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SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:

VDesai wrote:Yeah Kemba and Rose both need to be limited to 25-30 mins, but this gives us the ability to potentially always have a guard who can penetrate out there with Randle. Lots of pressure on Rose as the only other guy who can get his own bucket or pressure the D when Randle isn't going well. Now with Walker you have another guy who can get his own shot and get to the paint (on top of also adding Fournier).

It also gives you GREAT closing end of game options. He's a fantastic closer. It will really help our late game sets having a clutch scorer on the floor who can handle and get his own shot off.

Kemba is going to be a real impact player for us most night. Knicks are really looking deep at PG now with Kemba/Rose/Luca/McBride

Also this lets us run Rose with that 2nd unit

I think the biggest thing it gives us is 48 high quality minutes.. which allows us to let Rose lead the second unit as you say.. which then makes it hard to pull someone like Trae Young for his scheduled breather. It is going to be tough to let your star get his breath with Randle and RJ playing their minutes, and us ramming high quality PG lay down the opposition's throats

Not to be a buzz kill or anything, but didn't ATL add our man Sharif Cooper as a backup PG? Just sayin...they added talent, too.

CleaverGreene wrote:

dodger78 wrote:I really do not get the hate some of the fans seem to have on the Knicks off-season so far!
You will always be able to discuss the final money of a contract and discuss if Noel is overpayed etc. but the overall strategy is spot on I think!

We kept most of the parts on a team that performed quite well during reg-season last year.
Noel and Gibson were key parts of our defensive identity - especially after Mitch went down! I will NOT overrate Noel vs the Hawks cause it was clear that he was physically hampered by injuries late in the series.
Rose and Burks were brilliant and have a great spot and role on the team!

With those resignings we did not hamper the potential development of our youth and we kept the chemistry and strucutre/roles on the team!

Now EF does provide a great upgrade in one dimension which has been a glaring issue in the Hawks series vs what Bullock was able to provide - with EF and a also a scoring threat like Kemba at the PG position Young would NOT have been able to hide on defense for 95% of his time on the court. Which he did in the series... we discussed wearing him down on D more for the full series... now in this roster set-up he would not be able to save his energy on D!
EF is constantly on the move and is a scoring threat everywhere and Kemba - well I know he is on the downswing but just 3 years ago he was a 25PPG scorer with great shooting percentages during a 82 games season!

So yup I am really happy with what the FO did this off-season... not everything is perfect but hey its really a good strategy they follow and I REALLY like that they are constantly showing us that they are able to be creative and will literally turn every stone for improvement without doing "crazy" stuff!

Good head coach
Some smart veterans
Some promising younger players, some who have already shown actual results on the court
Some decent rookies, despite where we drafted

You also have some "wildcard" players, who, like IQ and Obi might improve significantly their second season, and two rookies, Grimes and Deuce, who might break into the lineup and earn some time, though my thinking is that we won't see much of them (especially McBride), unless we have an injury outbreak.

If everyone stays healthy (Always the biggest "if" for teams I follow), this is a good team, better than last year...even significantly better if Kemba can be 80-90% of what he once was, and Rose stays fresh.

The FO did an A-/B+ type job, IMO.

When you count the pick shift to next season with our number one, this leaves open massive trade options this year or next for a legit superstar...rather than burning the pick this year...gotta go with a solid A-.

Ira wrote:
Jake Fischer
@JakeLFischer
The New York Knicks are planning to offer Kemba Walker a contract worth roughly $8 million in average annual value, according to league sources.

Where did Jake Fischer suddenly appear from?, he’s absolutely nailed it this offseason- gave all the knicks info in advance

dwiley20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Dude blew us off and went to Boston, now he's out of options and wants to come home

exactly

Some of you take this stuff way too personally

VDesai wrote:ESPN article said Kemba had stem cell treatment on his knee just before the season started in September, so the quick turnaround to the next season didn't give him enough time to rehab/get ready. So he missed the first 10 games and was rehabbing on the fly so his shooting numbers were down first half. He rebounded to have a very good 2nd half with a good eFG around 58%, but got hurt the last week or two of the season. Hopefully with a bit more time off this offseason he can get some of that behind him. That and it will make sense to keep his mins down to keep him fresh.

From what I remember, Bill Simmons and his fellow Celtics homers were talking about Kemba’s time in Boston and what went wrong a few weeks ago on one of the ringer podcasts. They said they’d heard one of the issues was when the lockdown happened, teams medical and rehab staff couldn’t meet up and rehab him, so they gave him a care plan and exercises to do for his knee, but when the season resumed, found out he hadn’t done them, and weren’t happy when he couldn’t really play in the bubble as a result, which annoyed the teams management.

Kemba soured on the team due to Ainges usual stuff of looking to trade him (felt betrayed/lied to etc) which soured him on the celtics.

Think he said his knee is probably chronic/degenerative, but sometimes he’d look like the old Kemba and other times a shadow of his former self. Said that the Hornets knew this which was probably why they let him walk, and was annoyed that the celtics either didn’t know or didn’t care until after he signed the contact.

However, I’m really happy with this signing- we avoid having to take a risk on chemistry by signing Schroeder, and the only alternative beyond that would like have been trading for DJ Augustine and his $7mil 2 year contract. Even if it is chronic/degenerative, we should be able to get a season or 2 out of him, which is all we need. We don’t need to play him full time or every game, and even if he struggles with health, he’s such a great chemistry guy and mentor he should help our young guards develop. Also takes some of the pressure off Randle.

Knixkik wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

dwiley20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Dude blew us off and went to Boston, now he's out of options and wants to come home

exactly

Some of you take this stuff way too personally

He didn't want to come here when things were still messy. Now it's better and he does. I don't see any issue there.

That could be true, and that would be the bad part, because it makes you look like you DIDN'T wanna fck wit me when I was down and out

But i ALSO I found out today that his Family and distractions had a lot to do with why he didn't come here, so i respect that part, lets hope it's not a problem now

Moonangie wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:

VDesai wrote:Yeah Kemba and Rose both need to be limited to 25-30 mins, but this gives us the ability to potentially always have a guard who can penetrate out there with Randle. Lots of pressure on Rose as the only other guy who can get his own bucket or pressure the D when Randle isn't going well. Now with Walker you have another guy who can get his own shot and get to the paint (on top of also adding Fournier).

It also gives you GREAT closing end of game options. He's a fantastic closer. It will really help our late game sets having a clutch scorer on the floor who can handle and get his own shot off.

Kemba is going to be a real impact player for us most night. Knicks are really looking deep at PG now with Kemba/Rose/Luca/McBride

Also this lets us run Rose with that 2nd unit

I think the biggest thing it gives us is 48 high quality minutes.. which allows us to let Rose lead the second unit as you say.. which then makes it hard to pull someone like Trae Young for his scheduled breather. It is going to be tough to let your star get his breath with Randle and RJ playing their minutes, and us ramming high quality PG lay down the opposition's throats

Not to be a buzz kill or anything, but didn't ATL add our man Sharif Cooper as a backup PG? Just sayin...they added talent, too.

Yes I loved Sharife Cooper too but they haven't improved as much as NY has (after sweeping them 3-0 regular season before being without Mitchell Robinson come Playoffs).

C: Mitchell Robinson is returning.
SF: Evan Fournier.
PG: Kemba Walker (4x All-Star).

(+ Grimes and McBride).

And more importantly Kemba Walker is an Atlanta killer because he's 4-1 against Trae Young All-Time (.800%) and that's because he attacks Young and exposes his defense, Young can not guard him and Young can not beat KEMBA WALKER).

2019-2020? KEMBA WALKER led Boston into the ECF vs. Miami and took them 6 games after absolutely destroying both Philadelphia and Toronto.

C: Mitchell Robinson.
PF: Julius Randle.
SF: Evan Fournier.
SG: R.J. Barrett.
PG: KEMBA WALKER.

That starting 5 (+ our exciting bench) will absolutely destroy Atlanta.