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martin
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2/2/2017  11:00 PM
holfresh wrote:^^^^All raids are conducted by our military..Obama did the review and would have approved it..They were waiting until a night where the moon would not be out..It's a military operation which could happen under any President..Trump is a clown but he just says yes or no..It's military planning..It's unfortunate with all the civilian deaths..Silly of Trump's team to blame Obama and silly of Obama's people to say they had nothing to do with it..It's military, therefore the US..

Didn't realize Presidents were there just to rubber stamp stuff

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holfresh
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2/2/2017  11:12 PM
martin wrote:
holfresh wrote:^^^^All raids are conducted by our military..Obama did the review and would have approved it..They were waiting until a night where the moon would not be out..It's a military operation which could happen under any President..Trump is a clown but he just says yes or no..It's military planning..It's unfortunate with all the civilian deaths..Silly of Trump's team to blame Obama and silly of Obama's people to say they had nothing to do with it..It's military, therefore the US..

Didn't realize Presidents were there just to rubber stamp stuff

Well in this case Trump just rubber stamped it over dinner according to reports..But the planning and legalize started under Obama since November..The military does the planning..President weights whether the mission is worth the risk..Can't imagine Trump ever saying no tho..

nixluva
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2/2/2017  11:16 PM
holfresh wrote:^^^^All raids are conducted by our military..Obama did the review and would have approved it..They were waiting until a night where the moon would not be out..It's a military operation which could happen under any President..Trump is a clown but he just says yes or no..It's military planning..It's unfortunate with all the civilian deaths..Silly of Trump's team to blame Obama and silly of Obama's people to say they had nothing to do with it..It's military, therefore the US..

There's a reason I posted what I did. This was not something that Obama Approved and all they were doing is waiting for the right time. This Raid was HIGH RISK and not something to be given the go ahead lightly. Don't try and pass this off as something Obama would've just Ok'd as if it was a routine walk thru the park. TRUMP and his team F'd UP!!! He did not go thru the necessary vetting process OF HIS OWN for an operation of this complexity. When a President gives the OK it's ON HIM!!! He needs to be as certain as he can be and be as well informed of the risks and benefits. I don't know if Trump or his team were ready for this kind of decision.

The former Obama official, however, said the interagency deputies committee of the National Security Council did not officially recommend for or against the raid.
Ned Price, a former CIA officer who was spokesman for the National Security Council during the Obama administration, said in a tweet that Spicer was wrong and that the "specific operation in question was never presented to or considered by the Obama Admin for approval.

According to a former special operations officer with knowledge of the raid, one of the Obama administration's concerns was the integration of commandos from the United Arab Emirates, an unusual arrangement for the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) and its elite task forces. In some ways, said the retired officer, it was an Emirati-driven operation, with their intelligence on the ground and their year-long preparation.
gunsnewing
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2/3/2017  2:33 AM
Is it to soon to say America is great again? Yea probably. I'll look into it again next week
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2/3/2017  2:36 AM
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

gunsnewing
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2/3/2017  3:10 AM
meloanyk
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2/3/2017  11:30 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured
smackeddog
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2/3/2017  11:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2017  11:44 AM
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

djsunyc
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2/3/2017  11:58 AM
meloanyk wrote:The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

i would venture to guess that if trump lost the election, he would've sued the government.

is the woman's march and the uproar over the poorly released muslim ban part of this childish pouting or spoiled children contingent?

arkrud
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2/3/2017  12:23 PM
smackeddog wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

Trump is deferentially a little spoiled child... but very successful child.
I think he knew and understand something that most of the people don't.
He knew what most of the people REALLY are and what they REALLY want.
He see reality as it is not as he want to see it.
And when you take the actions based on what really happened not based on what you want to happen there are much more chances to succeed.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
holfresh
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2/3/2017  12:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2017  12:29 PM
arkrud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

Trump is deferentially a little spoiled child... but very successful child.
I think he knew and understand something that most of the people don't.
He knew what most of the people REALLY are and what they REALLY want.
He see reality as it is not as he want to see it.
And when you take the actions based on what really happened not based on what you want to happen there are much more chances to succeed.

So who plans for the future events...The world is changing every decade now...Trump is looking backwards...His voters want to go backwards and capture an event that's already gone...

arkrud
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2/3/2017  12:47 PM
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

Trump is deferentially a little spoiled child... but very successful child.
I think he knew and understand something that most of the people don't.
He knew what most of the people REALLY are and what they REALLY want.
He see reality as it is not as he want to see it.
And when you take the actions based on what really happened not based on what you want to happen there are much more chances to succeed.

So who plans for the future events...The world is changing every decade now...Trump is looking backwards...His voters want to go backwards and capture an event that's already gone...

It is not about reality on the ground, it is about reality inside general population head.
If you want to succeed as politician you must tell people what they want to hear.
Tell it not only to you supporters but also to your enemies.
Most of the people cannot see the trap before its to late and then they just cannot get out.
They cannot admit that they are trapped. More over they will start believing that the trap is the promised land.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
holfresh
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2/3/2017  1:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2017  1:40 PM
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

Trump is deferentially a little spoiled child... but very successful child.
I think he knew and understand something that most of the people don't.
He knew what most of the people REALLY are and what they REALLY want.
He see reality as it is not as he want to see it.
And when you take the actions based on what really happened not based on what you want to happen there are much more chances to succeed.

So who plans for the future events...The world is changing every decade now...Trump is looking backwards...His voters want to go backwards and capture an event that's already gone...

It is not about reality on the ground, it is about reality inside general population head.
If you want to succeed as politician you must tell people what they want to hear.
Tell it not only to you supporters but also to your enemies.
Most of the people cannot see the trap before its to late and then they just cannot get out.
They cannot admit that they are trapped. More over they will start believing that the trap is the promised land.

So lie to the people as Trump did...

djsunyc
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2/3/2017  1:46 PM
but did he lie?

holfresh
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2/3/2017  1:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2017  2:06 PM
I'm just amazed that just 8 eights after the financial crisis, a President is undoing all the protections that caused the financial crisis in the first place...And telling the people, those regulations is the reason they don't have jobs...

But the blocking the fiduciary rule that helped retirement investors is wrong...That's just greed..I get trying to repeal parts of Dodd-Frank but not all of it...Also the consumer protection agency will take a big hit..It helped curb credit card charges and detailed the charges..Consumer Protection Agency exposed Wells Fargo enrolling people into additional fake accounts and charge them for it...That's going away...Why people vote against themselves and are proud of it, I have no clue...
fishmike
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2/3/2017  2:01 PM
holfresh wrote:I'm just amazed that just 8 eights after the financial crisis, a President is undoing all the protections that caused the financial crisis in the first place...And telling the people, those regulations is the reason they don't have jobs...
constantly attack ALL USA media, lie to population. Its really that simple. I guess thats just my inner liberal having a pouty temper tantrum lol

This will be one step back and two forward once he's out

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
smackeddog
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2/3/2017  2:11 PM
holfresh wrote:I'm just amazed that just 8 eights after the financial crisis, a President is undoing all the protections that caused the financial crisis in the first place...And telling the people, those regulations is the reason they don't have jobs...

But the blocking the fiduciary rule that help retirement investors is wrong...I get trying to repeal parts of Dodd-Frank but not all of it...Also the consumer protection agency will take a big hit..It helped curb credit card charges and detailed the charges..That's going away...Why people vote against themselves I have no clue...

Yeah, but he's going to mess up Muslims, foreigners, black people and gay people, and he's going to act like a dick while he does it- which is what his supporters seem to care about more.

I'm not even joking - they'll be happy so long as he behaves like a dick and announces policies that have no practical benefit to them personally, other than making them feel that they're sticking it to one of those groups.

nixluva
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2/3/2017  2:13 PM
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

Trump is deferentially a little spoiled child... but very successful child.
I think he knew and understand something that most of the people don't.
He knew what most of the people REALLY are and what they REALLY want.
He see reality as it is not as he want to see it.
And when you take the actions based on what really happened not based on what you want to happen there are much more chances to succeed.

So who plans for the future events...The world is changing every decade now...Trump is looking backwards...His voters want to go backwards and capture an event that's already gone...

It is not about reality on the ground, it is about reality inside general population head.
If you want to succeed as politician you must tell people what they want to hear.
Tell it not only to you supporters but also to your enemies.
Most of the people cannot see the trap before its to late and then they just cannot get out.
They cannot admit that they are trapped. More over they will start believing that the trap is the promised land.

I just want to remind you and those who actually voted for Trump that he did not get the most votes! More people voted AGAINST Trump than for him. It came down to about 70,000 voters in 3 states that put him in the Presidency. Trump and the Republicans represent more GRASS AND DIRT than they do actual people! This system is setup to give more power To unpopulated states than the most populous states! Trump and the Republicans do not have a mandate from the people.

Republicans are more devious and better politicians than Dems and Independents. They are more organized and focused on their goals!!! They're more willing to let the country BURN in order to get their way! These are the same type of people that caused this country to fight a Civil War!!! For them the Civil War never ended.

holfresh
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2/3/2017  2:15 PM
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:I'm just amazed that just 8 eights after the financial crisis, a President is undoing all the protections that caused the financial crisis in the first place...And telling the people, those regulations is the reason they don't have jobs...

But the blocking the fiduciary rule that help retirement investors is wrong...I get trying to repeal parts of Dodd-Frank but not all of it...Also the consumer protection agency will take a big hit..It helped curb credit card charges and detailed the charges..That's going away...Why people vote against themselves I have no clue...

Yeah, but he's going to mess up Muslims, foreigners, black people and gay people, and he's going to act like a dick while he does it- which is what his supporters seem to care about more.

I'm not even joking - they'll be happy so long as he behaves like a dick and announces policies that have no practical benefit to them personally, other than making them feel that they're sticking it to one of those groups.

I saw this report on NBC News yesterday in a rural county where one guy say I'm a racist an I love what he(Trump) is doing..He said lots of people he knows are racist but don't want to say it in public...But they all love what Trump is doing...

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2/3/2017  3:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2017  3:01 PM
nixluva wrote:
arkrud wrote:
holfresh wrote:
arkrud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
martin wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Trump going to cut government funding of schools that don't allow free speech.

Rebuilding this great country one brick at a time. I love this man

what the **** does that even mean?

if he's getting his bricks from knicks players - he should have the country built in no time.

Some Breitbart whackjob was going to give a speech in UC Berkley. Protesters shut the event down, which provoked the tweet from our president " If they shut down free speech, the we will cut federal funding to those schools".

CONTEXT HELPS

Ah so protesting against fascists means you lose your funding- and gunsnewing LOVES Trump because of this... Because apparently protesting isn't exercising free speech?

Protesting and free speech isn't Fascism. Denying someone's right to
Free speech and setting the place on fire for
Good measure because you disagree is Fascism.

The left has already been exposed for the frauds they are. Most dems are embarrassing themselves with their childish pouting and the spoiled children are acting out. Imagine if the opposite had occured

You do remember Trump said he wouldn't accept the result if he lost, don't you? The left are the childish ones? Hmm someone wasn't paying attention to the Republicans and the right during Obama's presidency- blocking everything, refusing to let him nominate someone to the supreme court, trying to stop trans gender youths from using the toilet, claiming Obama wasn't birn in the US, etc etc

Do you honestly think Trump is even remotely mature? He's a big spoilt child.

Do you honestly think Trump isn't a fraud? His bankruptcy, tax avoidance, lying, his hypocrisy? His claims to want to drain the swamp then stuffing government with millionaires and billionaires and keeping his business interests.

Trump is deferentially a little spoiled child... but very successful child.
I think he knew and understand something that most of the people don't.
He knew what most of the people REALLY are and what they REALLY want.
He see reality as it is not as he want to see it.
And when you take the actions based on what really happened not based on what you want to happen there are much more chances to succeed.

So who plans for the future events...The world is changing every decade now...Trump is looking backwards...His voters want to go backwards and capture an event that's already gone...

It is not about reality on the ground, it is about reality inside general population head.
If you want to succeed as politician you must tell people what they want to hear.
Tell it not only to you supporters but also to your enemies.
Most of the people cannot see the trap before its to late and then they just cannot get out.
They cannot admit that they are trapped. More over they will start believing that the trap is the promised land.

I just want to remind you and those who actually voted for Trump that he did not get the most votes! More people voted AGAINST Trump than for him. It came down to about 70,000 voters in 3 states that put him in the Presidency. Trump and the Republicans represent more GRASS AND DIRT than they do actual people! This system is setup to give more power To unpopulated states than the most populous states! Trump and the Republicans do not have a mandate from the people.

Republicans are more devious and better politicians than Dems and Independents. They are more organized and focused on their goals!!! They're more willing to let the country BURN in order to get their way! These are the same type of people that caused this country to fight a Civil War!!! For them the Civil War never ended.

This is quite interesting why people who have so much wealth and power would want the country BURN.
They are interested in country to be stable and prosperous more than anybody.
Its people who have nothing to lose would want the country BURN to get some stuff while everything is burning...
This was the case during every turmoil and revolution. But people never learn... They need their own butt to be kicked to learn some lessons.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
OT: Politics Thread

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