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11/21/2008  12:34 PM
Posted by Elite:

do we start Nate at SG??? I would like that even though he is Small

Who comes off the bench then? Part of the reason the Knicks are better then they've been is because Nate destroys the other teams second unit.
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11/21/2008  12:37 PM
oh ok thanks guys, so its 2 seperate deals. Honestly if Donnie pulls this off this would be one of the best days as a knick fan in almost 10 years

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11/21/2008  12:39 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Elite:

do we start Nate at SG??? I would like that even though he is Small

Who comes off the bench then? Part of the reason the Knicks are better then they've been is because Nate destroys the other teams second unit.

Q-Rich starts. Nate may see his minutes increased.
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11/21/2008  12:39 PM
Posted by Elite:

why do we have to include Collins? That pisses me off. That would mean we have to start playing Marbury no?

I wonder if we could possibly waive TT and pick up PEJ.. that would make this easier to swallow

Are you kidding me? Collins sucks. After Malik , Collins is the player I hate seeing play. He is over-rated at defense, can't dribble, no shot and can't finish. Besides that he is good.
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11/21/2008  12:40 PM
ESPN confirms: Crawford for Harrington agreed to in principle. No other players involved so far.

Warriors, Knicks agree in principle on Crawford-Harrington deal

By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
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Updated: November 21, 2008, 12:36 PM ET


The Golden State Warriors and New York Knicks have agreed in principle on a deal that would swap disgruntled Warriors forward Al Harrington for Knicks guard Jamal Crawford.


ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reported early Friday that the teams were nearing completion on a deal featuring Harrington and Crawford. ESPN.com has since confirmed that those two players, barring a late adjustment, would be the only two involved in the trade.


Although neither team has yet commented on the deal, sources said both clubs were hoping to reach the conference-call stage to secure the required league approval by the day's end on Friday.

Harrington went public with a trade demand just before the start of the season after privately urging Golden State to move him for months. New York had immediate interest, seeing the versatile and mobile Harrington as an ideal frontcourt fit in new coach Mike D'Antoni's up-tempo system.
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Knicks president Donnie Walsh, furthermore, might be Harrington's biggest fan in the league; he drafted the 28-year-old in 1998 and brought him back to Indiana in a deal with Atlanta in the summer of 2006. But Harrington's second stint with the Pacers lasted only a half-season before he was dealt to Golden State in January 2007, along with Stephen Jackson.

Reuniting with Harrington will come at a cost for Walsh: It will require the Knicks to part with Crawford, their leading scorer and another player they had pegged to flourish under D'Antoni. The Warriors, according to NBA front-office sources, see Crawford as a versatile guard who, although not a pure floor leader, can function well in coach Don Nelson's system while Monta Ellis recovers from ankle surgery -- and in tandem with Ellis once he returns.

Yet it's believed that Walsh has multiple motivations for re-acquiring one of his favorites. Another sizable lure is Harrington's contract, which pays him $9.2 million this season, $10 million next season and expires after the 2009-10 campaign. That meshes with New York's intent to slice payroll and get as far under the salary cap as possible for the highly anticipated free-agent summer of 2010 to join the bidding for Cleveland's LeBron James.

Crawford is scoring 19.6 points per game this season after averaging a career-best 20.6 points per game and 5.0 assists last season. Assuming Crawford declines a player option to become a free agent in July 2009, his deal would run through the 2010-11 season, paying $8.6 million this season, $9.4 million in 2009-10 and $10 million in 2010-11.

Harrington has played only five games this season, averaging 12.4 points and 5.6 rebounds before missing Golden State's past six games with a back injury. Nelson told ESPN.com on the first weekend of the season that the Warriors would "try to accommodate" Harrington, but not when the Knicks were looking to part with center Eddy Curry as opposed to Crawford.


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11/21/2008  12:43 PM
This is all about salary cap. Zach is going next.
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11/21/2008  12:44 PM
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/knicks/archives/2008/11/itll_be_harring.html
It'll be Harrington for Crawford
By MARC BERMAN

MILWAUKEE - Knicks president Donnie Walsh is within hours of announcing a deal for Al Harrington that is expected to include Jamal Crawford in a move geared more to getting under the salary cap for 2010 than to help the present.

Crawford, told by his agent, Aaron Goodwin Thursday night he could be moved in a trade today with Golden State, has a contract that extends to 2011. Goodwin told The Post this morning the Warriors want Crawford the most. Crawford attended the morning shootaround.

Mike D'Antoni indicated at the morning shootaround a deal was in the works that would have salary-cap implications. There's also been talks of the Knicks then moving Zach Randolph to the Clippers, who tired to trade to for the Knicks forward in July. If Randolph is also moved, the Knicks would be in great position to get under the cap. The Clippers would send Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley in that second trade. Randolph's deal also extends to 2011.

"Donnie's plan is pretty clear that in a couple of years we'll be under the cap,'' D'Antoni said. "Everything we do will lead us to the possibility of being under the cap in two years. Then I'll deal with making sure the team is competitive. We're not going to compromise our future because we might take a half-step back.''

The Post's Pete Vecsey first reported the Knicks had struck a deal for Harrington in today's editions, with initial indications Malik Rose could be involved. But giving up Rose would not help the Knicks in their goal of moving under the cap in 2010 for the brilliant free-agent class headed by LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Amare Stoudemire.

"Everybody's anxious to see what happens,'' D'Antoni said in Milwaukee. "But we're going to have to cool our heels to see what happens. We're in limbo.''

When asked if the roster will be the same tonight vs. the Bucks, D'Antoni said, "Probably not.'' D'Antoni added, "I think this will happen a few times a year. Donnie's got his plan and he'll execute it as he sees fit.''
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11/21/2008  12:45 PM
^ That blog has some interesting quotes from D'Antoni
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11/21/2008  12:47 PM
Wow, some awesome quotes from MDA there
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11/21/2008  12:47 PM
insane!!!!....

If the Knicks are trading Craw....they are definately getting Cuttino Mobley....or.....can the Knicks please get Anthony Morrow?!?!?!?! from GS?
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11/21/2008  12:48 PM
I think Jamal had a feeling before Boston game.
He was already somewhere else in his mind.

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11/21/2008  12:49 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

insane!!!!....

If the Knicks are trading Craw....they are definately getting Cuttino Mobley....or.....can the Knicks please get Anthony Morrow?!?!?!?! from GS?

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11/21/2008  12:49 PM
Are you getting the feeling of the era end...?
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11/21/2008  12:50 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

insane!!!!....

If the Knicks are trading Craw....they are definately getting Cuttino Mobley....or.....can the Knicks please get Anthony Morrow?!?!?!?! from GS?

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11/21/2008  12:50 PM
So with Crawford to the Warriors just about official (pending what, league approval?)

Will the second shoe drop today???? Or will this one drag out.
The New York Post is reporting that Jamal Crawford will be traded to the Warriors in exchange for Al Harrington.

The Clippers will also reportedly send Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley to the Knicks for Zach Randolph.
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11/21/2008  12:50 PM
does marbury finally get off the bench? Does he dress?
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11/21/2008  12:51 PM
Marbury will never play another game in a knicks uniform
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11/21/2008  12:51 PM
Posted by arkrud:

I think Jamal had a feeling before Boston game.
He was already somewhere else in his mind.

Crawford is always somewhere else in his mind.

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11/21/2008  12:52 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

So with Crawford to the Warriors just about official (pending what, league approval?)

Will the second shoe drop today???? Or will this one drag out.
The New York Post is reporting that Jamal Crawford will be traded to the Warriors in exchange for Al Harrington.

The Clippers will also reportedly send Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley to the Knicks for Zach Randolph.

if it drags out it'll definitely be a distraction to the team
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11/21/2008  12:53 PM
Posted by Elite:

do we start Nate at SG??? I would like that even though he is Small

Staaaaar-Berry!

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