HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/sports/ben-simmons-rejects-knicks-contract-offer-and-gets-dropped-by-his-agent/

This guy is a waste of time.

Begly say's knicks never made an offer?
If his back really hurts maybe we cut him some slack? He had a monster contract and tried over 4 years.
The whole "he quit on his team" is kind of one sided. Rivers kind of quit on him too. That injury was real. He had real surgery.
Not saying the guy is a warrior by any stretch. He made a bad play, got thrown under the bus and wanted out and was injured.
Not all back procudures go great. If he is contimplating retirement and indecisive and no more big money his agent is also bailing on him? Maybe? Perhaps the moment of clarity arises when Simmons realizes he doe not have much left physically or mentally? Self actualizaton might be in his wheel house.

or, he is still a entitled little ****?

Either way if he is not right physically, mentally, or both MSG is not the place to restart a career on a win now team.

Saw that. Possible support to that is that teams were known to be sitting back until end of September. However, maybe some truth to him and his side wanting more than the minimum.

My feel, despite the hope he would be added for cheap and that he would resurrect his career, is WHY bother with Ben? Nets had same dream and ended up being a bit far sighted.
We have improved the roster, imo, so see more risk in now adding a player that has had mental issues and has no confidence in his shot. Yes he is a versatile defender but you need a guy that can hit a shot in the playoffs . Since teams will make guys like him beat you.
I would have preferred Brogdon but know that was always a long shot with limited funds.
At this point even Westbrook looks better suited to contribute.
My preference is Wright or Shamet. Both Played decently and bring familiarity. Do feel we need an experienced back up PG but think Shamet will have a really good year since he is coming off some good games in the playoffs and will hopefully have a healthier start.

I'd go as far as guessing that Ben couldn't get a guaranteed min contract offer and that was the holdup.

If I'm the Knicks and I had some desire for Simmons on roster, I'd make it guarantee in January to see how the first months go.

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/sports/ben-simmons-rejects-knicks-contract-offer-and-gets-dropped-by-his-agent/

This guy is a waste of time.

Begly say's knicks never made an offer?
If his back really hurts maybe we cut him some slack? He had a monster contract and tried over 4 years.
The whole "he quit on his team" is kind of one sided. Rivers kind of quit on him too. That injury was real. He had real surgery.
Not saying the guy is a warrior by any stretch. He made a bad play, got thrown under the bus and wanted out and was injured.
Not all back procudures go great. If he is contimplating retirement and indecisive and no more big money his agent is also bailing on him? Maybe? Perhaps the moment of clarity arises when Simmons realizes he doe not have much left physically or mentally? Self actualizaton might be in his wheel house.

or, he is still a entitled little ****?

Either way if he is not right physically, mentally, or both MSG is not the place to restart a career on a win now team.

Saw that. Possible support to that is that teams were known to be sitting back until end of September. However, maybe some truth to him and his side wanting more than the minimum.

My feel, despite the hope he would be added for cheap and that he would resurrect his career, is WHY bother with Ben? Nets had same dream and ended up being a bit far sighted.
We have improved the roster, imo, so see more risk in now adding a player that has had mental issues and has no confidence in his shot. Yes he is a versatile defender but you need a guy that can hit a shot in the playoffs . Since teams will make guys like him beat you.
I would have preferred Brogdon but know that was always a long shot with limited funds.
At this point even Westbrook looks better suited to contribute.
My preference is Wright or Shamet. Both Played decently and bring familiarity. Do feel we need an experienced back up PG but think Shamet will have a really good year since he is coming off some good games in the playoffs and will hopefully have a healthier start.

I'd go as far as guessing that Ben couldn't get a guaranteed min contract offer and that was the holdup.

If I'm the Knicks and I had some desire for Simmons on roster, I'd make it guarantee in January to see how the first months go.

Seems like he may have at least rejected interest.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25247463-ben-simmons-agent-reportedly-cut-ties-after-pg-dismissed-knicks-interest-amid-rumors

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/sports/ben-simmons-rejects-knicks-contract-offer-and-gets-dropped-by-his-agent/

This guy is a waste of time.

Begly say's knicks never made an offer?
If his back really hurts maybe we cut him some slack? He had a monster contract and tried over 4 years.
The whole "he quit on his team" is kind of one sided. Rivers kind of quit on him too. That injury was real. He had real surgery.
Not saying the guy is a warrior by any stretch. He made a bad play, got thrown under the bus and wanted out and was injured.
Not all back procudures go great. If he is contimplating retirement and indecisive and no more big money his agent is also bailing on him? Maybe? Perhaps the moment of clarity arises when Simmons realizes he doe not have much left physically or mentally? Self actualizaton might be in his wheel house.

or, he is still a entitled little ****?

Either way if he is not right physically, mentally, or both MSG is not the place to restart a career on a win now team.

Saw that. Possible support to that is that teams were known to be sitting back until end of September. However, maybe some truth to him and his side wanting more than the minimum.

My feel, despite the hope he would be added for cheap and that he would resurrect his career, is WHY bother with Ben? Nets had same dream and ended up being a bit far sighted.
We have improved the roster, imo, so see more risk in now adding a player that has had mental issues and has no confidence in his shot. Yes he is a versatile defender but you need a guy that can hit a shot in the playoffs . Since teams will make guys like him beat you.
I would have preferred Brogdon but know that was always a long shot with limited funds.
At this point even Westbrook looks better suited to contribute.
My preference is Wright or Shamet. Both Played decently and bring familiarity. Do feel we need an experienced back up PG but think Shamet will have a really good year since he is coming off some good games in the playoffs and will hopefully have a healthier start.

I'd go as far as guessing that Ben couldn't get a guaranteed min contract offer and that was the holdup.

If I'm the Knicks and I had some desire for Simmons on roster, I'd make it guarantee in January to see how the first months go.

Seems like he may have at least rejected interest.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25247463-ben-simmons-agent-reportedly-cut-ties-after-pg-dismissed-knicks-interest-amid-rumors

Well, he has lost interest in shooting the basketball too, so that's no surprise as to why he can't get a contract.

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/sports/ben-simmons-rejects-knicks-contract-offer-and-gets-dropped-by-his-agent/

This guy is a waste of time.

Begly say's knicks never made an offer?
If his back really hurts maybe we cut him some slack? He had a monster contract and tried over 4 years.
The whole "he quit on his team" is kind of one sided. Rivers kind of quit on him too. That injury was real. He had real surgery.
Not saying the guy is a warrior by any stretch. He made a bad play, got thrown under the bus and wanted out and was injured.
Not all back procudures go great. If he is contimplating retirement and indecisive and no more big money his agent is also bailing on him? Maybe? Perhaps the moment of clarity arises when Simmons realizes he doe not have much left physically or mentally? Self actualizaton might be in his wheel house.

or, he is still a entitled little ****?

Either way if he is not right physically, mentally, or both MSG is not the place to restart a career on a win now team.

Saw that. Possible support to that is that teams were known to be sitting back until end of September. However, maybe some truth to him and his side wanting more than the minimum.

My feel, despite the hope he would be added for cheap and that he would resurrect his career, is WHY bother with Ben? Nets had same dream and ended up being a bit far sighted.
We have improved the roster, imo, so see more risk in now adding a player that has had mental issues and has no confidence in his shot. Yes he is a versatile defender but you need a guy that can hit a shot in the playoffs . Since teams will make guys like him beat you.
I would have preferred Brogdon but know that was always a long shot with limited funds.
At this point even Westbrook looks better suited to contribute.
My preference is Wright or Shamet. Both Played decently and bring familiarity. Do feel we need an experienced back up PG but think Shamet will have a really good year since he is coming off some good games in the playoffs and will hopefully have a healthier start.

I'd go as far as guessing that Ben couldn't get a guaranteed min contract offer and that was the holdup.

If I'm the Knicks and I had some desire for Simmons on roster, I'd make it guarantee in January to see how the first months go.

Seems like he may have at least rejected interest.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25247463-ben-simmons-agent-reportedly-cut-ties-after-pg-dismissed-knicks-interest-amid-rumors

Well, he has lost interest in shooting the basketball too, so that's no surprise as to why he can't get a contract.

lol. Just a complete breakdown of confidence. Watched him pass up easy shots within a couple of feet from the basket when he was on the Nets. Reason why many think it will be hard to turn him around.

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blkexec wrote:So we going into training camp with the following PGs? And we trying to win a chip with this?

1. Brunson
2. Deuce
3. Clarkson
4. Hart
5. Kolek

Will be interesting to see how Brown plays Kolek or does he only play when there’s an injury? Was hopping by now Kolek would be ready for the backup pg role, but this season he’s 4th or 5th string.

Felt we needed a solid experienced back up PG.
But with little available besides a trade, this result was expected.
Having an abundance of shooters is still key as well. And Shamet did that well and is familiar.
So do like that he is back.
Knicks also signed Mathews to a camp deal. Also a real good shooter but would have to compete with Shamet for the last spot. Which is odd but competition is usually healthy.
Hoping Duece or Kolek take big steps up and contribute. Wish we could take both their strengths and make another player. Maybe they can surprise us and do it on their own.
Don’t think trying to make Clarkson a PG that runs an offense is smart. Best role for him is as a gunner off the bench.

Nalod wrote:and Just like that a PG appears in the form of Brogden.

Wow!! We are set boys.
Think ALL issues have been addressed!
Long Live Leon Rose!

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:and Just like that a PG appears in the form of Brogden.

Wow!! We are set boys.
Think ALL issues have been addressed!
Long Live Leon Rose!

All we had to do was ask. And we shall receive!!

Perfect backup (stay healthy please)