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BRIGGS
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11/8/2008  9:26 AM
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:
Originally posted by BRIGGS:

I hope Gallinari is not a bust. I wonder why all of these so-called young college players are getting in and making nice contributions right away and our guy who is supposedly a Euro league all star is not good enough to play in a fast paced system?

you were jocking Jerryd Bayless all summer league on his way to the summer league MVP, & now he's putting up a mindblowing 1.5 ppg & half an assist in just over 10 mpg.

another one of your "why didn't we take this guy instead" picks, Joe Alexander, is averaging a mindblowing 0.0 ppg / 1.5 rpg in 2 games where he averaged 5 minutes.

Anthony Randolph, who was on your infamous top 5 list all summer long right up to the draft & a guy you labelled as a "can't miss prospect", has played a grand total of 1 minute in the NBA & hasn't even taken a shot yet or grabbed a rebound.

another prospect u were very high on, DeAndre Jordan, has only played 3 minutes & scored 1 basket so far this season.

Eric Gordon, 2 points in 5 mpg this year.

Chris Douglas-Roberts, 1.3 pts / 1.7 assists in almost 12 mpg.


so now you're worrying if Gallo might be a bust, what about those guys? oh I forgot, u already proclaimed Gallo a bust before training camp even started.

[Edited by - TMS on 11-08-2008 05:46 AM]

This was a good draft but I wanted the Knicks to get Mcgee and Randolph--I think I made that pretty clear. Bayless was more of a safe pick that wouldve been good for this style of play.

& again i'll point out that Randolph has yet to do anything in the NBA, but you're already wondering of Gallo's a bust even though the reason he hasn't been playing is due to him still recovering from that injury he sustained in summer leagues... so what makes u think Gallo's a bust already but Randolph isn't?

If the guy is hurt he is hurt. If the guy isnt getting PT because he scks that s another story. Supposedly Gallinari is NBA ready--guys like Mcgee and Randolph[who was SL MVP] arent *as ready* in body or game--supposedly. It's way to early to judge anyone--notice I said I hope that Gallinari is not a bust which is much different than saying he is a bust.
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11/8/2008  9:47 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:
Originally posted by BRIGGS:

I hope Gallinari is not a bust. I wonder why all of these so-called young college players are getting in and making nice contributions right away and our guy who is supposedly a Euro league all star is not good enough to play in a fast paced system?

you were jocking Jerryd Bayless all summer league on his way to the summer league MVP, & now he's putting up a mindblowing 1.5 ppg & half an assist in just over 10 mpg.

another one of your "why didn't we take this guy instead" picks, Joe Alexander, is averaging a mindblowing 0.0 ppg / 1.5 rpg in 2 games where he averaged 5 minutes.

Anthony Randolph, who was on your infamous top 5 list all summer long right up to the draft & a guy you labelled as a "can't miss prospect", has played a grand total of 1 minute in the NBA & hasn't even taken a shot yet or grabbed a rebound.

another prospect u were very high on, DeAndre Jordan, has only played 3 minutes & scored 1 basket so far this season.

Eric Gordon, 2 points in 5 mpg this year.

Chris Douglas-Roberts, 1.3 pts / 1.7 assists in almost 12 mpg.


so now you're worrying if Gallo might be a bust, what about those guys? oh I forgot, u already proclaimed Gallo a bust before training camp even started.

[Edited by - TMS on 11-08-2008 05:46 AM]

This was a good draft but I wanted the Knicks to get Mcgee and Randolph--I think I made that pretty clear. Bayless was more of a safe pick that wouldve been good for this style of play.

& again i'll point out that Randolph has yet to do anything in the NBA, but you're already wondering of Gallo's a bust even though the reason he hasn't been playing is due to him still recovering from that injury he sustained in summer leagues... so what makes u think Gallo's a bust already but Randolph isn't?

If the guy is hurt he is hurt. If the guy isnt getting PT because he scks that s another story. Supposedly Gallinari is NBA ready--guys like Mcgee and Randolph[who was SL MVP] arent *as ready* in body or game--supposedly. It's way to early to judge anyone--notice I said I hope that Gallinari is not a bust which is much different than saying he is a bust.

Ditto, me included. We've all gotta be patient, especially when he does finally get a run because he won't look too good at first. There's gonna be a period where he'll be getting the rust off and it probably won't be pretty. Still think he'll be a good one - he's got a lot of skill in what looks like a legit 6'10" body (seeing him standing next to Lee a few times in the huddle, he's noticibly taller than Lee). Calling him a bust is way too premature, missing all the time since the beginning of the summer league. Speaking of the summer league, he hardly looked like a bust to me in that 14 pt. explosion he had against the Cavs before he tweaked the back. Jumper was money, the big putback dunk off the Collins miss...looked good to me. And if that's not enough of a sample for some people, go to youtube and check out the big 10+ min. clip of this kid that's out there. My mouth waters everytime a see that clip. The latest comments from D'Antoni are encouraging - he verified that he's putting in extra work after practice, extra running, and said he's 'ready to go' from a skill standpoint (high praise, we all know he knows talent and his team needs help). Only thing is he also said that the pace is a little too quick for him right now - a little strange considering D'Antoni wants to push the ball and play quick, but I guess you can take that with a grain of salt as in Gallo just needs to catch up to the pace his coach wants to play, not vice versa. Understandable. Makes sense.... He's close and even though he wasn't my guy in the draft (I wanted Bayless all the way---I just didn't know anything about Gallinari, few did), it's quite obvious that he can play. We all need to relax and be patient with him...


[Edited by - finestrg on 11-08-2008 09:56 AM]
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11/8/2008  9:56 AM
Supposedly Gallinari is NBA ready--guys like Mcgee and Randolph[who was SL MVP] arent *as ready* in body or game--supposedly. It's way to early to judge anyone

http://www.hoopsfantasy.com/jerryd-bayless-nba-vegas-summer-league-mvp/
Jerryd Bayless, the soon to be rookie guard for the Portland Trail Blazers, was named the MVP of the NBA Summer League held in Las Vegas.

& again, if u know it's too early to judge anyone then why even bother raising the question of whether or not Gallo's a bust based on his very limited action so far this season? i just pointed out a buncha examples of other highly touted rooks that haven't done squat yet in the NBA either... i don't see u questioning any of those guys... so far the only real impact rooks in the NBA this year have been Rose, Beasely, Kevin Love, Mayo & Marc Gasol... the first 4 guys were no brainers & Gasol was a guy that just about everyone here including you called garbage when the trade was made that landed his brother in LA... don't u ever get tired of making premature predictions?

[Edited by - TMS on 11-08-2008 07:03 AM]
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11/8/2008  11:17 AM
Posted by TMS:
Supposedly Gallinari is NBA ready--guys like Mcgee and Randolph[who was SL MVP] arent *as ready* in body or game--supposedly. It's way to early to judge anyone

http://www.hoopsfantasy.com/jerryd-bayless-nba-vegas-summer-league-mvp/
Jerryd Bayless, the soon to be rookie guard for the Portland Trail Blazers, was named the MVP of the NBA Summer League held in Las Vegas.

& again, if u know it's too early to judge anyone then why even bother raising the question of whether or not Gallo's a bust based on his very limited action so far this season? i just pointed out a buncha examples of other highly touted rooks that haven't done squat yet in the NBA either... i don't see u questioning any of those guys... so far the only real impact rooks in the NBA this year have been Rose, Beasely, Kevin Love, Mayo & Marc Gasol... the first 4 guys were no brainers & Gasol was a guy that just about everyone here including you called garbage when the trade was made that landed his brother in LA... don't u ever get tired of making premature predictions?

[Edited by - TMS on 11-08-2008 07:03 AM]

Where did I call Gallinari a bust? You are making this up in your own mind.
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11/8/2008  12:03 PM
Posted by TMS:
Originally posted by BRIGGS:

I hope Gallinari is not a bust. I wonder why all of these so-called young college players are getting in and making nice contributions right away and our guy who is supposedly a Euro league all star is not good enough to play in a fast paced system?

you were jocking Jerryd Bayless all summer league on his way to the summer league MVP, & now he's putting up a mindblowing 1.5 ppg & half an assist in just over 10 mpg.

another one of your "why didn't we take this guy instead" picks, Joe Alexander, is averaging a mindblowing 0.0 ppg / 1.5 rpg in 2 games where he averaged 5 minutes.

Anthony Randolph, who was on your infamous top 5 list all summer long right up to the draft & a guy you labelled as a "can't miss prospect", has played a grand total of 1 minute in the NBA & hasn't even taken a shot yet or grabbed a rebound.

another prospect u were very high on, DeAndre Jordan, has only played 3 minutes & scored 1 basket so far this season.

Eric Gordon, 2 points in 5 mpg this year.

Chris Douglas-Roberts, 1.3 pts / 1.7 assists in almost 12 mpg.


so now you're worrying if Gallo might be a bust, what about those guys? oh I forgot, u already proclaimed Gallo a bust before training camp even started.

[Edited by - TMS on 11-08-2008 05:46 AM]


good post, and what briggs didn't mention is that gallo didn't play ball for almost 3 months. He is just not in game shape...Speaking of Anthony randolph, he did play last night. He hit some jumpers, blocked a couple of shots, the kid looks like he might be a good player down the road. A very good one.. But again, I can't judge gallo until he plays..
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11/8/2008  1:17 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:
Supposedly Gallinari is NBA ready--guys like Mcgee and Randolph[who was SL MVP] arent *as ready* in body or game--supposedly. It's way to early to judge anyone

http://www.hoopsfantasy.com/jerryd-bayless-nba-vegas-summer-league-mvp/
Jerryd Bayless, the soon to be rookie guard for the Portland Trail Blazers, was named the MVP of the NBA Summer League held in Las Vegas.

& again, if u know it's too early to judge anyone then why even bother raising the question of whether or not Gallo's a bust based on his very limited action so far this season? i just pointed out a buncha examples of other highly touted rooks that haven't done squat yet in the NBA either... i don't see u questioning any of those guys... so far the only real impact rooks in the NBA this year have been Rose, Beasely, Kevin Love, Mayo & Marc Gasol... the first 4 guys were no brainers & Gasol was a guy that just about everyone here including you called garbage when the trade was made that landed his brother in LA... don't u ever get tired of making premature predictions?

[Edited by - TMS on 11-08-2008 07:03 AM]

Where did I call Gallinari a bust? You are making this up in your own mind.

oh please dude... u were predicting him to be the next Boki Nachbar all summer long... don't even try to deny it... that's not calling him a bust?
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11/8/2008  3:31 PM
Why is there something new every week with this issue of him playing.

1) He couldn't play in SL because he hurt his back because of Tractor Taylor.
2) He couldn't participate in training camp because of his back slowly healing and pain because he had a buldging disc because he didn't have a break all year.
3) He is 90% healthy and ready to play in the pre-season because hey he is doing his drills and working out with the team but he has to earn his spot. But we won't talk about a rotation spot for him.
4) After benching Marbury for going with the future, Gallinari gets in and has a below than average debut (others have called it 3 minutes of special), now the story is he is rusty for not playing in 3 months after indicating there was no issue that should have keep away from playing basketball.
5) Then there was D'Antoni talking about sending him to the NBADL because he isn't NBA ready. Really? What rookie is rarely NBA ready? Hell Patrick Ewing said he had to get used to it but Hubie didn't bench him because he wasn't. Then was this talk that Walsh wanted to keep close to monitor a back issue that supposely was not an issue.
6) Now we get he is not only rusty but still not pain free and is not ready.

How did we get here? What player isn't rusty after the off season? What's up with all these excuses, this team had a 23 win record last sesaon. So now Roberson has his "feet" because he played in 3 more SL games and participated in 4 more contact drills than Gallinari and that warrants playing time for him over Gallinari? I will give the supporters of this pick the benefit of doubt that it is too early to call him a bust but the franchise is going out of his way to make sure to project a bust image for him.
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