But if they send us a player, even in the last year of his contract, then no exemption, right?

Posted by SticksnStones:

Posted by Knicksfan:

But if they send us a player, even in the last year of his contract, then no exemption, right?

Not necessarily. If they send back Tim Thomas and a 2nd rounder then the difference between Zach's and Fugazy's salary generates a TE for us. It's all about Mathematics.

Yeah but a substantially smaller TE.

Posted by Andrew:

FYI, Clips have shut down Gordon for the rest of the summer league with a strained hamstring. Speculate away.

The thought crossed my mind. However, leaving a game with 8 mins in the 4th quarter is a lot different than a mystery injury that occurs out of the public eye. Somebody should have seen him limp off the court...

Cliperrs will never give away Jordan or Gordon. Clippers had a very good draft when all is said and done--I don't see them as desperate for Zach randolph--if there was a possibility to move to a resticted number 1 pick in 2010--they shouldve gone for it. When you walk away from fluid talks--anything can happen--the Clippers can simply go in a different direction and we lose a trading partner who wouldve helped us start to acheive a primary goal in a big time way. I do not believe the market for Zach Randolph is very big

OR maybe he's really injured. It could happen!!!

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Wasn't this explanation given in the reported Philly deal with Zach?

When the trade exception was brought up in the Philly deal. I didn't know the Knicks earned the exception because they took back less salary in the deal. I thought Philly just had a trade exception that they were willing to offer the knicks in the deal or something like that. I didn't understand the rules of the trade exception until I read someone say something to this nature on realgm.

BTW why the change in name Trueblue? Don't tell me you let the guys get to you to the point that you needed to change your screen name. You don't have to prove anything to anybody man nor do you have to care what anyone thinks bout you bro'ham.

Shh... You are not allowed to reveal secret identities. The mods could be watching.

LOL BUSTED!

Zach makes a lot of money.

Last year he was good for 18/10/46%. He was not a distraction. He did have problems with teammates. His biggest transgression was griping about the boos. If I am a new GM I not looking to drop a guy that gives me that kind of production for nothing. People here see Zach as just another Isiah appendage that needs to be surgically removed by any way possible. That just doesnt make sense

Posted by fishmike:

Zach makes a lot of money.

Last year he was good for 18/10/46%. He was not a distraction. He did have problems with teammates. His biggest transgression was griping about the boos. If I am a new GM I not looking to drop a guy that gives me that kind of production for nothing. People here see Zach as just another Isiah appendage that needs to be surgically removed by any way possible. That just doesnt make sense

Zach plays no defense, has a tendency to jack up shots, and is not going to be a factor on the fast break. I agree he has talent, but unless you see him as our long-term solution at the PF spot, we should trade him now. Getting Jordan and a 2nd round pick is more in return than what we gave up to get him IMO. Otherwise, you are taking the chance the new coach can up his trade value. Maybe you take that risk, but if it does not work out, we are going to be stuck with Zach for a couple more years. The Clippers are a unique opportunity because you have a team with cap space that has a specific need for a scoring PF. THere is no guarantee that opportunity is going to be there next year. Simply stated, I agree we should not give up Zach for nothing, but I think Jordan is a solid prospect at the center position and should at least provide us with a shot-blocker in 2-3 years. SO this moves builds our team for the future.

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by fishmike:

Zach makes a lot of money.

Last year he was good for 18/10/46%. He was not a distraction. He did have problems with teammates. His biggest transgression was griping about the boos. If I am a new GM I not looking to drop a guy that gives me that kind of production for nothing. People here see Zach as just another Isiah appendage that needs to be surgically removed by any way possible. That just doesnt make sense

Zach plays no defense, has a tendency to jack up shots, and is not going to be a factor on the fast break. I agree he has talent, but unless you see him as our long-term solution at the PF spot, we should trade him now. Getting Jordan and a 2nd round pick is more in return than what we gave up to get him IMO. Otherwise, you are taking the chance the new coach can up his trade value. Maybe you take that risk, but if it does not work out, we are going to be stuck with Zach for a couple more years. The Clippers are a unique opportunity because you have a team with cap space that has a specific need for a scoring PF. THere is no guarantee that opportunity is going to be there next year. Simply stated, I agree we should not give up Zach for nothing, but I think Jordan is a solid prospect at the center position and should at least provide us with a shot-blocker in 2-3 years. SO this moves builds our team for the future.

he didnt play defense last year but he has been better in the past. I would never say he's been a good man to man defender, but one thing he certainly does is rebound on both ends. He cleans the glass and that is certainly part of defending.

And yes.. he chucked last year, but there was virtually no offense run. When players had the ball in their hands they looked to shoot. That was pretty much every guy.

Zach is not a nice man, but he's not the anti christ either. He also bring some very high level skills to the table. He is an elite rebounder and has a great mid range game to compliment his post moves. IMO its utter folly to let this guy go for nothing without seeing what he can do for DAntoni.

Part of the reason we are in the position we are is because we always bought high and sold low. I am all for the wait and see w/ Zach. Wait until the Clippers swing and miss on every other bigman first.