BlueKnickers wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:One thing I want to go back to was that 2013 second round series vs Indiana. That team was really the only good team Melo ever had in New York with Kidd, Pablo, Rasheed, Kenyon, and Camby all providing boosts to Melo and JR playing at their best.

Knicks got screwed by the NBA that series because their series with Boston went to six and they only had a day off before a 3:30 start at the garden. I always felt that series was kind of Paul George's coming out party (he won MIP that season). Anyway, I really enjoy the karma of the same thing happening to a now 35 old Paul George 13 years later.

We went to six vs. Boston because (a) Melo was gimpy in those playoffs, (b) JR Smith was an irresponsible jerk who partied all night and showed up at the game drunk and played like ass, (c) the team was immature even with the vets and they chose to wear all black on their trip to Boston because they thought it was going to be Boston's funeral and (d) the vets were all about to expire and had limited gas tanks. Kidd had one good game. By the time they played Indy JR and Melo were not that good and Roy Hibbert completely embarrassed Tyson Chandler who was worse than useless. It was maybe the best Knicks team of the century up to that point, but it was not a good team.

Don't forget Jason Terry baiting JR into a head butt that led to him being suspended.

That was a tough series especially considering the score was tied over six games. And yeah, that wearing black **** was weak. Woodson was a good coach but he never really controlled the team.

JR was a disaster. I disowned him after I saw him sitting on the bench unable to focus his eyes because he was so wasted at the matinee game.

While that team was not likely to go much deeper into the playoffs than they did anyway, JR did everything he could to undermine their chances.

And Woodson refused to bench JR who was bricking up a storm and he buried Copeland on the bench who was the only guy hitting 3 pointers with any consistency. By the time he woke up and played Copeland real minutes later in the Indy series it was already too late. Copeland was not a great player, but he was in those playoffs a vastly better player than a broken JR.

2012-2013 Knicks were fun tho. A 54 win team that was Melo and the cast of “where are they now?”

Watching Kurt Thomas at the absolute end of his career sacrifice his body for a regular season road win at Utah was dramatic to say the least.

BlueKnickers wrote:Play Kolek

Do it for Martin and Blue Knickers coach

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MaTT4281 wrote:Thrilled with the result, but we can actually improve on this pretty substantially. Fouls obviously the biggest concern, with the ticky tack calls Embiid gets, need to stop trying to reach in. Mitch and KAT were limited (20 min / 12 min respectively). Brunson was sensational, but we can lighten the load for him going forward.

Let's get another blowout in game 2...crush some souls before heading to Philly.

On point!

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BlueKnickers wrote:Play Kolek

Do it for Martin and Blue Knickers coach

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They’ll be on the kiss-cam before the series is over.

Somewhere Ron Baker is saying, “awesome hair, bro”

Martin, I was sorry to read you had some health issue; hope you’re on the mend

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BlueKnickers wrote:Kolek's feel for the game is so much more advanced than Jose's

Agreed, but I can see why Brown plays Jose- his on the ball pressure is a game changer.

Jose is quicker. He's more of a pest than a great defender and it can lead to some deflections or steals.

Kolek's defensive attitude improved early in the season. He now stays in front of his man about 90% of the time.

Kolek's knowledge of the game and floor generalship is vastly better than any small advantage Jose has on defense.

Jose doesn't know how to set up an offense. He'll get some good alley oops now and then and some good straight line attacks at the rim for an easy bucket.

I like Jose well enough, but he's not an essential player. Kolek however is the only actual PG on this team and he's good at it. Brunson is a PG in name mostly, but in reality he's a shoot first combo guard who's in the role of PG because he has the ball in his hands the majority of the time. We should be running Kolek as Brunson's replacement. It literally makes no sense to play Jose over Kolek. Tyler gets everyone involved and we usually outscore teams when he's running the show.

This is all true. I’ll add that Jose can get a little too amped and get dumb fouls and his antics w CJ were dumb. Woke CJ up and we lost some games because of that.

And it’s not just that kolek is a true pg. he’s a true pg in the old sense where he passes guys open nd makes something out of nothing adding a different dimension to the team. Think about the impact on defenders. They have to work that much harder knowing the guy they’re covering can get the ball any time, any where.

Kolek has to be the future.

I'd add that there may be an experience gap too, especially at a playoff level. Not that GTA is a world beater in that space, but he has been a part of that atmosphere.

Kolek gonna get his run next year.

Man, I hope the Knicks find their Ayo type guard in the draft. Need someone to replace GTA, Shamet, Clarkson long term.

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Philc1 wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:One thing I want to go back to was that 2013 second round series vs Indiana. That team was really the only good team Melo ever had in New York with Kidd, Pablo, Rasheed, Kenyon, and Camby all providing boosts to Melo and JR playing at their best.

Knicks got screwed by the NBA that series because their series with Boston went to six and they only had a day off before a 3:30 start at the garden. I always felt that series was kind of Paul George's coming out party (he won MIP that season). Anyway, I really enjoy the karma of the same thing happening to a now 35 old Paul George 13 years later.

We went to six vs. Boston because (a) Melo was gimpy in those playoffs, (b) JR Smith was an irresponsible jerk who partied all night and showed up at the game drunk and played like ass, (c) the team was immature even with the vets and they chose to wear all black on their trip to Boston because they thought it was going to be Boston's funeral and (d) the vets were all about to expire and had limited gas tanks. Kidd had one good game. By the time they played Indy JR and Melo were not that good and Roy Hibbert completely embarrassed Tyson Chandler who was worse than useless. It was maybe the best Knicks team of the century up to that point, but it was not a good team.

Don't forget Jason Terry baiting JR into a head butt that led to him being suspended.

That was a tough series especially considering the score was tied over six games. And yeah, that wearing black **** was weak. Woodson was a good coach but he never really controlled the team.

JR was a disaster. I disowned him after I saw him sitting on the bench unable to focus his eyes because he was so wasted at the matinee game.

While that team was not likely to go much deeper into the playoffs than they did anyway, JR did everything he could to undermine their chances.

And Woodson refused to bench JR who was bricking up a storm and he buried Copeland on the bench who was the only guy hitting 3 pointers with any consistency. By the time he woke up and played Copeland real minutes later in the Indy series it was already too late. Copeland was not a great player, but he was in those playoffs a vastly better player than a broken JR.

2012-2013 Knicks were fun tho. A 54 win team that was Melo and the cast of “where are they now?”

Watching Kurt Thomas at the absolute end of his career sacrifice his body for a regular season road win at Utah was dramatic to say the least.

Kurt Thomas died for our sins that day. Had to be the most noble last game of a career I've ever witnessed