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ChuckBuck
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8/11/2015  2:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

AUTOADVERT
crzymdups
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8/11/2015  2:31 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

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yellowboy90
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8/11/2015  2:35 PM
Are people going to keep this debate going already knowing where most people stand?

Is this thread about the Phil files?

ChuckBuck
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8/11/2015  2:36 PM
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

yellowboy90
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8/11/2015  2:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/11/2015  2:48 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

Also, people act like 2nd and 3rd all team NBA is garbage. Get real people.

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8/11/2015  2:46 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
yellowboy90
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8/11/2015  2:52 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

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8/11/2015  2:53 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

who gives a rats ass about individual stats, at the end of the day the fans want championships, and parades

ES
ChuckBuck
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8/11/2015  2:59 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

who gives a rats ass about individual stats, at the end of the day the fans want championships, and parades

Didn't Pau and Dirk win rings?

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8/11/2015  3:08 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

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8/11/2015  3:24 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Regarding Melo and Paul Pierce. Pierce was better point blank.

exactly ...

and we all know that Melo is a great player and a HOFer but we also know that he could be and needs to be so much better to be considered elite.

That's what all of us "lovers" have been trying to preach this whole time.

For Me7o to take it another level, take it another notch, while he's been in Blue and Orange. Make his teammates better, make that extra pass, play some D for once.

All we ever hear are excuses....Roster this, coach that, system this, wahhhhh wahhhhhhh

Shut the phuck up and play!

You are hanging you hat on 0.6 asst per game...with Rondo, KG and Ray Allen balling with you...

then you are missing out on paul pierce's artistry and greatness. he is also SO much more fun to watch than melo.

pierce has ball fakes, head fakes, foot fakes, maintains his dribble and changes direction like a knight on a chessboard, always makes the right pass at the right time, often in traffic. his footwork is elite. his defense is superior in every way to melo's too. lastly the dude is straight up cluuuutch.

he is superior in every way to carmelo anthony. in fact pierce has been criminally underrated and overlooked.

Just back from your liquid lunch I see...

you have zero ability to discern when i have been drinking.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  3:29 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

Well, I didn't bring him up. Also, you do care about the blame game because this is what your debate has been about. You blame Melo. That's fine.

But trying to predict future narratives about players when they still have more games left in them is stupid.

For the record I think Chris Paul is a better player than Melo. His only real flaw is his team can't sniff the conference finals. He ususally have good performances but two years ago he had a breakdown that cost his team late. Besides that he has been great minus Paul and Melo team's head to head match up in the playoffs. That was ugly ugly.

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8/11/2015  3:39 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

who gives a rats ass about individual stats, at the end of the day the fans want championships, and parades

this post is gibberish.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  3:43 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  4:00 PM
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Nice pull! Now I gotta make my pick!

I'll say way less efficient Adrian Dantley, but with 3s:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dantlad01.html

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8/11/2015  4:03 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TPercy wrote:Look at James harden, which all star was he playing with?

Dwight Howard, all star, who took his team to the Finals in 2009...Ariza is not an all star but played well with LA in the Finals..Josh Smith stepped up big time...Don't forget in one game the team played so well they kept Harden on the bench..

Amare was also "once" a great player.

Tyson is much better than Ariza

JR sixth man of the year

josh smith???? next

In regards to Tyson that was generally not the case in the spring during his tenure in NY. Weight loss, illness,injury, poor play and loss of heart characterized his springs in NY. I like that JR comes into the argument when it is convenient. Once Amare wrenched his back in the Miami series that first year he was done as a productive Knick. Salary cap albatross (for 4 years)is a much better description for him in my opinion.

JR sucks but holfresh thinks he is great so he can't say that the knicks did not have players and houston did.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/11/2015  4:14 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

Well, I didn't bring him up. Also, you do care about the blame game because this is what your debate has been about. You blame Melo. That's fine.

But trying to predict future narratives about players when they still have more games left in them is stupid.

For the record I think Chris Paul is a better player than Melo. His only real flaw is his team can't sniff the conference finals. He ususally have good performances but two years ago he had a breakdown that cost his team late. Besides that he has been great minus Paul and Melo team's head to head match up in the playoffs. That was ugly ugly.

Pauls playoff stat are off the charts. Melo's are off the charts horrible.

these two players should never ever ever ever be mentioned in any sort of comparison!

For the record, you think Paul is better than Melo --- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SH1TTTTTTTTTTTTTTT LOL

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/11/2015  4:22 PM
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Aguirre is a 3 time all-star and not even in the hall of fame. Melo will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. Please make realistic comparisons if you are to attempt that because these comments show you cannot be taken serious in a conversation such as this.

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8/11/2015  4:30 PM
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/11/2015  4:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/11/2015  4:34 PM
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holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

Only 5 players scored 20k faster than Melo. Jordan, Lebron, Oscar, Kobe, and Wilt, and this dude is comparing him to MARK AGUIRRE lol. Now melo isn't even in the same universe as those players who beat him to it, but the fact that the conversation has been dumbed down to this comparison hurts my head beyond belief! It's just astounding.

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