbury is twice the player Duhon is, but I never found Marbury to be a good playmaker. The only player he's shown good on-court chemistry with since KVH (who he had traded) is Lee. Never with Jamal, Zach, Curry, Nate, Balkman, Ariza, TT. Marbury was never ahead of the offense, his style was always to lull both teams to sleep with dribbling, then catch them off guard. He could never run a motion offense, you need to be able to think 4 or 5 moves in advance and Marbury could never think more than one move at a time. His entire arsenal consisted of two one-move plays: pick n' roll, or drive n' dish.

Once upon a time Marbury was certainly a better scorer than Duhon, but he stifled the offense in the process. His offensive arsenal was even less diverse than his playmaking: dribble around at the top of the key until your opponent (an own team) grows bored and then drive down the right side of the lane for a layup or foul. At this stage ofthegame, when he's no longer allowed to dribble to his hearts content, and is no longer fast or has lift, I'm not even sure he's a better scorer than Duhon.

These last few years he's also suffered knee and ankle injuries, and that's at reduced minutes, so I'd expect him to be far less durable than Duhon with the rigors of this sytem and extended minutes.

Defensively Duhon is much more consistent. Under LB Marbury would play D every once in a while, but doing so burned his knees out by February '06 and we haven't seen much D since.

Leadership and coachability are incomparable as Duhon shows a lot and Marbury is negative. Marbury actually leads teams into the gutter.

Great promise shown by Duhon. At this stage of their careers Duhon is a better, more versatile and durable PG in every facet I can imagine.

Posted by BlueSeats:

I didn't see the game, but looking at those clips, it's true GS played no D, but I relly like the way Duhon leads players to the rim with his passes. it's very promising for what he may be able to do after he really gets to know where players like the ball.

I keep hearing how Marbury is twice the player Duhon is, but I never found Marbury to be a good playmaker. The only player he's shown good on-court chemistry with since KVH (who he had traded) is Lee. Never with Jamal, Zach, Curry, Nate, Balkman, Ariza, TT. Marbury was never ahead of the offense, his style was always to lull both teams to sleep with dribbling, then catch them off guard. He could never run a motion offense, you need to be able to think 4 or 5 moves in advance and Marbury could never think more than one move at a time. His entire arsenal consisted of two one-move plays: pick n' roll, or drive n' dish.

Once upon a time Marbury was certainly a better scorer than Duhon, but he stifled the offense in the process. His offensive arsenal was even less diverse than his playmaking: dribble around at the top of the key until your opponent (an own team) grows bored and then drive down the right side of the lane for a layup or foul. At this stage ofthegame, when he's no longer allowed to dribble to his hearts content, and is no longer fast or has lift, I'm not even sure he's a better scorer than Duhon.

These last few years he's also suffered knee and ankle injuries, and that's at reduced minutes, so I'd expect him to be far less durable than Duhon with the rigors of this sytem and extended minutes.

Defensively Duhon is much more consistent. Under LB Marbury would play D every once in a while, but doing so burned his knees out by February '06 and we haven't seen much D since.

Leadership and coachability are incomparable as Duhon shows a lot and Marbury is negative. Marbury actually leads teams into the gutter.

Great promise shown by Duhon. At this stage of their careers Duhon is a better, more versatile and durable PG in every facet I can imagine.

good post blueseats and we have been through this before, and it has become more evident how marbury has regressed as a player both mentally and physically.. One thing D'antoni said about duhon is that he has an endless motor. Watch nash and they are similar in that aspect, they never seem to tire, but they also don't waste a lot of energy on offense trying to score, but running an offense.. In the end, they are more, efficient players..

[Edited by - tkf on 30-11-2008 9:04 PM]