mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

DrAlphaeus wrote:New Yorkers are Number One...

At turning true Knickslove into true Knicks disgust and coveting thy neighbor's power forward.

Spot on!!!

Uptown wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I haven't even brought up Barkley's lack of defense but let's hold everything against Ewing for putting up 20/10/2+ blocks on ****ty teams that had no business not only making the playoffs every year but go deep in the playoffs as well.

Again tell me why I'm drafting Barkley over Ewing?

ok ... so you really like ewing. No need to get all emotional.

Barkley vs Melo ... who you got?

It's not even close and neither is the Melo to Ewing comparisons

you love ewing but you need to step back and take a unbiased look.

Ewing >> barkley defensively

barkley >>>>>>>>> Ewing offensively

Ewing was a better team guy so I can see why one would want to start a franchise with him over barkley. Barkley was the type to say fuk philly!

The gall of a Knicks fan to love one of the greatest Knicks ever. How dare a fan(atic) be biased?

The way this thread has devolved off-topic is exactly what Melo was talking about... and yet it continues with no recognition of the irony. Yea what a dumb ballplayer. Who's so smart now?

You've been all over this thread!! Another Great Post!!!

you should be happy ... this change from an anti melo thread to another direction.

melo fans are never happy ... lol

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

Duncan was a better defender and barkley was a bit better on offense so tim wins but not by as much as you think.

so take a look at the 1990 sixers roster. They beat a really good cleveland team in the first round of the playoffs and lost to the bulls in the second round.

that roster was absolutely terrible. Look how barkley played and look at his numbers. See you can't always blame teammates for playing like crap. Barkley carried awful teams to playoff wins. That just shows how under appreciated he was. He pretty much went to the playoffs every year no matter who he played with and pretty much played great regardless of who his teammates were.

Do a little research into barkley if you want to really appreciate how great of a player he was.

His biggest problem especially early on in his career was that he was a bit of a dik but hey ... fuk philly and their azzhole fans.

I think that barkley has 3 of the top 25 playoff performances of all time as per espn (or some nba.com).

I think what you have to appreciate are guys playing within a team concept to win games versus guys who are just gunning it because they have no help..Not saying Barkely isn't a great player but you can't compare him to Duncan as their goals are completely different..Duncan is trying to win Chips versus Barkely putting a team on his back to survive..Its a different mindset and goals..I'm sure Duncan could score 40+ putting up 30 shots as well playing the game like its his last..

barkley avg'ed only 16 shots a game in the playoffs. No need to bob and weave.

He made the absolute best of what he had ... thats all you can ask from any player.

Duncan was/is an all time great but this was about the ewing comparison. I think that many including you did not realize or remember how great barkley was especially in the playoffs.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

Duncan was a better defender and barkley was a bit better on offense so tim wins but not by as much as you think.

so take a look at the 1990 sixers roster. They beat a really good cleveland team in the first round of the playoffs and lost to the bulls in the second round.

that roster was absolutely terrible. Look how barkley played and look at his numbers. See you can't always blame teammates for playing like crap. Barkley carried awful teams to playoff wins. That just shows how under appreciated he was. He pretty much went to the playoffs every year no matter who he played with and pretty much played great regardless of who his teammates were.

Do a little research into barkley if you want to really appreciate how great of a player he was.

His biggest problem especially early on in his career was that he was a bit of a dik but hey ... fuk philly and their azzhole fans.

I think that barkley has 3 of the top 25 playoff performances of all time as per espn (or some nba.com).

I think what you have to appreciate are guys playing within a team concept to win games versus guys who are just gunning it because they have no help..Not saying Barkely isn't a great player but you can't compare him to Duncan as their goals are completely different..Duncan is trying to win Chips versus Barkely putting a team on his back to survive..Its a different mindset and goals..I'm sure Duncan could score 40+ putting up 30 shots as well playing the game like its his last..

barkley avg'ed only 16 shots a game in the playoffs. No need to bob and weave.

He made the absolute best of what he had ... thats all you can ask from any player.

Duncan was/is an all time great but this was about the ewing comparison. I think that many including you did not realize or remember how great barkley was especially in the playoffs.

Barkley was never on any great perennial teams to be feared..Ewing was an all around great player..You forget his impact on defense who developed into a great offensive player..Ewing teams were perennial contenders and you are trying to post Barkley offensive playoff stats to prove a point..The goal was always to win a Chip and Ewing anchored a team that was a contender, Barley didn't carry that sort of weight..

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

Duncan was a better defender and barkley was a bit better on offense so tim wins but not by as much as you think.

so take a look at the 1990 sixers roster. They beat a really good cleveland team in the first round of the playoffs and lost to the bulls in the second round.

that roster was absolutely terrible. Look how barkley played and look at his numbers. See you can't always blame teammates for playing like crap. Barkley carried awful teams to playoff wins. That just shows how under appreciated he was. He pretty much went to the playoffs every year no matter who he played with and pretty much played great regardless of who his teammates were.

Do a little research into barkley if you want to really appreciate how great of a player he was.

His biggest problem especially early on in his career was that he was a bit of a dik but hey ... fuk philly and their azzhole fans.

I think that barkley has 3 of the top 25 playoff performances of all time as per espn (or some nba.com).

I think what you have to appreciate are guys playing within a team concept to win games versus guys who are just gunning it because they have no help..Not saying Barkely isn't a great player but you can't compare him to Duncan as their goals are completely different..Duncan is trying to win Chips versus Barkely putting a team on his back to survive..Its a different mindset and goals..I'm sure Duncan could score 40+ putting up 30 shots as well playing the game like its his last..

barkley avg'ed only 16 shots a game in the playoffs. No need to bob and weave.

He made the absolute best of what he had ... thats all you can ask from any player.

Duncan was/is an all time great but this was about the ewing comparison. I think that many including you did not realize or remember how great barkley was especially in the playoffs.

Barkley was never on any great perennial teams to be feared..Ewing was an all around great player..You forget his impact on defense who developed into a great offensive player..Ewing teams were perennial contenders and you are trying to post Barkley offensive playoff stats to prove a point..The goal was always to win a Chip and Ewing anchored a team that was a contender, Barley didn't carry that sort of weight..

another fluff answer with zero substance. Seriously? You are allowed to give up.

I just looked up Hakeem versus Barkley and their career numbers are close..Hakeem was much better player, not even close..

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

Duncan was a better defender and barkley was a bit better on offense so tim wins but not by as much as you think.

so take a look at the 1990 sixers roster. They beat a really good cleveland team in the first round of the playoffs and lost to the bulls in the second round.

that roster was absolutely terrible. Look how barkley played and look at his numbers. See you can't always blame teammates for playing like crap. Barkley carried awful teams to playoff wins. That just shows how under appreciated he was. He pretty much went to the playoffs every year no matter who he played with and pretty much played great regardless of who his teammates were.

Do a little research into barkley if you want to really appreciate how great of a player he was.

His biggest problem especially early on in his career was that he was a bit of a dik but hey ... fuk philly and their azzhole fans.

I think that barkley has 3 of the top 25 playoff performances of all time as per espn (or some nba.com).

I think what you have to appreciate are guys playing within a team concept to win games versus guys who are just gunning it because they have no help..Not saying Barkely isn't a great player but you can't compare him to Duncan as their goals are completely different..Duncan is trying to win Chips versus Barkely putting a team on his back to survive..Its a different mindset and goals..I'm sure Duncan could score 40+ putting up 30 shots as well in his prime playing the game like its his last..

you really don't understand the game of basketball.

I don't understand basketball and you were the one trying to compare O'Quinn's game to Boris Diaw's by just looking at his stats..What did you say? His game reminds you of Diaw?

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

Duncan was a better defender and barkley was a bit better on offense so tim wins but not by as much as you think.

so take a look at the 1990 sixers roster. They beat a really good cleveland team in the first round of the playoffs and lost to the bulls in the second round.

that roster was absolutely terrible. Look how barkley played and look at his numbers. See you can't always blame teammates for playing like crap. Barkley carried awful teams to playoff wins. That just shows how under appreciated he was. He pretty much went to the playoffs every year no matter who he played with and pretty much played great regardless of who his teammates were.

Do a little research into barkley if you want to really appreciate how great of a player he was.

His biggest problem especially early on in his career was that he was a bit of a dik but hey ... fuk philly and their azzhole fans.

I think that barkley has 3 of the top 25 playoff performances of all time as per espn (or some nba.com).

I think what you have to appreciate are guys playing within a team concept to win games versus guys who are just gunning it because they have no help..Not saying Barkely isn't a great player but you can't compare him to Duncan as their goals are completely different..Duncan is trying to win Chips versus Barkely putting a team on his back to survive..Its a different mindset and goals..I'm sure Duncan could score 40+ putting up 30 shots as well in his prime playing the game like its his last..

you really don't understand the game of basketball.

I don't understand basketball and you were the one trying to compare O'Quinn's game to Boris Diaw's by just looking at his stats..What did you say? His game reminds you of Diaw?

yup. still does. they are both willing passers and playmakers and like little rinky-dink midrange shots. you are as stubborn as you are blind and obtuse.

O'Quinn is no players who handles the ball..Dude is more like Oakley and KT who where tough on the inside and bruisers..

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:oh ... how about this one:

Barkley 1993 WCF game 5:

43-point night, shooting 16-of-22 from the floor and a perfect 11-for-11 from the line. He also managed to pick up 15 rebounds and 10 assists in the Suns' 120-114 victory over the Sonics.

simple triple double with some other treats but ... please someone post games from ewing similar to these.

I'm sure Tim Duncan never posted numbers like that but.....

he didn't have to. His teams were freakin stacked with HOFers. And, duncans playoff numbers are excellent as well.

holfresh, for once you can say ... "perhaps I was incorrect on this one"

Barkley is from the best playoff performers of all time. You picked a lemon on this arg.

But the point is that Barkely's numbers are slightly better than Tim in the playoffs and you know Tim is an around much better player..

Duncan was a better defender and barkley was a bit better on offense so tim wins but not by as much as you think.

so take a look at the 1990 sixers roster. They beat a really good cleveland team in the first round of the playoffs and lost to the bulls in the second round.

that roster was absolutely terrible. Look how barkley played and look at his numbers. See you can't always blame teammates for playing like crap. Barkley carried awful teams to playoff wins. That just shows how under appreciated he was. He pretty much went to the playoffs every year no matter who he played with and pretty much played great regardless of who his teammates were.

Do a little research into barkley if you want to really appreciate how great of a player he was.

His biggest problem especially early on in his career was that he was a bit of a dik but hey ... fuk philly and their azzhole fans.

I think that barkley has 3 of the top 25 playoff performances of all time as per espn (or some nba.com).

I think what you have to appreciate are guys playing within a team concept to win games versus guys who are just gunning it because they have no help..Not saying Barkely isn't a great player but you can't compare him to Duncan as their goals are completely different..Duncan is trying to win Chips versus Barkely putting a team on his back to survive..Its a different mindset and goals..I'm sure Duncan could score 40+ putting up 30 shots as well playing the game like its his last..

barkley avg'ed only 16 shots a game in the playoffs. No need to bob and weave.

He made the absolute best of what he had ... thats all you can ask from any player.

Duncan was/is an all time great but this was about the ewing comparison. I think that many including you did not realize or remember how great barkley was especially in the playoffs.

Barkley was never on any great perennial teams to be feared..Ewing was an all around great player..You forget his impact on defense who developed into a great offensive player..Ewing teams were perennial contenders and you are trying to post Barkley offensive playoff stats to prove a point..The goal was always to win a Chip and Ewing anchored a team that was a contender, Barley didn't carry that sort of weight..

another fluff answer with zero substance. Seriously? You are allowed to give up.

I just looked up Hakeem versus Barkley and their career numbers are close..Hakeem was much better player, not even close..

Hakeem was one of the best defensive players of all time. Barkley was certainly a better offensive player. Its closer than you think.

Again ... Ewing was no hakeem

I even question that Barkley was a better offensive player because Hakeem was one of the best post players of all time and virtually unstoppable..Barkley was a slasher and dunker..Not a great outside shooter or post player..His points came from attacking the rim..