blkexec wrote:

blkexec wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Very little offensive plays. Seems like less than 10 per game. It's all ISO, all the time. I have seen one PnR per game at most. When our ISOs are not effective we cannot generate points. He is the best coach we have had in a while tho, still. Not sure if it's possible to get someone better. He does have his warts tho

But the FO knew defensive COY had very little offensive plays. Heck I knew that b4 we hired him. Thibs allows his players to dictate the offense. Not a lot of structure on that end. But what’s more disturbing is the defense, which supposed to be his specialty. 🤔

Since this thread is so old you get to see all the other NorCal over reactions from 2022. But I think some responses are still relevant.

Sam was 3 yrs early. I wonder if you ask Sam now after the success Thibs had since 2022, if he would still want to fire Thibs?

What I said back then is how I feel today. Thibs has a cap and FO is racing against JBs prime timeline. With that said it’s a good move. Me personally I would’ve promoted Thibs to a FO position (or offered him that much). But there’s more juice to squeeze out of this offense. That alone is a ceiling Thibs can’t break.

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BigDaddyG wrote:

blkexec wrote:

blkexec wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Very little offensive plays. Seems like less than 10 per game. It's all ISO, all the time. I have seen one PnR per game at most. When our ISOs are not effective we cannot generate points. He is the best coach we have had in a while tho, still. Not sure if it's possible to get someone better. He does have his warts tho

But the FO knew defensive COY had very little offensive plays. Heck I knew that b4 we hired him. Thibs allows his players to dictate the offense. Not a lot of structure on that end. But what’s more disturbing is the defense, which supposed to be his specialty. 🤔

Since this thread is so old you get to see all the other NorCal over reactions from 2022. But I think some responses are still relevant.

Sam was 3 yrs early. I wonder if you ask Sam now after the success Thibs had since 2022, if he would still want to fire Thibs?

What I said back then is how I feel today. Thibs has a cap and FO is racing against JBs prime timeline. With that said it’s a good move. Me personally I would’ve promoted Thibs to a FO position (or offered him that much). But there’s more juice to squeeze out of this offense. That alone is a ceiling Thibs can’t break.

Jeff Teague mentioned on his podcast that Thibs was still using the same plays that he used in Minnesota and Chicago. He said he was using the same post up plays for KAT that he used for Noah and Yaj. If that's true, then yeah, the offense needed a shake up. Scoring seemed to be too hard this season, given the talent on the starting 5. I gave Thibs a bit of a pass because I thought the bench was trash and that fall strictly on the FO. Didn't realize the players were as annoyed as they were tho.

Once Bridges called Thibs out in public we should have known they were frustrated. He is usually a non confrontational guy. mcbride waited until the season was over because he could have been put in Thibs dog house and never get playing time.

Good point

Also we won 50 plus games with the worse starting 5 in the nba. With hart in the lineup, teams was playing 5 on 4 and leaving hart open. Hart came over in a bench role and later became a starter. But I always thought that was a temporary move that became permanent.

By then Thibs was married to that lineup and refused to change it until the ECF. Deuce would’ve been an interesting starter option and would’ve added floor spacing and forced teams to guard all 5 players.

But the writing was on the wall 3 yrs ago. I thought adding more offensive coordinator’s in his coaching staff would’ve helped him.