Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

Nalod wrote:Briggs, someone hack your account? You sound like a child.

That’s it.....That explains everything. Somebody did hack his account. OK......I feel better now. For a second, it sounds like Briggs agrees with his racism and division. Voting for Trump is like driving in reverse. Back to the White only water fountains. And sitting in the back of buses. Trump camouflages his racism against African Americans by targeting Muslims and Mexicans. It's the same old rhetoric. This is what happens when you build something on slavery soil. Until the soil is changed, people like Trump will continue to rise like weeds, and continue to spread fear, racism, hate and negativity. How can someone say he wants to unite, but in the same sentence he wants to build a wall.....Like that’s going to solve anything.

What about the local terrorist who look and talk just like Trump? What about the terrorist that were born and raised in America? I guess we just ignore them, and chase after the immigrants, who are hired by Trump? This guy is a clown! I feel sorry for those who can't see past this con artist. And I'm even more surprised at NY Knick fans. Out of everybody, we are trained to see through the BS, growing up in NYC.....How can you not like Clinton, but like Trump, when Trump was not only a democrat, but he has a financial record buried in his taxes (that he will never show) supporting the Clintons. Now he's trashing them? Don't have to look real hard to see BS....It's right in front of you!

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

African Americans had the ability to thrive even when everything was stacked against us. However, the never ending assault has had detrimental impacts that are hard to overcome. Hundreds of years of oppression tends to do that. From 1619 till this very day this system has been set against us. There is no quick fix either.

Just remember that they had to break the spirit of Slaves in order to control them. There were often more slaves than Non slaves but they maintained control thru extreme violence and fear. When my ancestors were freed after the Civil War the entire family was illiterate. Yet they were made to sign labor contracts with the former slave masters that they couldn't even read!!! They promised them land of their own but after initially giving it President Andrew Johnson rescinded the promise of land and took it back!!!

Edisto Island S.C. Oct 28th 1865.

We the freedmen Of Edisto Island South Carolina have learned From you through Major General O O Howard commissioner of the Freedmans Bureau. with deep sorrow and Painful hearts of the possibility of goverment restoring These lands to the former owners. We are well aware Of the many perplexing and trying questions that burden Your mind. and do therefore pray to god (the preserver Of all. and who has through our Late and beloved President (Lincoln) proclamation and the war made Us A free people) that he may guide you in making Your decisions and give you that wisdom that Cometh from above to settle these great and Important Questions for the best interests of the country and the Colored race:

Here is where secession was born and Nurtured Here is were we have toiled nearly all Our lives as slaves and were treated like dumb Driven cattle, This is our home, we have made These lands what they are. we were the only true and Loyal people that were found in posession of these Lands. we have been always ready to strike for Liberty and humanity yea to fight if needs be To preserve this glorious union.

Shall not we who Are freedman and have been always true to this Union have the same rights as are enjoyed by Others? Have we broken any Law of these United States? Have we forfieted our rights of property In Land?– If not then! are not our rights as A free people and good citizens of these United States To be considered before the rights of those who were Found in rebellion against this good and just Goverment (and now being conquered) come (as they Seem) with penitent hearts and beg forgiveness For past offences and also ask if thier lands Cannot be restored to them are these rebellious Spirits to be reinstated in thier possessions And we who have been abused and oppressed For many long years not to be allowed the Privilige of purchasing land But be subject To the will of these large Land owners? God fobid, Land monopoly is injurious to the advancement of the course of freedom, and if government Does not make some provision by which we as Freedmen can obtain A Homestead, we have Not bettered our condition.

We have been encouraged by government to take up these lands in small tracts, receiving Certificates of the same– we have thus far Taken Sixteen thousand (16000) acres of Land here on This Island. We are ready to pay for this land When Government calls for it. and now after What has been done will the good and just government take from us all this right and make us Subject to the will of those who have cheated and Oppressed us for many years God Forbid!

We the freedmen of this Island and of the State of South Carolina–Do therefore petition to you as the President of these United States, that some provisions be made by which Every colored man can purchase land. and Hold it as his own. We wish to have A home if It be but A few acres. without some provision is Made our future is sad to look upon. yes our Situation is dangerous. we therefore look to you In this trying hour as A true friend of the poor and Neglected race. for protection and Equal Rights. with the privilege of purchasing A Homestead–A Homestead right here in the Heart of South Carolina.

We pray that god will direct your heart in Making such provision for us as freedmen which Will tend to unite these states together stronger Than ever before– May God bless you in the Administration of your duties as the President Of these United States is the humble prayer Of us all.–

In behalf of the Freedmen

Henry Bram.
Committee Ishmael. Moultrie.
yates. Sampson.

http://www.freedmen.umd.edu/Edisto%20petitions.htm

Can deferentially relate to you.
My people were oppressed for 2 thousand years by almost all nations, governments, kings, and dictators which existed all this time.
Enslaved, segregated, killed, burned, gassed, raped, deprived, and displaced.
All this powers and nations are all gone, perished, and damned, but we survived, persist, and thrive, and will be there to witness the end of time.
Don't be discouraged by the hardship and suffering. They make strong stronger and week disappear.
Every nation get the fate it deserved, its just a matter of time.

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

arkrud wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

Do you not realize that this country would not exist as it does without Slaves and the wealth their toil created??? The founding fathers knew this and even tho they also knew it was wrong they allowed Slavery to continue because it was profitable. This country owes its success to those Slaves and they never did the right thing by African Americans to this very day. Those were my ancestors being oppressed for hundreds of years!!!

This isn't exactly the same thing as Jewish oppression or holocaust. Jews were able to maintain their culture, language, religion and history despite all the abuse. Jews in this country were able to attain wealth and education for their children. With the Slaves all of that was stripped and the efforts to keep Blacks in a lower state continue to this day. My Grandfather fought in WWII and was awarded a Bronze Star and Purple Heart but was discriminated against in the Army and back at home in the U.S. We can't just blend in like some races. Blacks are literally targeted in this system at every stage. That is the kind of thing that has never properly been accounted for.

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

Can you elaborate on your first sentence?

That is what has been happening under the social media era. Which people are taking sides based on race rather then justice. And without social media African American would still be told racism doesn't exist anymore.

We are awarded the benefits from the America we helped create & make prosper, and helped fight in wars for to preserve, while being put at a disadvantage for over 400 yrs and counting. We wouldn't need these benefits today if we were treated as equals from 400 yrs ago.

I have no problem dealing with issues case by case. Just remember that when black on black homicide is used to justify police brutality etc.

Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

nixluva wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

Can you elaborate on your first sentence?

That is what has been happening under the social media era. Which people are taking sides based on race rather then justice. And without social media African American would still be told racism doesn't exist anymore.

We are awarded the benefits from the America we helped create & make prosper, and helped fight in wars for to preserve, while being put at a disadvantage for over 400 yrs and counting. We wouldn't need these benefits today if we were treated as equals from 400 yrs ago.

I have no problem dealing with issues case by case. Just remember that when black on black homicide is used to justify police brutality etc.

Not to mention that it is a MYTH that Blacks are the biggest group to receive benefits!!!

Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6771938

Exactly what I meant - 11% of black population receives 25% of entitlements...
Because entitlements should and are warded based on need not race
And about public opinion... If African Americans unable to raze the issues in any public forums they need to get help.
There are a zilion of black celebs, actors, entertainers, reporters, professors, etc.
And notion that they cannot raze the issues of black communities in traditional and non-traditional media is laughable.
Stop crying and filling victimized people - start working and fighting.
I know it is hard but there is no other way. No one will going to help you if you will not start helping yourself. No one.

GustavBahler wrote:

holfresh wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:"no thank you" is a cop out!!!!

Supreme court justices, likely two hangs in the balance. That does filter down to our every day lives.
The court on Wednesday split on N.C. discriminatory actions to limit minority voting. If Scalia was alive, it would likey have stood.
Few things scare me more than the far swing to the right.

Yes, Hilary has made a money grab. Get in line.
Where was all this outrage when the Bush Family was raking in the cash?
This all about a women doing things men have been doing for decades and we want some sweet grandma "Barbara Bush" type women?
Think Bengazi is the first embassy we ever lost? Far from it. Its the first that we went on a bipartisan witch hunt on.
Im not a raving Hilary lover but if she is "crooked" then Trump is 10x worse!

BTW, he lost me when he slammed John McCain and called him a "Loser" for getting captured in war. Most disgusting think I ever heard a candidate every say!
When some disillusioned Purple heart recipient gave his metal to Trump he said "Cool, I always wanted one of these"!!! That is wrong as so many levels.
Trump is the guy that got out of Vietnam by a sham docter letter. That's ok, but don't take another mans metal!!!
This guy is rotten to the core.
Made fun of a disfigured reporter? He looked like a dumb teenager in need of maturity! Not a 70 year old man of "substance".
Bans reporters from papers with a history of fact checking?

Obama was gonna take your guns. Didn't happen. Obama was gonna take the Ammo. Prices went up. Gun dudes fall for this crap all the time. president can't take away a constitutional amendment.
ChickenSHyt NRA pansies now blasting that rhetoric? How many times we going to get taken by that lobby?

Nothing Hilary has done even comes close to what this guy is about!
No doubt its a Shyt Show but a 25billion dollar wall cheered by ignorant white uneducated gun lovers who fall for fear mongering crap over and over is validation enough for me that I can't vote for trump and if you don't vote for Hilary you might end up with him!

Stand up and vote for the democracy. This country has never been perfect but we cannot succumb to fearful ignorance and a right wing agenda that moves us away from the beacon of light that is our constitution!!!!!
We are a country of compassion and justice, not "America First".

I disagree that Trump is more dangerous than Hillary. Most of the problems this country faces began or were accelerated during the Clinton presidency. Policies which Secretary Clinton fully supported at the time. Someone who took a very visible role in her husband's administration. No traditional first lady was she (yoda)

Even though she has reversed herself on the TPP, the head of her campaign and her pick for VP are ardent supporters for this trade pack. If it passes the Supreme Court will take a back seat to 3 corporate lawyers who will decide any lawsuit brought by a corporation against the US, and the US govt will not have any recourse. Its effectively ceding control of our govt to multi-national corporations. Trump is against the trade pack, Clinton I guarantee will support it again when elected. They both present horrific problems for this country if elected.

The crime bill was horrible I agree..But you can't hide from globalization. You either write the rules of the road or have it written for you. In a decade, 4 of the 5 largest economies on the planet will be in Asia. It's time to pivot away from the Middle East towards Asia if we are going to remain a global power. I worry that people like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are short sighted in this manner. They play on people's fears. None of Bernie's proposals were possible. One estimate that all of Bernie's programs proposals would cost over 30 trillion dollars. Please reread the merits of NAFTA and you will see we are well ahead of the game in that trade deal. Listen, I get that some people will lose their jobs, that's a given. Estimates are that 45% of the jobs will be gone in a decade due to automation and robots. Taxi drivers and truck drivers won't be around in a decade...We can stand around and play the protectionist game and let it happen or write the rules of the road to unsure we have a seat at the table and tilt the balance in our direction...

Nope! Not until you admit Lopez was better than you thought.

Haha..Funny stuff.. Lopez took his game to a next level after he was embarrassed by his brother in Brooklyn. But that was with about a fifth of the season left. I think there was a road trip after that he began to play harder. But the problem with Lopez is that he didn't fit with what the Knicks wanted to do. He was a terrible passer in the pivot. He probably shot the ball 95% of the times he got it. The triangle needs good pivot passers to encourage movement off the ball and shifting triangle rotations which are key element of the triangle. I suspect this is why Rambis said he wanted KP to play the pivot more and to "beat Lopez down the court." Folks here saw this comment as Rambis trying to restict KP which was wrong..KP is a really good passer in the pivot the very few times he posted. So Lopez showing up late in the season has now become mythical.. 10 pts 7 boards over a season for a 7 footer is hardly anything to write home about...

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

Can you elaborate on your first sentence?

That is what has been happening under the social media era. Which people are taking sides based on race rather then justice. And without social media African American would still be told racism doesn't exist anymore.

We are awarded the benefits from the America we helped create & make prosper, and helped fight in wars for to preserve, while being put at a disadvantage for over 400 yrs and counting. We wouldn't need these benefits today if we were treated as equals from 400 yrs ago.

I have no problem dealing with issues case by case. Just remember that when black on black homicide is used to justify police brutality etc.

Not to mention that it is a MYTH that Blacks are the biggest group to receive benefits!!!

Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6771938

Exactly what I meant - 11% of black population receives 25% of entitlements...
Because entitlements should and are warded based on need not race
And about public opinion... If African Americans unable to raze the issues in any public forums they need to get help.
There are a zilion of black celebs, actors, entertainers, reporters, professors, etc.
And notion that they cannot raze the issues of black communities in traditional and non-traditional media is laughable.
Stop crying and filling victimized people - start working and fighting.
I know it is hard but there is no other way. No one will going to help you if you will not start helping yourself. No one.

This isn't 1940--this is 2016 and the President of the U S the last 8 years is AA. I guarantee GUARANTEE people who feel racism is holding them back oppressing them or hindering their lives-- this rhetoric is falling on deaf ears. We are all the same and believe me no one cares about whining. The one thing that can be changed is to find people who help minorities rebuild infrastructure and triple down on thwarting drugs and crime. I think Trump is the guy who can help. Obama should've been the guy to do this he had two terms and if anything he went backwards

BRIGGS wrote:

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

Can you elaborate on your first sentence?

That is what has been happening under the social media era. Which people are taking sides based on race rather then justice. And without social media African American would still be told racism doesn't exist anymore.

We are awarded the benefits from the America we helped create & make prosper, and helped fight in wars for to preserve, while being put at a disadvantage for over 400 yrs and counting. We wouldn't need these benefits today if we were treated as equals from 400 yrs ago.

I have no problem dealing with issues case by case. Just remember that when black on black homicide is used to justify police brutality etc.

Not to mention that it is a MYTH that Blacks are the biggest group to receive benefits!!!

Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6771938

Exactly what I meant - 11% of black population receives 25% of entitlements...
Because entitlements should and are warded based on need not race
And about public opinion... If African Americans unable to raze the issues in any public forums they need to get help.
There are a zilion of black celebs, actors, entertainers, reporters, professors, etc.
And notion that they cannot raze the issues of black communities in traditional and non-traditional media is laughable.
Stop crying and filling victimized people - start working and fighting.
I know it is hard but there is no other way. No one will going to help you if you will not start helping yourself. No one.

This isn't 1940--this is 2016 and the President of the U S the last 8 years is AA. I guarantee GUARANTEE people who feel racism is holding them back oppressing them or hindering their lives-- this rhetoric is falling on deaf ears. We are all the same and believe me no one cares about whining. The one thing that can be changed is to find people who help minorities rebuild infrastructure and triple down on thwarting drugs and crime. I think Trump is the guy who can help. Obama should've been the guy to do this he had two terms and if anything he went backwards

Then why would minorities vote for a guy who courts racists, why would they vote for a guy who supports the NRA who does nothing but help flood the inner cities with guns...Why would you vote for a guy who doesn't know what the nuclear triad is?? Why would you vote for a guy who thought Democratic VP candidate Tim Kaine, was the former Governor of New Jersey, a neighboring state of his, where he does business, no less...Why would you vote for a guy who admits he doesn't like to read...There are lots of reading that goes with running the free world..Why would you vote or trust a guy who has flipped on every issue multiple times, sometimes in the same day...He has a guy who was pressuring women to sleep with him because he was their boss, advising his campaign..You have daughters who will work one day?? He has another guy who peddle racist propaganda on the internet helping his campaign..He wife plagiarize during a speech for the highest, most honored, office in the land...This is befuddling...

BRIGGS wrote:

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:It's mind bugging that so many people honestly think that president of United States and even more Congress have any control of our society.
They cannot change sht and this is the best thing which happening to this country.
We have a society which regulates itself by natural lows on nature and human psychology.
This is why we and countries selected the same way of Republican governance in the framework of market economy are progressing so quickly.
And the rest of the world who decided to go with various communist/religions/nationalistic dictatorship with government planned economy are descending into Mad Max style wastelands.
So we can have big a..ss Khardasian lady as president and bunch of average crackheads in Congress but everything will still go exactly the way it goes.

I don't think you realize that this country fought a bloody Civil War to begin to bring about a just society and it still took another 100 years of violence and oppression and the use of National Guard Troops to force integration. Still yet in the South things have not fully integrated so much so that School Proms in many areas were still segregated as recently as last year. There was no NATURAL REGULATION. People DIED in order to bring about a better society in this country.

Papabear Says

I had a cousin in the early 1980's was married to a white girl in the south. I went down to visit him and my family and one day we went to a supermarket and my cousin was a very open guy. In the store he kept on saying come on baby what do you want. The store was 99% white and they kept stiring at him and his wife. One night some one came and knocked on his door and asked him to step outside and when he did they blew him away. Shot him dead just because he was married to a white woman. (so sad) He had a nice car, good job and he saw no color.

Sad story it is...
Not sure how all Presidents and Congressmen of US can help this stuff not to happen.
They cannot do anything about it as they cannot change the human nature.
No one but African Americans themselves can solve the problems they have and no one else will.
If you still believe that government of any kind will come and help you, you are very delusional.
Even God will not help you if you will not help yourself.

There are certain things African Americans should do for themselves. And there are certain things that all races should be standing for as human beings in support of the human race.

What African Americans would like is for Governors & Congress to hold people accountable for that very nature (with punishments that fit the crimes). Just like the enforcing of video cameras on police and evolving with that type of accountability. Holding Chief Of Police all the way down accountable given the power police have. All Americans should demand it because its logical and just.

In North Carolina research and analysis were done on how, when, where African Americans voted. Then Laws were put in place to limit the African American vote. First, the fact that this was even attempted should be eye opening an goes against everything that a certain demographic of people have been claiming doesn't happen anymore in this age. Second, all Americans should be appalled and if all Americans were to be equally outraged and demand accountability for it there would be a higher probability of preventing theses type of issues. But let me guess, African Americans brought this on themselves. African Americans should have just adapted to the new laws made. Doesn't effect whites or any other race so not an issue.

If you want inclusion then all Americans need to band together and fight for what is just. If not then might as well bring back segregation.

This yr Levar Allen a 17 yr old three sport student-athlete for Louisiana. Who made local news headlines for his athletic achievements, and never before hand in trouble with the law. He was charged with child pornography after exchanging sexting messages with his 16 yr old white girl friend. She started the act by sending him the first message. He acting as her boyfriend replied with his own. Her parents caught wind of his video and called the police. Is this an issue that African Americans and only African Americans should be looking to solve? In your eyes does the punishment fit the crime if you even want to call it a crime?

Levar Allen with this felony of child pornography attached to his name will lose his rights to

Vote
Traveling abroad
The right to bear arms or own guns
Jury service
Employment in certain fields
Public social benefits and housing
Parental benefits

You listed things which are available and provided to all Americans including African Americans.
If some violations of this lows and rights are commuted by officials or people this cases should be brought to court of low and public attention.
I think African Americans are biggest group to receive benefits you listed and they are awarded based on economic need not race or other stuff.
In fact all of this is not available in most of the countries of the world.
Nobody claimed that there are no issues and violations but the only way to deal with this is on case-by-case basis.

Can you elaborate on your first sentence?

That is what has been happening under the social media era. Which people are taking sides based on race rather then justice. And without social media African American would still be told racism doesn't exist anymore.

We are awarded the benefits from the America we helped create & make prosper, and helped fight in wars for to preserve, while being put at a disadvantage for over 400 yrs and counting. We wouldn't need these benefits today if we were treated as equals from 400 yrs ago.

I have no problem dealing with issues case by case. Just remember that when black on black homicide is used to justify police brutality etc.

Not to mention that it is a MYTH that Blacks are the biggest group to receive benefits!!!

Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6771938

Exactly what I meant - 11% of black population receives 25% of entitlements...
Because entitlements should and are warded based on need not race
And about public opinion... If African Americans unable to raze the issues in any public forums they need to get help.
There are a zilion of black celebs, actors, entertainers, reporters, professors, etc.
And notion that they cannot raze the issues of black communities in traditional and non-traditional media is laughable.
Stop crying and filling victimized people - start working and fighting.
I know it is hard but there is no other way. No one will going to help you if you will not start helping yourself. No one.

This isn't 1940--this is 2016 and the President of the U S the last 8 years is AA. I guarantee GUARANTEE people who feel racism is holding them back oppressing them or hindering their lives-- this rhetoric is falling on deaf ears. We are all the same and believe me no one cares about whining. The one thing that can be changed is to find people who help minorities rebuild infrastructure and triple down on thwarting drugs and crime. I think Trump is the guy who can help. Obama should've been the guy to do this he had two terms and if anything he went backwards

Like Trump both BRIGGS and arkrud have no idea what you're talking about!!! You both need to first go learn about how hundreds of years of institutional racism impacts African Americans in an adverse and insidious way that is so deeply imbedded in every crevice of this country's being that no President could by himself solve the problem.

Institutional Racism is like weeds in a garden that have deep roots. It's very difficult to completely get rid of them. If you just ignore it as if it's not there the weeds only get worse. It's gonna take a very comprehensive approach to fixing the problem. Blacks didn't create the problems they have! They had horrible things done TOO THEM which caused these problems. Hundreds of years of iintentionally depriving a people of education, terrorist violence, killing black leaders, destroying entire successful Black Communities out of hatred, spite and envy, removing financial resources, predatory lending, over policing and encarceration... The list goes on and on. Most of this is intentional but some is just baked into the cake.

Trump as president won't make things better! He doesn't even know the real reasons behind the problems to begin with so how can he fix anything??? You can't just drop in on a Black church and fully understand the issues impacting Black communities. BRIGGS, arkrud, neither of you know enough about this to understand why Trump and the Republican Party are not capable of helping to solve the problems in the African American community. I can tell by your statements that you guys don't fully appreciate the depth of the problem. I can help you to come to understand if you're really interested in learning.