gradyandrew wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:Ben Simmons came back and Doc immediately told him to go home. It seems like the organization is clueless and without a plan. Anyone see during the playoffs how Monty Williams talks to Ayton with love and respect?

Now you can tell us how players refuse to run drills in practice all the time too, right? What is the organization supposed to do? Wait until he attempts to choke Doc or Embiid?

The organization has been trying to get him back to Philly all summer，but they day he came back the coach immediately burned that bridge. Personal management requires different approaches for different workers，not everyone is wired the same. This is a pretty obvious strategy of human resource management.

It seems you would rather deal in idealized vision of the world without any regard to the materialistic reality. It's a common problem of the petit bourgeoisie; your identification with the capitalist class makes you an even stauncher advocate of management than they themselves，because to admit that labor could have a legitimate grievance would require you to abandon your worldview.

Philly has now agreed to pay Ben and his teammates think he just needs time，yet you wish for him to be published for even questioning the worker/ management dynamic.

Do you honestly believe this tripe? An idealized vision of the world? Where a whiney kid on a contract for 171 million dollars gets all pissy because his coach and teammates actually expect the a-hole to improve some basic skills? You need to get your skull out of Chaiman Mao's little red book and possibly revisit your own worldview. Maybe you missed the other co-laborer who spoke about not having the time to think about "that man".

Labor has a legitimate grievance. Please, do tell the workers unite side of the story about the oppression from the bougie men who want your poor laborer to learn to shoot foul shots.

Unreal. I sure hope you're smiling wryly as you post crap like this.

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:The sixers need to trade Simmons even if all they get is picks. The kid is a spoiled jerk, KP with more talent but even dumber, plus I’ll continue to say this he was shaving points in the playoffs last year

And you continue to be proud of that? Create a false narrative when something is illogical to you?
How does dumping simmons help Philly’s team as its currently constructed? If your Josh Harris, the owner of the team who decides on things, like hiring Morey who is not a draft guy, but a wheeler dealer and very good at his job. It would be the owners call to decide what to do.
If they dump him for picks, they don’t win much this year.
If they hold hi out, they don’t win much this year.
If they make a ****ty lopsided deal, they don’t win much this year.
If your changing your prospects and look to rebuild, they don’t win much this year.
If your patient, you COULD get simmons head right to get on the court, play well and you might win more AND have a better trade asset.
Simmons was dumb as rocks last year and the team was the no. 1 seed. He is cutting his nose to spite his face. Perhaps he’ll come around. Its in his and the teams best interests to do so. He needs to get in shape, do some youtube interview that panders to the fans emotions and tugs at their hearts, and play ball.
If he is as rumored to be completely self conscious and obsessed with image he will continue to fail on and off the court. Sixers are motivated to create a path for his return. This is the only logical path that can lead to any good outcome. Even for him to be traded.

The kid is a cancer who doesn’t shoot 3’s. I’m being kind when I allege he shaved points in the playoffs last season because if he didn’t it’s actually a worse situation

The Sixers can get an even better package of picks then we got for Porzingis - and how did that work for us?

I don't think Philadelphia is a top 6 seed without Ben Simmons and imo an 8th/7th seed @ best.

Knicks.
Heat.
Bucks.
Hawks.
Bulls.
Brooklyn.

Are all better than a 76ers team without Ben Simmons.

But with Ben Simmons? Easily a top 3 team in the East.

Ben Simmons despite FT struggles is an impact player and Philly doesn't even know it yet.

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:The sixers need to trade Simmons even if all they get is picks. The kid is a spoiled jerk, KP with more talent but even dumber, plus I’ll continue to say this he was shaving points in the playoffs last year

And you continue to be proud of that? Create a false narrative when something is illogical to you?
How does dumping simmons help Philly’s team as its currently constructed? If your Josh Harris, the owner of the team who decides on things, like hiring Morey who is not a draft guy, but a wheeler dealer and very good at his job. It would be the owners call to decide what to do.
If they dump him for picks, they don’t win much this year.
If they hold hi out, they don’t win much this year.
If they make a ****ty lopsided deal, they don’t win much this year.
If your changing your prospects and look to rebuild, they don’t win much this year.
If your patient, you COULD get simmons head right to get on the court, play well and you might win more AND have a better trade asset.
Simmons was dumb as rocks last year and the team was the no. 1 seed. He is cutting his nose to spite his face. Perhaps he’ll come around. Its in his and the teams best interests to do so. He needs to get in shape, do some youtube interview that panders to the fans emotions and tugs at their hearts, and play ball.
If he is as rumored to be completely self conscious and obsessed with image he will continue to fail on and off the court. Sixers are motivated to create a path for his return. This is the only logical path that can lead to any good outcome. Even for him to be traded.

The kid is a cancer who doesn’t shoot 3’s. I’m being kind when I allege he shaved points in the playoffs last season because if he didn’t it’s actually a worse situation

The Sixers can get an even better package of picks then we got for Porzingis - and how did that work for us?

We did not have a top 5 player (Embiid) nor did we finish the previous season with the top seed in the east.
He was not a cancer last season. Kid is a head case, but how we he a cancer last season if they were good?
Playoffs? Yes, he is wanting. I won’t dispute he caved.

Ben Simmons is a jerkoff. That situation is going to only get worse. Not to mention his entire game is based on athleticism and the longer he wastes his prime like this the worse it gets

He was a jerkoff in college and his 5 years in the NBA. What is a “jerkoff’ on the the court?
He is 25, his game I agree is based on athlicicism, but so is most of the league. Our very Derrick Rose had very much evolve both mentally and fundamentally to be a good 25 min off the bench guy.

Now, I don’t give a rats ass about Simmons, but we all know Simmons is a difficult character and a jerkoff.
Philly has a big problem. Glad its not us.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:The sixers need to trade Simmons even if all they get is picks. The kid is a spoiled jerk, KP with more talent but even dumber, plus I’ll continue to say this he was shaving points in the playoffs last year

And you continue to be proud of that? Create a false narrative when something is illogical to you?
How does dumping simmons help Philly’s team as its currently constructed? If your Josh Harris, the owner of the team who decides on things, like hiring Morey who is not a draft guy, but a wheeler dealer and very good at his job. It would be the owners call to decide what to do.
If they dump him for picks, they don’t win much this year.
If they hold hi out, they don’t win much this year.
If they make a ****ty lopsided deal, they don’t win much this year.
If your changing your prospects and look to rebuild, they don’t win much this year.
If your patient, you COULD get simmons head right to get on the court, play well and you might win more AND have a better trade asset.
Simmons was dumb as rocks last year and the team was the no. 1 seed. He is cutting his nose to spite his face. Perhaps he’ll come around. Its in his and the teams best interests to do so. He needs to get in shape, do some youtube interview that panders to the fans emotions and tugs at their hearts, and play ball.
If he is as rumored to be completely self conscious and obsessed with image he will continue to fail on and off the court. Sixers are motivated to create a path for his return. This is the only logical path that can lead to any good outcome. Even for him to be traded.

The kid is a cancer who doesn’t shoot 3’s. I’m being kind when I allege he shaved points in the playoffs last season because if he didn’t it’s actually a worse situation

The Sixers can get an even better package of picks then we got for Porzingis - and how did that work for us?

We did not have a top 5 player (Embiid) nor did we finish the previous season with the top seed in the east.
He was not a cancer last season. Kid is a head case, but how we he a cancer last season if they were good?
Playoffs? Yes, he is wanting. I won’t dispute he caved.

Ben Simmons is a jerkoff. That situation is going to only get worse. Not to mention his entire game is based on athleticism and the longer he wastes his prime like this the worse it gets

He was a jerkoff in college and his 5 years in the NBA. What is a “jerkoff’ on the the court?
He is 25, his game I agree is based on athlicicism, but so is most of the league. Our very Derrick Rose had very much evolve both mentally and fundamentally to be a good 25 min off the bench guy.

Now, I don’t give a rats ass about Simmons, but we all know Simmons is a difficult character and a jerkoff.
Philly has a big problem. Glad its not us.

+1 on the glad it's not us part.

But if there are wonderful packages out there filled with quality draft picks to be had for dumping that contract, what's Morey been holding out for?
And not for nothing but KP got maxed AFTER we dumped him on Cuban.

Answer: Sixers came in to the season as "Win now".

How does dumping simmons help Philly’s team as its currently constructed? If your Josh Harris, the owner of the team who decides on things, like hiring Morey who is not a draft guy, but a wheeler dealer and very good at his job. It would be the owners call to decide what to do.
If they dump him for picks, they don’t win much this year.
If they hold hi out, they don’t win much this year.
If they make a ****ty lopsided deal, they don’t win much this year.
If your changing your prospects and look to rebuild, they don’t win much this year.
If your patient, you COULD get simmons head right to get on the court, play well and you might win more AND have a better trade asset.