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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
![]() gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:djsunyc wrote:btw, and this may not be a popular stance but imho, the main reason why LGBT community received as many rights as they have already is b/c white men are gay too. if being gay was regulated to women only or to a particular non-white race, then they will still be suppressed. This is my favorite right wing talking point. Yes, 150 years ago the Democratic party was the party of slavery since it was the party of the south. For another 100 years, the Democrats continued to be the party of segregation and the south. Then, 1960 happened and JFK ran on a platform that included Civil Rights and, all of a sudden, the South stopped being so Democratic; Alabama and Mississippi both vote for Harry F Bird and Strom Thrumond. Both are Democrats but obviously weren't the Democratic nominees; they ran on a platform against school desegregation. Then, in 1964, LBJ is elected in a wave election over segregationist Republican Barry Goldwater who won 6 states: SC, GA, MS, AL, LA, and AZ. Excluding Arizona, this is the first time in nearly 100 years that a Republican wins any of those states and, as far as I can tell, the first time ever a Republican wins Georgia. You have to go back all the way to 1868 and Ulysses S. Grant to find a President who wins any of those 5 states. After that it's basically 100 years for a Republican to win any of those states until they nominate segregationist Barry Goldwater. And, I already know what you're going to say next because you people have a script that you're unable to deviate from. "VCoug, more Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats! Obviously, Democrats are the real racists!" First of all, that's not true. A higher percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats but it was passed with pretty much overwhelming support from both parties but with more Democratic votes. In the House, Democrats vote in favor 153-96 and Republicans 138-34. In the Senate, Democrats vote in favor 46-21 and Republicans 27-6. But, if you dig just a little deeper you'll notice that Southerners vote aginsts in pretty overwhelming numbers. In the House, Southern Democrats vote against 87-8 and Southern Republicans 0-10. In the Senate; Southern Democrats vote against 20-1 and Southern Republicans 0-1. Southern here is defined as the old Confederacy. In addition, if you look through the actual votes in the House and the Senate, you can look up the individual histories of the Nay votes and see that at least a decent amount of the Democratic nays switch parties by the time Nixon is running for his 2nd term. It's almost as if political parties aren't sentient beings but are made up of other people and reflect those people's views. So if those people are racist, or at least more racist than their counterparts, then the party reflects that racism. And it seems as if the white Southerners are generally more racist than the rest of the country. Which party is the party of white Southerners again? Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
![]() gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Go travelling, you'll find Obama was very widely respected, more so than most presidents, and Trump is internationally despised and a joke among people and country leaders (apart from the far right politicians). But yes Trump is more respected than Obama among fascists - what an achievement. Anti Obama feeling was entirely a right wing construction in America. |
dodger78
Posts: 20907 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 6/7/2002 Member: #250 Germany |
![]() smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again +1 |
arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
![]() dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Political leader is respected when he/she is feared. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Assert our power? In what way do you mean? Everyone already knows the U.S. is the most powerful nation on Earth. Many nations rely on this fact. Trump represents instability and not security. |
arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
![]() nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Asserting the power means clearly define your position and use it. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
![]() arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again The blind Republican view of things who only see black and white in the world and no greys... |
smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
![]() arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again You fear leaders you fear, you respect leaders your respect- fearing someone is not respecting them. Leaders fear Trump not because they think he's strong but because they wonder what blunder that oaf will end up doing- much like the latter years of Boris Yeltzin When he was a drunk with his finger on the nuclear button. |
meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
![]() smackeddog wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again See how jacked up his thinking is? For a guy who supposedly escaped from Russia, he still worships totalitarianism and fear tactics. You can take people or of Russia, but you can't take Russia out of those people. The propaganda runs deep. I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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meloanyk
Posts: 20768 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/5/2013 Member: #5615 |
![]() arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Yep. Anyone who thinks that the world or America is in a better state of global affairs then when President Obama took over is delusional. Plenty of weak kneed people are respected for their dignity and decency but those commendable personal traits mean little in the rough and tumble world where self interests rule. . A naive President Obama was led around by that jackass Clinton at the start and made so many early mistakes with the Arab Spring and compounding Bush's fockups resulted in him becoming paralyzed outside using drones and pontificating. Russian reset, red lines, two state blah blah. His words rang hollow and nations including NATO knew that there would be no teeth for aggressive actions beyond sanctions. Iran, Russia, China and Assad were all empowered as well as other regimes and became dismissive. Thought it was so hypocritical for President Obama to speak about Syrian refugees given his lack of leadership that allowed that crisis to flourish |
smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
![]() meloanyk wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again What did you want him to do? Wage war on all Arab spring countries, Egypt, Libya, etc as well as maintain war in Iraq, plus start more wars vs Iran and Syria (which side do you support in Syria by the way? Assad, Al queda or ISIS). Because the wars vs Afghanistan and Iraq were so successful! |
fishmike
Posts: 53837 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() VCoug wrote:I really enjoy when ignorance is tackled with information. Amazing post. At some point this will degrade into an attack on how smart democrats think they are. Turns out its not the silent majority, its the stupid majority.gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:djsunyc wrote:btw, and this may not be a popular stance but imho, the main reason why LGBT community received as many rights as they have already is b/c white men are gay too. if being gay was regulated to women only or to a particular non-white race, then they will still be suppressed. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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fishmike
Posts: 53837 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() smackeddog wrote:Its a common theme from the right. No looking at the other side of the coin or considering the actual setting. You get this alot when you hear about the deficit balooning under Obama. Imagine if he sat by and let the US auto industry dry up and die? Or the entire economy destabilized and our banking system crumbled? Obama made tough ballsy calls and ultimately decided that the above points were worth the financial hit.meloanyk wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again What is tough is GOP has created a setting for all blame to fall on the current administration. Trump is in for a tough haul. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
![]() He is out and Steve Bannon in:
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
![]() meloanyk wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Right, our NATO allies had no respect for Obama but love Trump who has said that NATO countries don't pay their fare share and that https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-15/trump-calls-nato-obsolete-and-dismisses-eu-in-german-interview Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
![]() fishmike wrote:smackeddog wrote:Its a common theme from the right. No looking at the other side of the coin or considering the actual setting. You get this alot when you hear about the deficit balooning under Obama. Imagine if he sat by and let the US auto industry dry up and die? Or the entire economy destabilized and our banking system crumbled? Obama made tough ballsy calls and ultimately decided that the above points were worth the financial hit.meloanyk wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:dodger78 wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:meloanyk wrote:nyk4ever wrote:djsunyc wrote:bannon - make amerikkka white again Obama only added about 1 trillion to the debt via a stimulus to restart the economy. The bank bailout and auto industry bailout was paid back to the government with interest...The additional 8 or so trillion was already baked into the cake with Bush Wars and tax cuts...I have posted the composition of the current debt already and will do so again when I find the chart... |