Let the trash talk begin.

Red Rooster >>>> Yi.

Posted by Ira:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Ira:

Rod Thorn was interviewed by Francessa. When asked about Gallinari, he said
1) He handles the ball well.
2) Good outside shot
3) Tough kid.
4) Played in a good Italian league and dominated. He was the best player in Italy.

did he sound like he wanted to draft him or was he just asked a question?

Francessa asked him how he felt about DG. He didn't say anything about trading up, but he wouldn't. He did sound sincere, but as islesfan said, he's a pro and he's been dealing with the media for a long time. I posted those points because they are very consistent with what others have been saying about DG. So, while we haven't seen him play, we're getting a pretty good idea of his strengths and weaknesses.

What does the best player in Italy mean? Any comps?

Posted by VDesai:

Wasn't Kukoc a legend in the Italian league? Haven't a lot of people who watched him over there compared him to Kukoc? Did Kukoc suck? Does Gallinari have a skill set similar to Toni's?

I think Gallinari's crossover is way better than Kukoc's. I can see this guy shaking 4s out on the perimeter. He needs to improve his outside shot though.

imho, gallinari won't be a bust.

nobody is a bust w/ d'antoni's system. everyone will score. everyone will get their opportunities to shoot the ball. he will be able to put up shots. so b/c of that alone, he won't be a total scrub.

but the question is will this kid be better than average?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-28-2008 12:25 AM]

Posted by djsunyc:

imho, gallinari won't be a bust.

nobody is a bust w/ d'antoni's system. everyone will score. everyone will get their opportunities to shoot the ball. he will be able to put up shots. so b/c of that alone, he won't be a total scrub.

but the question is will this kid be better than average?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-28-2008 12:25 AM]

if he comes in & tops out at 17 & 6 at his peak but plays unselfishly, is all about team first basketball & provides some much needed passion & maybe 1 day grows into a leader for this team, i'll consider it a home run for this pick... personally i don't consider role players like Toni Kukoc average... stats wise, there will probably be guys that will end up putting up better numbers at their peak that were taken later than him in this draft, but if this guy contributes to this system & plays an integral role in the success of this system, i don't think anyone could knock this pick regardless if he grows into a superstar player or not.

Posted by djsunyc:

imho, gallinari won't be a bust.

nobody is a bust w/ d'antoni's system. everyone will score. everyone will get their opportunities to shoot the ball. he will be able to put up shots. so b/c of that alone, he won't be a total scrub.

but the question is will this kid be better than average?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-28-2008 12:25 AM]

What other team has D'Antoni been head coach for in the NBA for you to be so sure about that?

Has coach D'Antoni got shots foreveryone without Steve Nash running his system ??

Gallinari can't begin to know the pressure awaiting him playing in NYC for the NBA team called the NYKNICKS!.



[Edited by - playa2 on 28-06-2008 18:24]

Posted by playa2:

Posted by djsunyc:

imho, gallinari won't be a bust.

nobody is a bust w/ d'antoni's system. everyone will score. everyone will get their opportunities to shoot the ball. he will be able to put up shots. so b/c of that alone, he won't be a total scrub.

but the question is will this kid be better than average?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-28-2008 12:25 AM]

What other team has D'Antoni been head coach for in the NBA for you to be so sure about that?

Has coach D'Antoni got shots foreveryone without Steve Nash running his system ??

Gallinari can't begin to know the pressure awaiting him playing in NYC for the NBA team called the NYKNICKS!.

that's true, but gallinari will get every chance and will get the green light. just the fact that he's a decent shooter, he will put up *some* points. so he won't be a 5 ppg bust that can't get off the pine. he will give you at least 10 ppg. and even if the opposing player scores 25 points on him, he will continue to play.

i think the jury is still out on d'antoni. i think he has alot to prove. and something tells me that he's going to get very antsy about the knicks situation within a year. i don't think he will realize what a big project this will be until january.. i don't think he's prepared to go from winning 55 games a year to 30 games a year. he will not say a word for 1 year but walsh will have to give him some vets next season.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-28-2008 7:36 PM]

Mike D'Antonio's record is 35-76 without Steve Nash.

I don't think NY Knick fans were booing Gallinari---I think what they were booing was the continued course of action the Knicks take.

Instead of looking for a young hungry GM like they have in Seattle and Portland--the NY Knicks went after a guy who is 68 years old and had close ties to Isiah Thomas--who kept Isiah in the organization--and IT had a say in the personell decision behind pick 6 which IMHO is absolutely unnacceptable and almost fraudulent.

The hiring of Dantoni makes very little sense if you stop back and think. His record was putrid without Steve Nash with Pheonix not to mention we have nothing that even remotely resembles Nash. Our team needed a coach to come in kick some butt and clean house revamp the whole thing. We didnt need to pay maximum $$$ for this coach

What we did was star phuk but we did it at the management level. We had a 68 yo GM who's first personell move was to draft a player he never watched live or even 1-1 against similar NBA type talent. That is not acceptable--that means we went on the word of people who were responsible for the current mess. I think as a fan you can understand why we would want a player like Bayless @ 6 because he brings that elite athletic package after putting up great numbers at a school that is famous for producing high level guard after guard. He was ranked in the top 5 all year and as the draft goes--he becomes available and we dont take him because we yet again promised someone a pick--Portland got him who after revealed he was rated 4th on their board--you know what I trust Portland's board more than the NY Knicks.

They shop David Lee around the league like he is chop meat than they signal him out in public like he was the chump of the team. They *fail* to execute a deal and now are stuck holding their heads in their hands. Honestly I believe KEEPING David Lee would be the best decision because you KNOW what you are going to get from Lee and he could easily advance his numbers in up teampo play. The lack of execution might just help the Knicks win many more games then trading him for a second tier PG that teams are trying to get rid of--usually when you trade big for small you get burnt. But it show syou the MSG face and it's an ugly 1.

Just like the NHL is trying to clean house on the Rangers--the NBA laughs at the Knicks and the Knicks will continue to flounder like the medicore team they strive to be. Luck helped them from getting rid of Lee--but my bet is they wont see it.