yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Lebron should be the finals MVP even if GS wins IMO. No one on GS is as valuable to their team as he is to Cleveland.

Maybe but the case for Iggy is that without him Lebron would actually be an efficient player making Lebron unstoppable. GS would've probably been swept

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Lebron should be the finals MVP even if GS wins IMO. No one on GS is as valuable to their team as he is to Cleveland.

Maybe but the case for Iggy is that without him Lebron would actually be an efficient player making Lebron unstoppable. GS would've probably been swept

That's possible but I doubt anyone would be efficient taking 40 shots a game this deep in the playoffs with only 2 min rest a game. The MVP once before went to a player from the losing team.

Well he could always take the Tyson route and just pass up the shot. j/k.

JesseDark wrote:Did you catch when Mark Jackson was comparing Lebron's performance to Magic Johnson in Magic's 42 pt performance to when his first title? Jeff Van Gundy was shooting Mark down saying don't do that. I agree with Mark Jackson he absolutely reminds me of Magic. I mean Lebron isn't doing this for just one game he has had these stellar performances throughout the series. C'mon Jeff you better than that.

there was one point during the game though where mark jackson said... but magic would have never had an 8 sec violation.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Blatt made a few mistakes tonight ..Moz need floor time..Della should not be the orchestrator at the top of the key..He needs to be a catch and shoot guy..JR was on the bench too long..came back in the game at 6:47 in the 4th..

Delly should play D and wait for the 3, but nobody else on that team seems to have the desire to handle the ball when James is not doing it.

Well they haven't been doing it all year..Shump could bring up the ball..

Anyone can see that he is totally afraid to assert himself. He was hesitant to shoot from deep, and to take it to the hole, and when he did penetrate he looked horrible for the most part.

Hit a few jumpers, but sadly, his confidence was shot, yesterday, and for much of this series.

Does not hurt his D, but the Cavs really needed another ball handler. Delly has the guts but not the physical talent/skills to run things well while James is out. If Shumpert had Delly's guts, he would be a great player, but even then, you wonder about how he has fine tuned his game when he looks like I would look driving to the basket.

Shump seems to fall apart on the way to the rim..It's baffling..To me, Della is not an option, you lose his spot up shooting and he tries to post and go one on one which is just insane, it's a turnover..

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Blatt made a few mistakes tonight ..Moz need floor time..Della should not be the orchestrator at the top of the key..He needs to be a catch and shoot guy..JR was on the bench too long..came back in the game at 6:47 in the 4th..

Delly should play D and wait for the 3, but nobody else on that team seems to have the desire to handle the ball when James is not doing it.

Well they haven't been doing it all year..Shump could bring up the ball..

Anyone can see that he is totally afraid to assert himself. He was hesitant to shoot from deep, and to take it to the hole, and when he did penetrate he looked horrible for the most part.

Hit a few jumpers, but sadly, his confidence was shot, yesterday, and for much of this series.

Does not hurt his D, but the Cavs really needed another ball handler. Delly has the guts but not the physical talent/skills to run things well while James is out. If Shumpert had Delly's guts, he would be a great player, but even then, you wonder about how he has fine tuned his game when he looks like I would look driving to the basket.

Shump seems to fall apart on the way to the rim..It's baffling..To me, Della is not an option, you lose his spot up shooting and he tries to post and go one on one which is just insane, it's a turnover..

Delly is a side dish...you ask him to be too large a part of the meal and he gets exposed, although his D on Curry was pretty wonderful at times.

Yup- Shumpert is a complete puzzle, and arguably the most frustrating Knick I've rooted for in recent years. He should be a Bruce Bowen/Danny Green type of contributor, but you just can't depend on him for consistency on the offensive end in a series where each possession counts.

I agree, I said this in another thread before the finals started. Shump and JR are good at being the 4th and 5th option. Their inconsistencies does not hurt the team then. You can not rely on them to be the 2nd and 3rd option like they were on the Knicks and they are now. JR is as streaky as they come and he makes too many bonehead mistakes at the worst possible time. Shump has to have the worst open layup miss percentage in the league. He can only shoot wide open 3's with any kind of consistency.

yellowboy90 wrote:It's really amazing how much better Della plays Curry than Shump. Shump really needs to get better playing screens.

Wasn't Delly a rugby player, too? Going through picks is no big thing.

Last game he did a good job not going for Curry's fakes, but it is hard impossible to stop Curry when everything is going right.

yellowboy90 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Thompson showing a good little hook- 2 so far. They might want to explore using that more.

That's why you can't explore it at least when James is it. When he is in maybe but it is so out of character for the cavs. The Cavs are playing like Mike Woodson is their coach. It's okay to post up/iso but run movement to free up the player first and not let the defense set up.

Iggy making it tough for him to drive to the basket all the time- might be nice to vary his use.