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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
7/11/2016 10:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:NardDogNation wrote:dk7th wrote:1) the nra needs to be demolished and gun shows heavily proctored where all invitees are thoroughly checked. Absolutely! More America jobs will do a lot to help but it won't solve all our problems. It won't make us better people. First we need to fix some fundamental societal human issues and we need strong unifying leadership. I had to give up being democrat because something went array along the way. I can never stand for the dishonesty and intolerance of the left and I will be voting for Trump primarily because of his common sense over pandering to the politically correct and lies. |
gunsnewing
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7/11/2016 11:02 PM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2016 11:28 PM
arkrud wrote:NardDogNation wrote:fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:those are pie in the sky proposals that indicate little understanding of how the gov work.dk7th wrote:1) the nra needs to be demolished and gun shows heavily proctored where all invitees are thoroughly checked. and Brazil. I always get a kick out of Americans wanting socialism. What ends up happening is you relinquish your freedom and give the complete control to blatantly you as citizens. I know because my cousin is one of the ones impeached and indited on charges from Brazil's latest corruption scandals. I've seen how radical far left politicians are capable of ripping off a entire country and reap the benefits first hand |
gunsnewing
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7/11/2016 11:08 PM
fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:it may see that way, but is it reality? I don't want to emulate France in any way aside from their work culture. That country has huge problems. You cant really cherry pick the good from each country and ask why we cant do that.fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:those are pie in the sky proposals that indicate little understanding of how the gov work.dk7th wrote:1) the nra needs to be demolished and gun shows heavily proctored where all invitees are thoroughly checked. yup and these politicians will for vote the candidate who countinue to line their pockets and not rock their boat. Everything remains copacetic with the status quo under the false assumption of helping the poor which gets them elected every time. |
mreinman
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7/11/2016 11:12 PM
I hope that melo steps up at forward and passes and leads like he did the first half of last season.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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NardDogNation
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7/11/2016 11:15 PM
fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:it may see that way, but is it reality? I don't want to emulate France in any way aside from their work culture. That country has huge problems. You cant really cherry pick the good from each country and ask why we cant do that.fishmike wrote:NardDogNation wrote:those are pie in the sky proposals that indicate little understanding of how the gov work.dk7th wrote:1) the nra needs to be demolished and gun shows heavily proctored where all invitees are thoroughly checked. I admire elements of each of the aforementioned countries. But just because I like certain things about them, it doesn't mean that I'd want to adopt their culture and policies wholesale. And what do taxes have to do with "due process" aka habeus corpus? We've had higher tax rates on wealthy folk throughout history and "due process" was never a factor in the matter. If it is, we've got the 9th amendment to expand the rights of government and people to codify new measures and I'd recommend we utilize it in this capacity. As for politicians, most may be bought but not all. A guy like a Bernie Sanders was just short of being a nominee for POTUS without pandering to the wealthy. People like that can have the ability to change the laws, if necessary. |
GustavBahler
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7/11/2016 11:32 PM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2016 11:34 PM
NardDogNation wrote:GustavBahler wrote:NardDogNation wrote:dk7th wrote:1) the nra needs to be demolished and gun shows heavily proctored where all invitees are thoroughly checked. Communities still need doctors nurses, electricians, carpenters, cooks/chefs among other trades, and service industry jobs with a living wage. There was a program to encourage black owned construction companies to have a seat at the table, but some white business men set up shell companies that were meant to fool the govt into thinking they were black owned. Has to be serious oversight. I remember when I was in high school (I believe) and 60 minutes had done a profile of the A-10 which I still cant find. In one part of the segment, the reporter (maybe Harry Reasoner) was asked to try to keep his eyes on the A-10 in a hilly terrain. He couldn't do it. It kept appearing from all directions. I believe the next serious replacement for the A-10 will be a drone. |
NardDogNation
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7/11/2016 11:38 PM
meloanyk wrote:NardDogNation wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Great job by Melo. America has seldom accepted the world's "...tired....poor...huddled masses, yearning to be free" when it comes to Black and Brown peoples. If your lineage comes from Asia or any other non-European corner of the world, best believe that those people already had some set of skills/pedigree that the economy needed. They may never have had the opportunity to work in their chosen profession (like a former co-worker of mine that was a lawyer in India before coming here to work for the post office) but that culture and know-how of being upper class is passed onto their kids (like my co-worker whose 3 kids became doctors). That holds true for families admitted from Nigeria (Africa), 23% of whose kids attain some sort of graduate degree (according to the "Tiger Mom"). However, most Black Americans have never had the opportunity to acquire the same types of skill/pedigree like Black and Brown immigrants because they have been systemically denied the opportunity to do so since the inception of the country. And the road to acquiring said skill/pedigree (e.g. jacking up higher education costs, making it impossible to get social services with a record, etc.) has been purposely made elusive to help maintain that status quo. So the disparity in "success stories" is not simply a matter of "working hard" and pretending like these issues don't exist. And just for emphasis, had it not been for the blood, sweat and tears of those very same Black Americans, the explosion of Brown and Black immigrants post-1950s would have lead to them occupying the very same socioeconomic conditions endured by Black Americans. Signed, |
gunsnewing
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7/11/2016 11:45 PM
fishmike wrote:meloanyk wrote:yea.. pumping money isn't the answer. http://www.newsweek.com/did-zuckerberg-waste-100-million-newarks-schools-390855NardDogNation wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Great job by Melo. Yea I live in ultra democratic Newark, New Jersey and I can assure you it was wasted money. These are the kind of promises that put these politicians in office to make vanish $100,000,000 million dollar. And it has nothing to do with cops and Donald Trump. Hillary stages her rally in front of Trump's Atlantic City casino and her supporters eat it up when in reality it was the same people who run Newark and have run Atlantic City long before Trump bailed 7yrs ago. Trump did the prudent thing getting out when he did as a businessman but leave it to a dishonest politician like Hillary to blame him all these years later. |
NardDogNation
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7/11/2016 11:48 PM LAST EDITED: 7/12/2016 12:00 AM
fishmike wrote:meloanyk wrote:yea.. pumping money isn't the answer. http://www.newsweek.com/did-zuckerberg-waste-100-million-newarks-schools-390855NardDogNation wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Great job by Melo. I don't think anyone is saying that money is a cure-all. But when schools look like the ones in Detriot, money certainly is a start. Detroit’s students are trying to learn while breathing in black mold and sitting in classrooms filled with buckets catching toilet water leaking through the ceiling. http://usuncut.com/class-war/detroit-teachers-want-you-to-see-these-disturbing-photos/ |
NardDogNation
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7/11/2016 11:51 PM
CashMoney wrote:dk7th wrote:arkrud wrote:dk7th wrote:1) the nra needs to be demolished and gun shows heavily proctored where all invitees are thoroughly checked. So the only demonstration of love for your country is by picking up a gun? And let's be real, most soldiers are soldiers because they don't have many other options for employment or skill acquistion. |
gunsnewing
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7/11/2016 11:52 PM
arkrud wrote:A gunman has killed two police officers and wounded another outside a courthouse in the US state of Michigan. This is what happens when your leaders don't support the police nor acknowledge the fact that they put their lives on the line every single day to protect us. Instead you make general statements based on the actions of some bad cops. The deranged psychopaths out there misinterpret your vague messages and terrorize communities killing more innocent Americans |
GustavBahler
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7/11/2016 11:58 PM
gunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:meloanyk wrote:yea.. pumping money isn't the answer. http://www.newsweek.com/did-zuckerberg-waste-100-million-newarks-schools-390855NardDogNation wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Great job by Melo. http://www.democracynow.org/2015/10/21/how_a_100m_facebook_donation_for Im sure you've seen it firsthand, but this transcript of an interview with someone who covered the story is worth checking out. |
holfresh
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7/12/2016 12:03 AM LAST EDITED: 7/12/2016 1:33 AM
CashMoney wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:misterearl wrote:FACTORIAL It's interesting that the stats I presented is completely opposite to the stats you initially recorded, and now, after posting the same stats I have posted, you some how you draw the same conclusion as before... Acknowledging black on black crime is nothing new... |
gunsnewing
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7/12/2016 12:14 AM LAST EDITED: 7/12/2016 12:23 AM
arkrud wrote:meloanyk wrote:NardDogNation wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Great job by Melo. yea very good post and great discussion in this thread in general. I've come across people from every walks of life who've achieved success the same principles and fundamentals. Unfortunately people are no longer held accountable for their actions and how they are perceived. It's always someone else's fault. There are plenty of examples of being growing up under unfathomable conditions and making the most out of it. Our leaders need to do a better job of acknowledging and promoting the positive contributors to society and their solid principles. |
martin
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7/12/2016 12:19 AM
mreinman wrote:I hope that melo steps up at forward and passes and leads like he did the first half of last season. I haven't closely followed this thread but I am sure it's of a serious tone, tenor, opinion'ed thread; your post is out of place, please refrain. Thanks. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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gunsnewing
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7/12/2016 12:37 AM
GustavBahler wrote:gunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:meloanyk wrote:yea.. pumping money isn't the answer. http://www.newsweek.com/did-zuckerberg-waste-100-million-newarks-schools-390855NardDogNation wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Great job by Melo. It's absurd! This is a prime example why Americans are fed up with traditional politicians |
arkrud
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7/12/2016 12:47 AM
Uptown wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Some interesting points raised. I am from Soviet Union but Jewish descent. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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gunsnewing
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7/12/2016 1:00 AM LAST EDITED: 7/12/2016 1:04 AM
I'm praying Trump doesn't make Christie his VP candidate. I was sickened the instant Christie dropped out clearly started campaigning for the job by supporting Trump. I rather he have nothing to do with this campaign. I certainly hope Trump refrains from rewarding him any lead role. Christie embodies everything wrong with politics and deceiving the public. Much rather see Carson, Kasich, Rubio, Ginrich or Ernst
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