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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/1/2021 5:22 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Man, the pg options are looking sparse! Maybe our best hope will be via a trade |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
8/1/2021 5:35 PM
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
8/1/2021 6:48 PM
smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Why would we trade anything of value for him? A.) He's led Cleveland as a starting PG to 3 consecutive losing tank season of 19-63, 19-46 and 22-50 = 63-159 (.396%). B.) He plays atrocious Defense (worse than Damian Lillard type bad). C.) He's disliked by his own Cleveland teammates and was called out as being a selfish ball hog (who no one wants to play with). D.) He's an absolute ball-hog with a career average of only 3.4 assists per game and who's also the complete opposite of what our key players such as Immanuel Quickley/R.J. Barrett/Julius Randle/Mitchell Robinson need in order to absolutely flourish (a selfish "PG" who's not pass first but rather chuck first/shoot last). E.) Cleveland is already QUITTING ON HIM only 3 years later after drafting him 8th overall (and I'm sorry but you don't QUIT on a future "All-Star" only 3 years later). I'd give nothing of value for this overrated ESPN media hype I wouldn't even waste a 2nd round pick on him when we just drafted Miles McBride as a potential future PG. On a side note. Bye-bye Frank Ntilikina (another 8th overall BUST) who NY just quit on (and who's doing absolutely nothingness for team France). Collin Sexton is pure trash; and that's why Cleveland wants to QUIT on him (already). |
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ramtour420
Posts: 26363 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 3/19/2007 Member: #1388 Russian Federation |
8/1/2021 6:50 PM
smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Ok now. That narrows it down. We need Sexton!! Get it done !! I would be ok with Lonzo as the consolidation price too Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27649 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
8/1/2021 7:26 PM
NYKMentality wrote:smackeddog wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Lowry a Miami Heat?Isn't he restricted? Can't the heat just match? https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/cap/ Not sure why you think they will be over the hard cap by this potential S&T. Riley isn’t a dummy. Chances are Dragic is intended to be a S&T with Toronto. You know I gonna spin wit it
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27649 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
8/1/2021 7:33 PM
ramtour420 wrote:smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: They have to do something with LaMelo, Frazier, Graham, Bouknight — that’s a lot of positional value even if moving some of these guys to off ball SG. Betting on Graham means they should move Frazier. It makes complete sense to give Graham the QO, let’s see if they walk into the season with these 4 guards. Regardless, Monk is out. I’d take a flyer on him with this UK family. You know I gonna spin wit it
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martin
Posts: 77090 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/1/2021 8:50 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
Posts: 77090 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/1/2021 8:57 PM
As of this morn but I think they have been tweaked just a bit
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Philc1
Posts: 28512 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
8/1/2021 9:03 PM
smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Elf and Rose will both be back next season. Sorry guys. |
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27649 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
8/1/2021 9:30 PM
Philc1 wrote:smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: We always knew Graham would be an RFA. The question was always how much they are willing to pay LaMelo’s backup. Especially after they drafted Bouknight You know I gonna spin wit it
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
8/1/2021 9:33 PM
Philc1 wrote:smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:
(Even Elfrid's own mom seen the writing on the wall). There is 0% chance Elfrid Payton is a Knicks PG 2021-2022.... |
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martin
Posts: 77090 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/1/2021 9:46 PM
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martin
Posts: 77090 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/1/2021 10:36 PM
FYI
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martin
Posts: 77090 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/1/2021 10:36 PM
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LivingLegend
Posts: 25929 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
8/1/2021 11:00 PM
martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: The Turner for Mitch move is the one I’ve been waiting on but wonder if Indy lost interest once they grabbed I Jackson in draft. One issue I’ve heard is Turner is not good on pick/roll or around basket but obviously can shoot with some range. Would love to swap Mitch for Turner tbh - just don’t trust Mitch in my stomach. |
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
8/1/2021 11:23 PM
LivingLegend wrote:martin wrote:The Turner for Mitch move is the one Ive been waiting on but wonder if Indy lost interest once they grabbed I Jackson in draft.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Heck no. Myles Turner is heading into his 7th NBA season and has literally not improved dating back to his rookie season. Not one bit. And he's actually gotten worse.
2020 (6th season): No thank you.
Mitchell Robinson still has untapped potential but Myles Turner is completely maxed out and has not improved one bit over the years (he's getting worse). Mitchell Robinson after only 3 years has a Player Efficiency Rating of 21.6. Myles Turner after now 6 years has a Player Efficiency Rating of only 16.7. I'd become absolutely DISGUSTED if we threw Mitchell Robinson away for "Myles Turner".
Talk about overrated to the max and with no ability to improve, talk about Myles Turner (himself). |
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27649 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
8/1/2021 11:49 PM
NYKMentality wrote:LivingLegend wrote:martin wrote:The Turner for Mitch move is the one Ive been waiting on but wonder if Indy lost interest once they grabbed I Jackson in draft.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I believe you are looking at the wrong stats. You probably wouldn’t want Rudy Gobert on your team either. Turner leads the league in blocks per game and is pretty well regarded as one of the tougher man defenders in the league at C. Turner is what we want Robinson to be. Robinson’s injury history draws into question whether he will remain healthy long term. Comparing PER isn’t really fair. PER is highly skewed by usage rate and gets hammered by a low eFG. That is, Turner’s willingness to take a 3 or an 18 foot jumper hurts his PER. Barrett has a 13.9 PER after 2 years and most on this board wouldn’t trade him for anything. Robinson booked a 70% FG% season by not taking shots more than 2 feet from the basket. That’s highly efficient and generally I would applaud that kind of efficiency for the Knicks, but this season his PER dropped not because he is a worse player or had a worse season, but because the box outs take a toll on PER because they do t show up in the money stats. So, Robinson drops rebounds to Randle and Barrett with his box out and he doesn’t get PER boost for it. Robinson’s PER goes down. Now he looks more like Turner. But lower money stats. Doesn’t defeat the point. They are similar players at 16mm less for Robinson this year. I don’t see Turner as a trade for Robinson so much as a pairing that gives more similar coverage in the 10 man rotation. You know I gonna spin wit it
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