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7/16/2021  1:19 PM
I'm 100% with you on being overly cautious and our family still wears masks, avoids indoors when possible, etc... I think Fauci's early comments were probably and unfortunately negatively impacted from all the unknown/new information combined with the politics, pressure from Trump, etc... I think he's a solid guy and trustworthy now that he's under a different admin. Will read up more on Feigl-Ding!
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7/16/2021  2:44 PM
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Some may not like this guy but he has been sounding the alarm on the Delta Variant back when it was still only in India. What I like most about him he is errs on the side of caution like me. I don't listen to Fauci or the CDC much. I still remember at the start of this Fauci telling people they don't need masks. Once he said that I knew he can't be trusted. The CDC are too quick to recommend people take off masks. They respond to pressure of people wanting business as usual. I'll role with Eric Ding all day because he is overly cautious and that is how I am also handling this pandemic.

Keep your eyes on the UK's numbers over the next few weeks, as they have high vaccination rates plus high Delta prevalence (and are about to fully re-open, or at least were due to their Trump-esq clown of a leader, but now have back tracked and are lifting the legal requirements but asking people to kind of keep following them) so are due for a further surge. It will give a good indicator as to what happens with regards to vaccine vs death and hospitalization numbers vs infection rates. So far they've shown this spreads ridiculously quickly, but so far (and it might be too early to tell), not as high hospitalization rates or deaths, but it's early days. A further problem there is it's going to be so prevalent, contact tracing app is going to mean a large chunk of the population are going to end up having to self isolate for 10 days, because people will keep coming into close contact with people with covid, either not transport or at work or school- not sure how that's going to work practically.

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7/17/2021  12:49 PM
This is a good place to keep track of the UK's infection vs hospitalizations vs deaths vs vaccination rate:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/covid-uk-coronavirus-cases-deaths-and-vaccinations-today

Meanwhile one of the main pushers for opening everything up there on Monday:

Sajid Javid, England’s health secretary, tests positive for Covid

Javid says he has had two jabs and is self-isolating with mild symptoms after feeling ‘a bit groggy’


England’s health secretary, Sajid Javid, has tested positive for coronavirus and has mild symptoms, he has said.

In a video posted on Twitter on Saturday, Javid wrote: “This morning I tested positive for Covid. I’m waiting for my PCR result, but thankfully I have had my jabs and symptoms are mild.”

Javid got the positive result from a lateral flow test he took after feeling “a bit groggy” on Friday night. He said he was self-isolating at home with his family.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/17/sajid-javid-uk-health-secretary-tests-positive-for-covid

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7/18/2021  3:37 PM
Darwinism moves too ****** ******* slow.
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7/18/2021  11:53 PM
ToddTT wrote:Darwinism moves too ****** ******* slow.

It moves slow but it does move. I was reading a twitter thread on some stories of anti vax people who have died. I am sure there are a lot more stories like these that people just don't know of. If you want to see it just click on that tweet and read his other tweets linked to this one. He even gives the articles so if you want to each more on each story. The anti vax people who are overweight are the dumbest. Everyone know overweight people are hit harder by this and they still don't want to take it. SO now they are dead.

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7/19/2021  12:23 AM
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ToddTT wrote:Darwinism moves too ****** ******* slow.

It moves slow but it does move. I was reading a twitter thread on some stories of anti vax people who have died. I am sure there are a lot more stories like these that people just don't know of. If you want to see it just click on that tweet and read his other tweets linked to this one. He even gives the articles so if you want to each more on each story. The anti vax people who are overweight are the dumbest. Everyone know overweight people are hit harder by this and they still don't want to take it. SO now they are dead.

It’s an interesting twisted relationship going on there. Trump actually promoted the vaccines and actually tried his hardest to get them approved too early.... obviously to win votes. Trump supporters hang on to every last word he has to say and take his talk as gospel speak. Yet a lot of them refuse to take the vaccine despite him being desperate to get Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AZ to be approved early for votes. I wonder what they think of him for that or do they just refuse to remember that?

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7/19/2021  6:04 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Clean wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Darwinism moves too ****** ******* slow.

It moves slow but it does move. I was reading a twitter thread on some stories of anti vax people who have died. I am sure there are a lot more stories like these that people just don't know of. If you want to see it just click on that tweet and read his other tweets linked to this one. He even gives the articles so if you want to each more on each story. The anti vax people who are overweight are the dumbest. Everyone know overweight people are hit harder by this and they still don't want to take it. SO now they are dead.

It’s an interesting twisted relationship going on there. Trump actually promoted the vaccines and actually tried his hardest to get them approved too early.... obviously to win votes. Trump supporters hang on to every last word he has to say and take his talk as gospel speak. Yet a lot of them refuse to take the vaccine despite him being desperate to get Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AZ to be approved early for votes. I wonder what they think of him for that or do they just refuse to remember that?

Covid was never really a big deal. Vaccines are for the weak and gullible. That’s what I’m guessing dominates their thought process.

All I know is, if I ever move to another state, I’ll be referring to covid and election maps to eliminate places I’ll never move to.

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7/19/2021  6:47 AM
ToddTT wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Clean wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Darwinism moves too ****** ******* slow.

It moves slow but it does move. I was reading a twitter thread on some stories of anti vax people who have died. I am sure there are a lot more stories like these that people just don't know of. If you want to see it just click on that tweet and read his other tweets linked to this one. He even gives the articles so if you want to each more on each story. The anti vax people who are overweight are the dumbest. Everyone know overweight people are hit harder by this and they still don't want to take it. SO now they are dead.

It’s an interesting twisted relationship going on there. Trump actually promoted the vaccines and actually tried his hardest to get them approved too early.... obviously to win votes. Trump supporters hang on to every last word he has to say and take his talk as gospel speak. Yet a lot of them refuse to take the vaccine despite him being desperate to get Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AZ to be approved early for votes. I wonder what they think of him for that or do they just refuse to remember that?

Covid was never really a big deal. Vaccines are for the weak and gullible. That’s what I’m guessing dominates their thought process.

All I know is, if I ever move to another state, I’ll be referring to covid and election maps to eliminate places I’ll never move to.

I work with a woman who told me vaccines are the tools of the devil. That it's part of a global plan to microchip us all. She spouts this insane BS while her cousin a former NY police officer with children died from the coronavirus. She also told me that demons are the cause of the transgender movement. That demons are inhabiting their bodies causing confusion. I think people underestimate how many of these whack jobs are out there spreading this insanity on social media. Even if its 10% of adults that's millions of crazy people that you can't reason with.

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7/19/2021  7:11 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Clean wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Darwinism moves too ****** ******* slow.

It moves slow but it does move. I was reading a twitter thread on some stories of anti vax people who have died. I am sure there are a lot more stories like these that people just don't know of. If you want to see it just click on that tweet and read his other tweets linked to this one. He even gives the articles so if you want to each more on each story. The anti vax people who are overweight are the dumbest. Everyone know overweight people are hit harder by this and they still don't want to take it. SO now they are dead.

It’s an interesting twisted relationship going on there. Trump actually promoted the vaccines and actually tried his hardest to get them approved too early.... obviously to win votes. Trump supporters hang on to every last word he has to say and take his talk as gospel speak. Yet a lot of them refuse to take the vaccine despite him being desperate to get Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AZ to be approved early for votes. I wonder what they think of him for that or do they just refuse to remember that?

Covid was never really a big deal. Vaccines are for the weak and gullible. That’s what I’m guessing dominates their thought process.

All I know is, if I ever move to another state, I’ll be referring to covid and election maps to eliminate places I’ll never move to.

I work with a woman who told me vaccines are the tools of the devil. That it's part of a global plan to microchip us all. She spouts this insane BS while her cousin a former NY police officer with children died from the coronavirus. She also told me that demons are the cause of the transgender movement. That demons are inhabiting their bodies causing confusion. I think people underestimate how many of these whack jobs are out there spreading this insanity on social media. Even if its 10% of adults that's millions of crazy people that you can't reason with.

I hope it's not 10% because I have to believe if it were that high, our society would be doomed-like end days of the roman empire doomed.

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7/19/2021  11:05 AM
franco12 wrote:I hope it's not 10% because I have to believe if it were that high, our society would be doomed-like end days of the roman empire doomed.

I don't think history is going to treat the last few years (or even decades) kindly.

IMHO the United States is currently on the wrong side of the roman empire trajectory

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7/19/2021  1:14 PM
What I keep reading is that people who have been vaccinated are acting very much like those not vaccinated. That they don’t have to wear masks now that they don’t need to social distance that even if they get the disease they won’t die. Same story different chapter.

It’s like tgis whether or not you have the vaccine people MUSt follow a stringent social distancing standard. We need to keep big globs of people away from each other we need to follow continued science on this virus or we’re gonna f pay. Go back to hardline social distancing for time being to be on safe side. If you have not had vaccine please consider getting it— not just for u but your friends family Abd your community. If you have the vaccine don’t think you’re bot susceptible to variant strains or passing disease. Wear a mask!!!!! Don’t go into big crowds. If this mind set is not established quickly. We’re fd

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7/19/2021  2:10 PM
How funny is this. Fox continually go anti vax but all of their on air personalities are vaxxed and the company is using a vax passport system.

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7/21/2021  3:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2021  3:34 PM
martin wrote:

That thread was very informative.

Here is some good news.

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7/21/2021  5:26 PM
This is from the UK but helps explain why the Delta variant is so problematic in achieving herd immunity against:

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This is why I no longer feel sorry for these idiots.

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