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anyone see the Frankie Ice (Isola) article? [CLE, BOS, Melo rumor]
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NardDogNation
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2/15/2016  8:13 PM
dk7th wrote:
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SwishAndDish13 wrote:
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SwishAndDish13 wrote:I am late to the party here but why would Boston do this trade? They get the worst end of this and put themselves in a situation where they can't really win their own conference. Makes no sense at all.

Them getting Kevin Love makes them worse? How?

Kevin Love has proven he is a stretch as a max player. They improve Cleveland in this deal and help them unload the Love contract. It makes it almost impossible for them to compete with Cleveland while they have Love under contract.

In addition, to make this trade fair they would probably need to move one of the Nets picks which will likely be a top pick. Holding out and opening for Simmons or another franchise changing player makes more sense for them.

For the Knicks, you can't do the deal without a Nets pick inot there. The Celtics picks would be late 1st round which has low success rates. They'don't be better dumping Melo for a mid first if that was the path the chose.

Basically this trade only guarantees Cleveland help so what's the incentive for NY or Boston to do it?

Really? The team at the top of the Conference, with the 4th best record in the league has problems competing because of Kevin Love? The same team that made the Eastern Conference Finals the year before? The same Kevin Love who was the backbone of a starting lineup that had the highest +/- differential in the league with the Wolves? That guy is "stretch as a max player"?

it's just a case of a bad fit for him. i mean, when you're a forward or center on the cavaliers when do you actually see the ball when you have lebron, irving and smith out there? that's a TON of usage from those three so obviously kevin love is odd man out. same issue in la with griffin and paul. griffin is soooo much better without paul and vice versa. lebron should stop gm'ing like he's choosing sides in a pickup game.

Exacto! Love is the real deal.

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2/16/2016  9:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2016  9:11 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
dk7th wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:I am late to the party here but why would Boston do this trade? They get the worst end of this and put themselves in a situation where they can't really win their own conference. Makes no sense at all.

Them getting Kevin Love makes them worse? How?

Kevin Love has proven he is a stretch as a max player. They improve Cleveland in this deal and help them unload the Love contract. It makes it almost impossible for them to compete with Cleveland while they have Love under contract.

In addition, to make this trade fair they would probably need to move one of the Nets picks which will likely be a top pick. Holding out and opening for Simmons or another franchise changing player makes more sense for them.

For the Knicks, you can't do the deal without a Nets pick inot there. The Celtics picks would be late 1st round which has low success rates. They'don't be better dumping Melo for a mid first if that was the path the chose.

Basically this trade only guarantees Cleveland help so what's the incentive for NY or Boston to do it?

Really? The team at the top of the Conference, with the 4th best record in the league has problems competing because of Kevin Love? The same team that made the Eastern Conference Finals the year before? The same Kevin Love who was the backbone of a starting lineup that had the highest +/- differential in the league with the Wolves? That guy is "stretch as a max player"?

it's just a case of a bad fit for him. i mean, when you're a forward or center on the cavaliers when do you actually see the ball when you have lebron, irving and smith out there? that's a TON of usage from those three so obviously kevin love is odd man out. same issue in la with griffin and paul. griffin is soooo much better without paul and vice versa. lebron should stop gm'ing like he's choosing sides in a pickup game.

Exacto! Love is the real deal.

Surprised Love gets the stamp of approval here given his many short comings and the unrealistic expectations of many on here. If he ever became a Knick the abuse he would take would be unprecedented. That said, Cleveland would get substantially better in the deal. Trading for Love doesn't close the gap for them and makes their opponent better. I suppose it was easier to disregard that aspect of my post. If you widen or don't close the gap btwn yourself and the team in front of you, you didn't get better. Doesn't matter if they will be better on paper.

anyone see the Frankie Ice (Isola) article? [CLE, BOS, Melo rumor]

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