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12/23/2015  8:49 PM
dk7th wrote:i am impressed that the knicks are in this game. weird how well they play without melo.

Phil Jackson has done a very very underrated job in the team he put together. Melo's a great scorer, but he's not a playmaker for teammates natutally or makes teammates around him better. If he were, this team would be an eastern conference contender - 50 wins type. Melo creates mostly for Melo, and thus it doesn't fully utilize players around him.
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12/23/2015  8:50 PM
And these guys were in the finals last year.....

I know Phil is thinking, if only we had the draft first, then free agency.....I don't think Melo would be a knick right now. Phil could've used that max money more wisely.....I'm sorry, not trying to come across as a Melo hater.....I'm just a Melo fan because he's a knick. If he was on any other team, I would be trashing him. We could've used his cap space on a younger two way player.

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12/23/2015  8:50 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:With LT starting, he has played some really good D on Lebron, and he's contributing on the offensive end. His game has really evolved.

He has been awesome.
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12/23/2015  8:52 PM 
4Q - 10:58
CLE 72 NYK 74
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12/23/2015  8:52 PM
Louuuuuu
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12/23/2015  8:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2015  8:53 PM
Looks like Fisher is a better substitution coach when he has only solid role players and no star.

I'm telling you guys, it's very hard to find the right combination of players to fit around Melo.

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12/23/2015  8:52 PM
man i do not like the cavaliers players thompson, smith, williams
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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12/23/2015  8:53 PM
williams bailed out by dumbshyt shumpert whew
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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12/23/2015  8:54 PM
good d by williams on lbj daring him to go left on baseline
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12/23/2015  8:54 PM
Someone please explain to me why we switch so easily on defense?!?
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12/23/2015  8:55 PM
I really like Lou's energy.
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12/23/2015  8:55 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
dk7th wrote:i am impressed that the knicks are in this game. weird how well they play without melo.

Phil Jackson has done a very very underrated job in the team he put together. Melo's a great scorer, but he's not a playmaker for teammates natutally or makes teammates around him better. If he were, this team would be an eastern conference contender - 50 wins type. Melo creates mostly for Melo, and thus it doesn't fully utilize players around him.

well he has shown flashes but not enough to see a trend into that sort of franchise-level player. still has 50 games to elevate and solidify his game.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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12/23/2015  8:56 PM 
4Q - 9:18
CLE 75 NYK 74
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12/23/2015  8:56 PM
blkexec wrote:I really like Lou's energy.

He brings a lot to that second unit. I like him better than Seraphin.
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12/23/2015  8:57 PM
Malcolm wrote:Knicks have won the 2nd and 3rd quarters tonight.

In 30 games, they have now won at least 2 quarters about 25 times.

Does anyone else think this significant (?)

Not really, points for vs. points against for the season is a better indication of where the team stands.
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12/23/2015  8:57 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Someone please explain to me why we switch so easily on defense?!?

to counteract all the moving screens that NEVER get called

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12/23/2015  8:57 PM
This unit is playing really well on defense swarming to the ball!
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12/23/2015  8:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2015  8:59 PM
IDK what is wrong with Grant and why the hell does he always throws those layups into the stratosphere? Why doesn't he just try to shoot?
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12/23/2015  8:58 PM
Fisher left Porzingis out of the game too long. Offense really dried up. We had CLE on their backfoot. I think this will cost us, because CLE will close strong at home.
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12/23/2015  8:58 PM
dk7th wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Someone please explain to me why we switch so easily on defense?!?

to counteract all the moving screens that NEVER get called

True but just automatically switching without trying to fight through the screen is just lazy defense. You cannot just easily switch for bad mismatches.
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