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Bonn1997
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10/3/2005  10:44 PM
Big Z can't stop him

http://aol.nba.com/media/bulls/curry_041209.jpg

And neither can Shaq

http://aol.nba.com/media/bulls/curry_041203.jpg

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Pharzeone
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10/3/2005  10:47 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Pharzeone:

TT is a max player, Sweetney was set to earn I think about 4 million. That's like $19 million right there, sign and trade so we now know that Curry got some money but not the max.


Sweets earns about $2+ this year. He and TT combine for about $16M. AD makes just under $14, same as TT. So what does that put Curry at?
Wasn't Sweets salary increased with the new CBA. Because he is not getting much of an escalation compared to the other players.


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10/3/2005  10:50 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Big Z can't stop him

http://aol.nba.com/media/bulls/curry_041209.jpg

And neither can Shaq

http://aol.nba.com/media/bulls/curry_041203.jpg


Too bad he couldn't stop them either...we all knew Curry was a beast down low but can Brown make him play some D?? If not at least we will out score folks most nights. Honestly, if we have the team we have now and have Herb as head coach we would be run and gun like Seattle last year but better down low. Scores would be 116 - 113 every night. And that sounds a lot more fun than the 65-62 games that Detroit and Indy had last year. Oh well, I think we are a lock for the playoffs now...definitely top 5 in the East.



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10/3/2005  10:55 PM
Too bad he couldn't stop them either
that's certainly true. If Curry had no question marks and had played to his potential, he would have been an untradeable franchise star. Instead, he's just a 22 year old kid with crazy potential.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 10-03-2005 10:55 PM]
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10/3/2005  10:55 PM
Ok so antonio davis has a trade kicker which makes his contract worth something like $15 million, I think this might actually make sense. and curry might've gotten 6 years and $35 million. Just repeating what I'm seeing on random sites all over the net.
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10/3/2005  10:59 PM
I'd like to see how this trade influences the Knicks' standings in the power rankings...
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10/3/2005  11:01 PM
Posted by teslawlo:

Ok so antonio davis has a trade kicker which makes his contract worth something like $15 million, I think this might actually make sense. and curry might've gotten 6 years and $35 million. Just repeating what I'm seeing on random sites all over the net.


I wouldn't be surprised if we buy out Davis somehow and he returns to Chicago...there has to be some catch to this deal.

Oh yeah, for those who are unsure about Sweetney's deal go here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d03/story?id=1573071

It sorta breaks his salary down compared to everyone else in his class...
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10/3/2005  11:01 PM
Thought this was worth quoting, on why AD and TT were thrown in:

Because when you add 13 mil to the trade from each side , the 125% rule gets much bigger.

Eddy counts for 1/2 of his salary (BYC) so if it starts at 8 he'll count as 4 mil. Sweets is 2 mil and a min contract is 600-700k more.

2.7X1.25= 3.375 +100k don't reach 4 mil.

But if you add 13 mil a side:

13+eddy's 4= 17 mil

13+2.7 = 15.7 mil X 1.25 =19.625 - within trade limmits!
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10/3/2005  11:02 PM
Posted by teslawlo:

Ok so antonio davis has a trade kicker which makes his contract worth something like $15 million, I think this might actually make sense. and curry might've gotten 6 years and $35 million. Just repeating what I'm seeing on random sites all over the net.
That sounds right. Nice pick with AD. He was good for the Bulls last season, and his expiring contract is perfect. My thinking now is if Stern will approve this deal, it will hurt the NBA. Curry and his agent all but said he will sign a one year contract with the Bulls but will not suit up one game for them. Paxson hands were tied, the DNA test was a justification. He scared off the Hawks and other teams. Give Curry and his agent credit they stuck to their guns and forced Paxson's hand. Paxson is really not high on Sweetney, something that he expressed last year during those Crawford talks.


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10/3/2005  11:07 PM
but wait: this is what the nytimes article says:
The Knicks will send forwards Tim Thomas and Mike Sweetney, and next year's first-round pick, to the Bulls, according to an Eastern Conference team executive who had knowledge of the deal. In exchange, the Knicks will receive Curry, veteran forward Antonio Davis and possibly draft picks. For salary-cap purposes, the Knicks will also sign and immediately trade guard Jermaine Jackson to Chicago.
So we might get picks back? and it also says curry signed a 5 year deal worth about 10 million the first year.
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10/3/2005  11:07 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/8924218

lokks like A.D was involved:

"Chicago also sent veteran center Antonio Davis to the Knicks, who traded away forwards Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. Several draft choices also changed hands in the deal, according to an executive in the Eastern Conference who spoke on condition of anonymity."

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10/3/2005  11:13 PM
FUCK YES!!! MOTHERFUCKING YES!!! NEW YORK HAS THE BIGGEST FRONTLINE IN THE EAST! Let me be the first to say CURRY FRYE'S BABY!!
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10/3/2005  11:15 PM
Posted by teslawlo:

Thought this was worth quoting, on why AD and TT were thrown in:

Because when you add 13 mil to the trade from each side , the 125% rule gets much bigger.

Eddy counts for 1/2 of his salary (BYC) so if it starts at 8 he'll count as 4 mil. Sweets is 2 mil and a min contract is 600-700k more.

2.7X1.25= 3.375 +100k don't reach 4 mil.

But if you add 13 mil a side:

13+eddy's 4= 17 mil

13+2.7 = 15.7 mil X 1.25 =19.625 - within trade limmits!


math makes sense. thanks.
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10/3/2005  11:15 PM
Bulls' Curry Is Traded to Knicks
By HOWARD BECK

CHARLESTON, S.C., Oct. 3 - In a bold attempt to accelerate the Knicks' rebuilding effort, the team president Isiah Thomas made his greatest gamble yet Monday night, striking a deal in principle to acquire the promising center Eddy Curry from the Chicago Bulls.

The Knicks will send forwards Tim Thomas and Mike Sweetney, and next year's first-round pick, to the Bulls, according to an Eastern Conference team executive who had knowledge of the deal. In exchange, the Knicks will receive Curry, veteran forward Antonio Davis and possibly draft picks. For salary-cap purposes, the Knicks will also sign and immediately trade guard Jermaine Jackson to Chicago.

The team executive spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not yet final.

Curry has shown immense promise in four seasons since going directly from high school to the N.B.A. in 2001. At 6 feet 11 inches and 285 pounds, he is strong and athletic and is generally regarded as one of the most talented young big men in the league.

Yet Curry has had his dedication questioned at times. More significant, he has a heart condition that concerned the Bulls so much that the team felt compelled to trade him rather than put him back on the court.

Curry sat out the final 13 games of last season, and the Bulls' first-round playoff series, after experiencing a benign arrhythmia. Chicago management wanted Curry to take a DNA test to determine whether he had a potentially fatal condition. Curry has refused to take the test, and doctors who have examined him have offered conflicting opinions as to whether the test is necessary.

But the Bulls remained steadfast and said they were prepared to bench Curry this season if he did not take a DNA test.

"I would never put a player on the floor in a Chicago Bulls uniform if I didn't do everything in my power to find out all the information that was available," John Paxson, the Bulls general manager, told reporters in Chicago. "You can debate genetic testing till you're blue in the face. But from what I know, from what I've learned over the last six months, that test could have helped us determine the best course of action."

The Knicks declined comment Monday night.

Precise details of the trade were still being worked, and as of 9:30 p.m. Eastern, the teams had not conducted the required conference call with league officials to have the deal approved. It was expected that it could be completed by Tuesday morning.

"It's a done deal," said Tim Thomas, who had the trade confirmed to him by his agent, Arn Tellem, earlier Monday afternoon.

The deal was contingent on all players passing their physical exams. Curry and Davis were expected to travel to New York on Tuesday for their exams. Thomas said he and Sweetney would be boarding a flight to Chicago on Tuesday, not long after their teammates complete their first training camp practice at the College of Charleston.

Curry was a restricted free agent this off-season, and was a top target of the Knicks, although they did not have the cap room to sign him outright. Had the Bulls not traded him, Curry would been forced to accept the Bulls' qualifying offer of $5.14 million. But he probably would have spent the season on the bench.

Instead, Curry will sign a five-year deal, believed to be worth about $10 million in the first season, and join the Knicks. Curry will be reunited with guard Jamal Crawford, his close friend from their days together in Chicago.

"He's excited, man," Crawford said just after 10 p.m. Monday night, minutes after talking to Curry on the phone. "I'm excited. I can't wait to get started tomorrow."

The Knicks are short on star players, but they are flush with solid ones, which means no one aside from Stephon Marbury has a lock on a starting job. When they open the season Nov. 2 in Boston, there will be worthy players, and perhaps former starters, reduced to bit parts and obsolescence.

What the Knicks do from there could well determine the course of their season. With gluts at some positions, it might not take long for bruised egos to override high-minded platitudes about teamwork.

But for now, the platitudes will reign.

"All of us are going to have to sacrifice in some way," said Crawford, last year's starter at shooting guard and a candidate for the bruised ego list.

Who is sacrificing what will be determined in the coming weeks as the Knicks adjust to life under Larry Brown, their demanding new coach.

"There's nothing penciled in right now with Coach Brown," said Penny Hardaway. "One thing about him, he's his own man. He's going to come in and make his own assessments of what's going on. I don't think anything is predictable right now."

Even Marbury's role is subject to change. Brown has spoken of using him more at shooting guard, the way he once did with Allen Iverson in Philadelphia. Marbury said he is open to it. But a full-time move there seems unlikely, and Marbury is the only sure starter, at point guard.

Jerome James, who signed a five-year, $30 million deal in July, should win the starting center job by default. Everything else is hazy.

In a few weeks, the sore spots could be more mental than physical. The Knicks play their first preseason game on Oct. 15, which should provide clues about where Brown is heading. Brown has so far offered no hints about his lineup or rotation.

Crawford's job was thrown into uncertainty the moment the Knicks acquired Richardson, in a trade for Kurt Thomas, in June. Richardson is a proven 3-point shooter and is both taller and brawnier than Crawford, who spent most of his life at point guard.

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10/3/2005  11:16 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

FUCK YES!!! MOTHERFUCKING YES!!! NEW YORK HAS THE BIGGEST FRONTLINE IN THE EAST! Let me be the first to say CURRY FRYE'S BABY!!


dude is drunk and wishes he could be EATING some curry fries. Go pass out man!
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10/3/2005  11:20 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

FUCK YES!!! MOTHERFUCKING YES!!! NEW YORK HAS THE BIGGEST FRONTLINE IN THE EAST! Let me be the first to say CURRY FRYE'S BABY!!

I'm just as happy as you are, Silver! We all have a reason to be happy today! That size problem of the past is just that- "of the past".




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10/3/2005  11:21 PM
Wow, a comment from Penny. Nice to hear he is in Knick camp.
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10/3/2005  11:28 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Wow, a comment from Penny. Nice to hear he is in Knick camp.

If I recall corectly, all 15 were there a week early for the pre-camp workouts.

EC and AD will be welcomed additions to the Knicks' trainng camp.
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10/3/2005  11:46 PM
man, I'm so psyched to see this team play now. we're so damn deep EVERYWHERE. (why do I feel like something bad is about to happen)...
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10/3/2005  11:47 PM
wow I read somewhere that Curry will be making 35 million over 6 years ...that would be great if true
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670 AM radio in chicago reports curry to the knicks (confirmed)

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