newyorknewyork wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Miles Turner last 5 games
4pts-3rebs-2blks-0threes
12pts-1reb-1blks-1stl-3threes
19pts-2rebs-1blk-3threes
9pts-3rebs-2blks-1three
9pts-3rebs-1blks-3threes

Year1: $25.3mil
Year2: $26.6mil
Year3: $27.8mil
Year4: $29.1mil player option.

This is the avenue to net Giannis while reducing the cost of asset capital & avoiding having to give up the wings.

He's definitely a negative asset, and one that might help MIL win a few more games which they wouldn't want.

Thing is, to match contracts you'd have to add one of our other big salary wings.

joec32033 put out the play to make without the wings. Mitch($13mil, Yabusele($5.5mil), Dadiet($2.8mil), Kolek($2.2mil), Clarkson($2.3mil)

not sure that works. Even if salaries match that means we are trading 5 for 2 and would need to fill 3 roster spots. Not sure we'd have room with the 2nd apron to legally do that.

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:very redundant with Deuce, and Jose is a FA after this year. Would only makes sense if we are trading Deuce in a package elsewhere. And Deuce is signed through next season.

He is redundant with Deuce but also an incredible upgrade over Kolek, worlds better although I havent watched him a ton.

You could pair Deuce and Alvarado. Or start Deuce in a pinch. If Brunson misses time, the drop off and replacement is much easier.

I don't know what it would take to get Alvarado but NOP also in a position to lose him for nothing if they don't trade him.

a luxury but we are honestly good with Clarkson, Kolek and Deuce. I'd rather go after a wing like Saddiq Bey from them.

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:very redundant with Deuce, and Jose is a FA after this year. Would only makes sense if we are trading Deuce in a package elsewhere. And Deuce is signed through next season.

He is redundant with Deuce but also an incredible upgrade over Kolek, worlds better although I havent watched him a ton.

You could pair Deuce and Alvarado. Or start Deuce in a pinch. If Brunson misses time, the drop off and replacement is much easier.

I don't know what it would take to get Alvarado but NOP also in a position to lose him for nothing if they don't trade him.

a luxury but we are honestly good with Clarkson, Kolek and Deuce. I'd rather go after a wing like Saddiq Bey from them.

I have a different take. Clarkson, Kolek, and Deuce have been OK. Knicks have also not really been tested at the playoff level regarding their secondary PG play.

I think Alvarado would be a clear upgrade and put Deuce and Clarkson in better positions to just focus on their strengths, which include more scoring instead of facilitating.

Nalod wrote:Looking at Dinks boxscores shows a very high volume shot rate with not great % to get those numbers. Not gonna over think the Dink.
Alvarado misses a lot of games. At 27 and Nola in the tank they likley will let him walk. I do think he'd be an asset here but maybe Nola lets released him before the end of season so he can catch on somewhere where he'd get playing time if the start playing yoots to develop.
at the same time Kolek is progressing.

Knicks are doing well!

Deuce has played exactly 4 more games than Alvarado, they are both in their 5th year.

I don't get why NOP would keep a guy just so that they can release him instead of trading him for assets cause other teams would pay?

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martin wrote:The downside of trading KAT

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If Kat could just stop with silly plays/fouls, guard some and take good shots -- HE'S AWESOME.

Thought last night may have been his best (clean) game as a Knick and for large parts we ignored him offensively.

It's kind of amazing how a big slow guy with size 19 feet can face up and get by guys over and over again (often times without a shot fake).

I can't tell if KAT has been playing better on the defensive end of the court but the stats play that out.

And as long as the Knicks are a NET positive with their extraordinary offense, I guess we can live with his foibles.

nycericanguy wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Miles Turner last 5 games
4pts-3rebs-2blks-0threes
12pts-1reb-1blks-1stl-3threes
19pts-2rebs-1blk-3threes
9pts-3rebs-2blks-1three
9pts-3rebs-1blks-3threes

Year1: $25.3mil
Year2: $26.6mil
Year3: $27.8mil
Year4: $29.1mil player option.

This is the avenue to net Giannis while reducing the cost of asset capital & avoiding having to give up the wings.

He's definitely a negative asset, and one that might help MIL win a few more games which they wouldn't want.

Thing is, to match contracts you'd have to add one of our other big salary wings.

joec32033 put out the play to make without the wings. Mitch($13mil, Yabusele($5.5mil), Dadiet($2.8mil), Kolek($2.2mil), Clarkson($2.3mil)

not sure that works. Even if salaries match that means we are trading 5 for 2 and would need to fill 3 roster spots. Not sure we'd have room with the 2nd apron to legally do that.

Forgot to include Towns....and it didn't include Clarkson.

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Myles Turner

Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Alex Antetokounmpo

Outgoing Players

Karl-Anthony Towns

Mitchell Robinson

Guerschon Yabusele

Pacome Dadiet

Tyler Kolek

Ariel Hukporti

Pick swaps (available) to 2028, Washington pick and multiple 2nds

Possibly add Diawara and McCuller

ramtour420 wrote:KAT was a monster last playoffs. If we take more advantage of his passing ( already doing more of it comparing to last year it seems)and if he tightens up his fouls and ref chat= that's going to " unlock KAT" and I do think that an " unlocked" KAT a clear, definite and realistic goal that should allow us to get to the Finals, at least

Unlocking KAT is him developing a consistent post game and punishing teams when they decide to put smaller players on him. Stop allowing smaller players to push him all the way out to the three point line then trying to drive on them like he's a G. Instead establishing deep post position using his size. Combine that with the potential shooters that can be lined up around him...

This would make him pretty much ungradable given his ability to shoot from distance.

Adding a Dirk one legged fade would also be amazing. This also isn't even touching on the untapped potential as a PNP monster with Brunson given his capabilities shooting. Needs to work on setting better picks though.

I don't think the Knicks cave here....I think they wait it out - if this team fails in the postseason, then they pull out all stops if its still a possibility.

If it happens this season, than it's a matter of whether Miami wants to get aggressive. They would need to part with Ware. Wiggins and/or Herro have to be a part of the package for the salaries. Probably both and they could throw in Rozier too. Something like Giannis, Kuzma, Portis for Ware, Herro, Wiggins and Rozier works in the cap and will clear cap quicker for Milwaukee while giving them a couple of decent pieces to build on.

Question - do you fear a Miami team with Davion/Powell/Jaquez/Giannis/Bam? Bench of Kuzma, Portis, Smith, Fontecchio, Larsson. That's pretty good