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2/15/2021  10:16 PM
Knixkik wrote:I loved that Barrett stepped up and hit big threes. We needed him to do that. Quickley stepped up and Randle was just unreal. I love that lineup to close the game. Our best 5 out there.

Same...been wanting to see that line-up (Mitch instead of Noel) the moment we traded for Rose. Hopefully we can see more of it...

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2/15/2021  10:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2021  10:18 PM
Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....
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2/15/2021  10:22 PM
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.
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2/15/2021  10:22 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Randle making it be known...I am an All Star

Did Randle have an ALL-STAR game ??? Yes-Yes he Did ..
44 pts, 9 rbs, 5 ast, and only 3 turnovers for another Knicks WIN !!!

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2/15/2021  10:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2021  10:27 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

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2/15/2021  10:30 PM

Nice win. they really seem to enjoy playing for one another

while it's nice to see Elf drive hard to the basket, the pace and offense is fundamentally different with Rose/IQ. ANd his defense is spotty. He does a lot of things well on D but does not get over screens well

was not surprised to see IQ in the 4th

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2/15/2021  10:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2021  10:45 PM
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

And Mitch is out for us. My point, of course, is WE are the up and coming team. Currently in 6th place in the East! Only a half game from the tie for 4th and 5th. Long long way to go but really who would have thunk it?

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2/15/2021  10:45 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

My point, of course, is WE are the up and coming team. Currently in 6th place in the East! Only a half game from the tie for 4th and 5th. Long long way to go but really who would have thunk it?

I agree with you...On paper and at full strength, the Hawks look better, but the game ain't played on looseleaf. We are a much better defensive team, we are tougher, physically and mentally and the Hawks struggle in close games in the 4th quarter as they do not know how to close. I love the lineup Thibs closed with. Hope we see more of that lineup together....

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2/15/2021  11:16 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

And Mitch is out for us. My point, of course, is WE are the up and coming team. Currently in 6th place in the East! Only a half game from the tie for 4th and 5th. Long long way to go but really who would have thunk it?

Don't short change it man, Mitch AND Frank out for us

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2/16/2021  8:09 AM
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

And we are missing our two best defenders too. Didn't hear too many people reference our injuries earlier in the season when we lost.
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2/16/2021  9:56 AM
Uptown wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

My point, of course, is WE are the up and coming team. Currently in 6th place in the East! Only a half game from the tie for 4th and 5th. Long long way to go but really who would have thunk it?

I agree with you...On paper and at full strength, the Hawks look better, but the game ain't played on looseleaf. We are a much better defensive team, we are tougher, physically and mentally and the Hawks struggle in close games in the 4th quarter as they do not know how to close. I love the lineup Thibs closed with. Hope we see more of that lineup together....

Hawks are only an up and coming team if you believe Trae is a star. I know many do and I understand why but I am not one of them. I am sure some of it is bias... I just dont like how he plays. I just loath the whole "Ive been touched, send me to the FT line" of today's game. The whole running into defender to draw incidental contact sucks. See the Taj play.

Obv Trae can explode and carry an offense for long stretches. He's no Iverson and he's no Steph Curry. Sorry I just dont like him and LOVE beating him and the Hawks.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/16/2021  10:05 AM
Uptown wrote:
Uptown wrote:not a fan of Thibs HS sub patterns....subbing out 5 for 5 especially when a player is 🔥

Thibs to Uptown: I got this...relax!

It looks like the sub patterns are pretty tight early on, and that lets him play who he wants down the stretch. Last night it was mixing and matching but we saw IQ/Rose instead of Elf/Reggie and it was great. Thibs def does NOT have a set closing cast aside from Randle and RJ, and even RJ sat the other day during a really bad game for him.

I have been pretty high in the koolaid zone with Thibs. We beat the stinky Magic we are 15-15, good for 5thish in the conference and doing it behind guys like Randle, RJ, Mitch and most of the guys we had last year plus some really promising fresh legs. This is a good start to the Leon/Thibs era

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/16/2021  10:08 AM
God damnit, Thibs! The plan was supposed to be trade for Rose and move Quickley into the starting lineup. And now I love the two of them playing together so much I don't know if I even want that anymore...stop playing these mind games with me!
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2/16/2021  11:00 AM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Prior to the season the Hawks were being singled out by the pundits as the up and coming team. Well....

They let the league's worse offense drop a 120 on the with ease. That tells you all you need to know about Atlanta.

True...to be fair, they are missing their best defender/ 2-way player in DeAndre Hunter. He's out 8-12 weeks. Bogdonovic is out too..

My point, of course, is WE are the up and coming team. Currently in 6th place in the East! Only a half game from the tie for 4th and 5th. Long long way to go but really who would have thunk it?

I agree with you...On paper and at full strength, the Hawks look better, but the game ain't played on looseleaf. We are a much better defensive team, we are tougher, physically and mentally and the Hawks struggle in close games in the 4th quarter as they do not know how to close. I love the lineup Thibs closed with. Hope we see more of that lineup together....

Hawks are only an up and coming team if you believe Trae is a star. I know many do and I understand why but I am not one of them. I am sure some of it is bias... I just dont like how he plays. I just loath the whole "Ive been touched, send me to the FT line" of today's game. The whole running into defender to draw incidental contact sucks. See the Taj play.

Obv Trae can explode and carry an offense for long stretches. He's no Iverson and he's no Steph Curry. Sorry I just dont like him and LOVE beating him and the Hawks.


they've got a lot of problems right now including too much money for injury prone guys who have been on the bench a lot

also sounds like Collins is tiring of the Trae show

NBA has to clean up that crap or people will get sick of the product

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2/16/2021  11:07 AM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Uptown wrote:not a fan of Thibs HS sub patterns....subbing out 5 for 5 especially when a player is 🔥

Thibs to Uptown: I got this...relax!

It looks like the sub patterns are pretty tight early on, and that lets him play who he wants down the stretch. Last night it was mixing and matching but we saw IQ/Rose instead of Elf/Reggie and it was great. Thibs def does NOT have a set closing cast aside from Randle and RJ, and even RJ sat the other day during a really bad game for him.

I have been pretty high in the koolaid zone with Thibs. We beat the stinky Magic we are 15-15, good for 5thish in the conference and doing it behind guys like Randle, RJ, Mitch and most of the guys we had last year plus some really promising fresh legs. This is a good start to the Leon/Thibs era

The first 3 quarters are definitely scripted. Burks is usually the first one in @ around the 5 or 4 minute mark. Rose, Quick and Gibson will enter at the 3 minute mark or so. Rose and Quick will play about 9 minutes in the first half. Obi will get a quick hook if the score is close. The same sub patterns hold true in the 3rd quarter. Did like that he rolled with Quick and Rose to close out as we needed the offense and floor space late in the 4th.

I would like to see Quick, Rose, RJ and Randle (and Mitch when healthy) get extended minutes together and develop chemistry as I think that's our best, most balanced line up. I'm old school and from the Chuck Daly school of coaching philosophy. Daly would go off script, and ride the hot hand regardless of what quarter it was. But maybe that's coming down the road...

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2/16/2021  11:59 AM
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Uptown wrote:not a fan of Thibs HS sub patterns....subbing out 5 for 5 especially when a player is 🔥

Thibs to Uptown: I got this...relax!

It looks like the sub patterns are pretty tight early on, and that lets him play who he wants down the stretch. Last night it was mixing and matching but we saw IQ/Rose instead of Elf/Reggie and it was great. Thibs def does NOT have a set closing cast aside from Randle and RJ, and even RJ sat the other day during a really bad game for him.

I have been pretty high in the koolaid zone with Thibs. We beat the stinky Magic we are 15-15, good for 5thish in the conference and doing it behind guys like Randle, RJ, Mitch and most of the guys we had last year plus some really promising fresh legs. This is a good start to the Leon/Thibs era

The first 3 quarters are definitely scripted. Burks is usually the first one in @ around the 5 or 4 minute mark. Rose, Quick and Gibson will enter at the 3 minute mark or so. Rose and Quick will play about 9 minutes in the first half. Obi will get a quick hook if the score is close. The same sub patterns hold true in the 3rd quarter. Did like that he rolled with Quick and Rose to close out as we needed the offense and floor space late in the 4th.

I would like to see Quick, Rose, RJ and Randle (and Mitch when healthy) get extended minutes together and develop chemistry as I think that's our best, most balanced line up. I'm old school and from the Chuck Daly school of coaching philosophy. Daly would go off script, and ride the hot hand regardless of what quarter it was. But maybe that's coming down the road...

agree but honestly I like it. Takes some of the emotion out of it and adds structure. So far the end of games are def up for mixing and matching and Thibs has shown he will make a lot of subs late in games vs. just riding with his closers.

Cant argue too much with Thib's results so far. He' really pushing the right buttons and has this team coached up. Looking at the east I am starting to think we are ending up 4th or 5th seed which is utterly insane. Our whole offseason was "how the phuck can we trade Julius Randle"

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/16/2021  12:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2021  12:49 PM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Uptown wrote:not a fan of Thibs HS sub patterns....subbing out 5 for 5 especially when a player is 🔥

Thibs to Uptown: I got this...relax!

It looks like the sub patterns are pretty tight early on, and that lets him play who he wants down the stretch. Last night it was mixing and matching but we saw IQ/Rose instead of Elf/Reggie and it was great. Thibs def does NOT have a set closing cast aside from Randle and RJ, and even RJ sat the other day during a really bad game for him.

I have been pretty high in the koolaid zone with Thibs. We beat the stinky Magic we are 15-15, good for 5thish in the conference and doing it behind guys like Randle, RJ, Mitch and most of the guys we had last year plus some really promising fresh legs. This is a good start to the Leon/Thibs era

The first 3 quarters are definitely scripted. Burks is usually the first one in @ around the 5 or 4 minute mark. Rose, Quick and Gibson will enter at the 3 minute mark or so. Rose and Quick will play about 9 minutes in the first half. Obi will get a quick hook if the score is close. The same sub patterns hold true in the 3rd quarter. Did like that he rolled with Quick and Rose to close out as we needed the offense and floor space late in the 4th.

I would like to see Quick, Rose, RJ and Randle (and Mitch when healthy) get extended minutes together and develop chemistry as I think that's our best, most balanced line up. I'm old school and from the Chuck Daly school of coaching philosophy. Daly would go off script, and ride the hot hand regardless of what quarter it was. But maybe that's coming down the road...

agree but honestly I like it. Takes some of the emotion out of it and adds structure. So far the end of games are def up for mixing and matching and Thibs has shown he will make a lot of subs late in games vs. just riding with his closers.

Cant argue too much with Thib's results so far. He' really pushing the right buttons and has this team coached up. Looking at the east I am starting to think we are ending up 4th or 5th seed which is utterly insane. Our whole offseason was "how the phuck can we trade Julius Randle"

We've won 3 straight and have been playing better over the last 5 games...My complaints are minor at this point, but the line ups I suggested may be necessary down the road when we are playing the top tier teams in the east like the Sixers, Nets, and especially when and if we get to the playoffs.

I think we can definitely lock-up the 5th seed at the very least. The Pacers are struggling right now. They traded Oladipo and never replaced his production with Lavert out.

Remember how most fans felt about Julius the night we drafted Obi? Most wanted to trade him ASAP!! Today, Julius is probably the most untouchable Knick and most beloved amongst Knick fans, after Quickley

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2/16/2021  1:23 PM
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