Posted by Travla:

I'll have to take back what I said. I can't get the game so I just thought that Steph didn't want to take the last shot.....I was wrong.
14 missed FT's. Why didn't they foul with 40 sec left and up by 5?
I believe that is where the mistake was made by coach Williams. I see that time and time again, why let the other team shoot when you don't have to?

You DO NOT foul in that situation. Stop the clock, let them cut it to 3, hold onto until 16 second mark, and hope you score?

Posted by MaTT4281:

Posted by Travla:

I'll have to take back what I said. I can't get the game so I just thought that Steph didn't want to take the last shot.....I was wrong.
14 missed FT's. Why didn't they foul with 40 sec left and up by 5?
I believe that is where the mistake was made by coach Williams. I see that time and time again, why let the other team shoot when you don't have to?

You DO NOT foul in that situation. Stop the clock, let them cut it to 3, hold onto until 16 second mark, and hope you score?

the real problem was not calling time out after the Bibby three. They had two. Time out there advances the ball to half court.

HOLY SHIT I went out for my friends birthday and was following the game on my phone. HOW THE HELL DID WE LOSE??

Posted by crzymdups:

The way these loses are coming, it really just feels like it's not our year. I know that's a cliche, but this loss is ridiculous. I can't believe this.

we'll go back to the detroit example, that's the only way i can look at it. they were 30-52 one year, then added rick carlisle as coach and cliff robinson to the same roster and went 50-32. i'm hoping that happens to us.

i just watched the game on DVR...Marbury was the reason the team didn't lose the lead in the 3rd quarter...he was totally unstoppable in the 2nd half...his defense wasn't good on Bibby, but Bibby was also making some unbelievable shots right in his face, including that clutch 3 pointer he had in the closing seconds that sparked their late game comeback...the 1 thing i can fault Marbury for last night was not taking the final shot & passing it off to Penny Hardaway who was about to be double teamed...but maybe he really wanted Penny to have the shot so he could redeem himself for the 2 boneheaded mistakes he made in the stretch on the errant inbounds pass that allowed SAC to tie the game & on the subsequent missed wide open 3...still, Marbury should have taken that shot because he was just rolling last night...that's the 1 thing on offense that he needs to work on, being willing to take that last big shot...he passes off on way too many occasions when the game is on the line...bigtime players don't do that.

i give big props to Tim Thomas & Nazr Mohammed too...they were awesome last night...Nazr was being forceful down low, & Tim had his best game of the season by far last night driving to the hoop & playing very good D...

Sweetney was horrible, committing foul after foul & getting back late on help defense...he made 1 good move in the post that got him a bucket, but missed some FT's & generally was not a factor at all in the game...

KT was solid, grabbing a good amount of boards & hitting some shots early on, but he & Nazr left Brad Miller wide open on too many occasions & he was killing us all game long.

Penny was the goat of last night...his crucial T/O on the inbounds & the missed 3 killed us...i can't fault him for the last play that he got double teamed on because that was Stephon's shot all the way.

overall, a great effort & some good cameraderie shown last night, but still a LOSS...this team needs to learn how to close out games, i say it time & time again...hopefully they get it someday.


[Edited by - TMS on 02/05/2005 16:31:21]

i agree guns, it was another example of Marbury passing up the final shot when it mattered most...it was a bad decision by him.

Posted by gunsnewing:

dont forget the 2 missed free throws yet again...he's missed both free throws at least 3 or 4 times this year with under 1min left. They would've sealed the game.

everyone was missing FT's...on both teams...they expended alot of energy playing some real exciting ball...i can't single out Marbury for that.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

dont forget the 2 missed free throws yet again...he's missed both free throws at least 3 or 4 times this year with under 1min left. They would've sealed the game.

everyone was missing FT's...on both teams...they expended alot of energy playing some real exciting ball...i can't single out Marbury for that.

I would agree if he didn't miss 2 FT's 80% of the time with under 1min eft. This wasnt the first time it was the 4th time he's done that! I've never seen a bigger choker in my life!

come on, that's unfair...Mike Bibby is 1 of the most clutch players in the game & he missed plenty of FT's down the stretch...they were all playing hard out there...Marbury just made a bad decision on the last possession...that's the 1 thing i think he needs to work on in his offensive game...his defense needs ALOT of work too.

Oh man did that one hurt last night. I'd been able to handle the last several losses with the "rebuilding/lottery" strategy, but last night I was really rooting hard for the win all the way (thanks alot for hooking me on a 7th game for the championship, Guns ) Anyway, I saw it as Penny being the goat all the way. I didn't feel badly for him - I was pissed as hell at him. And of course that grating Mike Breen (anyone else finding him more and more insufferable as the season goes on) telling us about 10 times in the 4th quarter about how those missed free throws are "going to come back to haunt" us?? Now he thinks he's even more of a genius! Grrrr....

Anyway that game totally sucked. The only consoling thought is that Clyde was hysterical last night. He said someone was extremely omnipotent. I mean omnipotence pretty much says it all, doesn't it? Then to be extremely omnipotent on top of it??? I do love Clyde, he's entertaining as hell, and if he could provide me with a laugh after that totally depressing game, then he's even more extremely omnipotent than I thought.