Nobody cares and everyone view this as a whatever signing of a young guy with not much chance to make it. One guy was upset because he prefered the Mavs signed.... yea, Jeremy Tyler.

foosballnick wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Knicks have busted a lot of choices whether trades or draft picks since Phil has been here. How long before he gives up on Galloway Derrick Williams Carmelo et . Phil had some luck that he listened to advi e on Porzingis and that we don't have Trey lyles and ty Lawson. He's good at bashing others latest bashing the entire Duke organizatione. Hope we grab the GS C that they had no space 4 Carlos boozer and a pg but who the f knows.

Upset that phil giving up already on these guys. You've gone grumpy to the dark side.

Grumpy--Im just stating fact. There is a whole article just out recently where Phil bashes the entire Duke(college) organization(why is the Knicks president bashing duke?). Hes excellent at bashing. Was it really that classy to bash Shump JR(and hes in free agency) Tim Hardaway after their gone? We made trades or moves to pick up guys like Schyed Larkin Early Ledo Ndour Thansis used 2 of our own draft picks on a guy who --well who knows if he ll ever come here when there were kids we couldve used from the G position available? Lets see how long guys like Lopez or Williams stay flavor of the day--hes quick to turn color. AND the only guy he really shouldve turned on was Calderon and hes our center piece guard. Good luck with our defense there Phil.

I think we should pick up Boozer(vet who can score in low post) the GA C he just needs opportunity and a young PG who has some speed in his game---I think its reasonable logic? Lets just stick to basics Phil.

One of my pet peeves on Internet Boards is when posters claim they are stating "facts" when they are actually stating "opinions". Sorry, but it drives me crazy. Also wanted to say that regarding the Duke comments....he did not bash the entire Duke organization - he just questioned the Duke program in terms of how their players perform to expectation or not in the NBA - which is a very fair point to make.....

Jackson Comments -

At best, the Knicks would get the first pick and tab center Jahlil Okafor, although Jackson thinks he might not be aggressive enough. “Also, if you look at the guys who came to the NBA from Duke, aside from Grant Hill, which ones lived up to expectations?”

Yeah you're on the right board for that cause people talk in facts all the time on here when they have zero facts.

foosballnick wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Knicks have busted a lot of choices whether trades or draft picks since Phil has been here. How long before he gives up on Galloway Derrick Williams Carmelo et . Phil had some luck that he listened to advi e on Porzingis and that we don't have Trey lyles and ty Lawson. He's good at bashing others latest bashing the entire Duke organizatione. Hope we grab the GS C that they had no space 4 Carlos boozer and a pg but who the f knows.

Upset that phil giving up already on these guys. You've gone grumpy to the dark side.

Grumpy--Im just stating fact. There is a whole article just out recently where Phil bashes the entire Duke(college) organization(why is the Knicks president bashing duke?). Hes excellent at bashing. Was it really that classy to bash Shump JR(and hes in free agency) Tim Hardaway after their gone? We made trades or moves to pick up guys like Schyed Larkin Early Ledo Ndour Thansis used 2 of our own draft picks on a guy who --well who knows if he ll ever come here when there were kids we couldve used from the G position available? Lets see how long guys like Lopez or Williams stay flavor of the day--hes quick to turn color. AND the only guy he really shouldve turned on was Calderon and hes our center piece guard. Good luck with our defense there Phil.

I think we should pick up Boozer(vet who can score in low post) the GA C he just needs opportunity and a young PG who has some speed in his game---I think its reasonable logic? Lets just stick to basics Phil.

One of my pet peeves on Internet Boards is when posters claim they are stating "facts" when they are actually stating "opinions". Sorry, but it drives me crazy. Also wanted to say that regarding the Duke comments....he did not bash the entire Duke organization - he just questioned the Duke program in terms of how their players perform to expectation or not in the NBA - which is a very fair point to make.....

Jackson Comments -

At best, the Knicks would get the first pick and tab center Jahlil Okafor, although Jackson thinks he might not be aggressive enough. “Also, if you look at the guys who came to the NBA from Duke, aside from Grant Hill, which ones lived up to expectations?”

Point taken, Briggs. Phil Jackson has wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much to say to the media, on twitter esp., etc.. Way too much. I haven't cared for any of his extracurricular comments since he's been here. and ya know what--I missed his Duke comments--not even sure what he said but I gather it's par for the course with how he's been...It comes off amateurish...STFU and build this team into a winner. Don't worry about putting energy into anything else.

You have an awful lot to say on an internet message board. How come you aren't listening to your own advice and STFU and putting all or your energy into your job, real life etc. Don't you find it hypocritical to criticize someone else for both their performance, how stupid they are, their motives and how they waste time using social media when in fact you are doing the same thing yourself?

Finestrg wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:It's okay to have lance and Thomas but it's dumb to take money out of the cap to pay those guys. I said before, a vet min deal for loud would be around 1.5m, and the league pays part of it. So that's why it's silly. Just make good financial and ball decisions. Why, hold on to your room exception but let 3.2m go to end of bench guys. Even if you don't get anyone you leave room for trades.

From a financial perspective I agree. However I also understand why he did it. He likely wanted to secure good locker room guys who would support Fisher and also who had some experience in the Triangle. We will never know if these guys would have signed for one year vet min contracts with the Knicks or not. He likely feels he already has enough younger guys to develop and wants to ensure a hard working ethical veteran presence to balance the roster. I liked what I say from NDour and he could develop nicely - but it was still only summer league and for Dallas to even partially guarantee for multiple years prior to TC seems like a curious move.

Oh, come on...Not another personal attack, please. LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Who's this, newyorker under a different handle? Gimmie a break already... Listen up everyone who has a problem with me and listen good -- I have no agenda at all. I love this team and call it like I see it with things and I judge each situation on it's own. Phil had a VERY GOOD draft and I said so. Didn't like Hardaway at all (so for some to say I thought he was great--get your act together and go back and re-read my thoughts on him) and loved that trade for Grant; I liked the Alexey Shved acqusition, don't like letting him get away and I said so... Liked Mo Ndour a lot--was very much looking forward to seeing what he could've developed into: part Ken Faried, part Chris Copeland, part DeMarre Carroll maybe? I dunno but he's gone now over a small amount of money and I'm upset by it. If some of you aren't, OK. I don't care for letting him go the way we did--let's agree to disagree...Was 50/50 on the Ty Chandler trade but said at the time that taking back Calderon's salary wasn't good at all and it wasn't--that trade did nothing for us. Don't care for how some of the FA stuff was handled (I wanted Greg Monroe for instance--I think he would've been a 20/10 big man here--and I believe we didn't offer that man a max deal---yeah, I get my info from the internet and the papers, if others get their info elsewhere or chose not to believe what was written about something (cross referenced by multiple sources I might add), OK, no problem. If others chose to believe Phil offered the max, great. I don't--and since then, there's been a pattern to support that he's been lowballing players...I thought the follow-up moves that he did make in FA were decent though AND SAID SO. I like O'Quinn, Afflalo, I even like D-Will--no problem taking a chance on that kid's upside AND I FUCKING SAID SO!! And now flip side again--I don't care for not finishing off the roster when there were/still are good viable players on the board that won't be there forever...And I personally think he's got way too much to say about other people, other teams and organizations, his own players, former players, TNT analysts that were critical of him -- I don't care for it. If others don't care about him popping off all over the joint, OK fine. I don't care for it. Bottom line -- to me Phil's been a mixed bag so far, probably more stuff I don't care for than I do to be fair but that's ME. That's how I feel...Yeah, it's a message board--at least you got that part right...WTF am I supposed to do, come on here and not share my thoughts? It's ok for you and newyorker to come on here and sound off with your 50 posts combined but a guy that's been around since '06 can't share his thoughts?? Have I got you right? GTFOH man.. Some of you have gone lost your ****ing minds, man. Wow..

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/624339512722911234

And I'm going to guess the vet minimum? 500k + 250k. That is what stopped us from getting him?
And what did we just give out to Thomas and Amundson?
Amazing

only your inability to grasp the reasoning behind it. Disagree? Fine. Nothing amazing about it.

Sounds like this is personal to you, especially when you don't even list the reason.
And on top of that, throw over half of both boards into your comment as most are upset.

Not at all. Im not the one amazed about a debacle of not signing an undrafted player with 4 good SL games to my 15th roster spot.

I have given reasons. You seem to think that this is a 100% failure on the Knicks and Phil and that we got outbid.

I have said first and foremost that Dalls is simply a better situation for him. Half the board? More like the same 4 guys posting it over and over again.

Lets actually put some thought into this:
Go look at NY vs. Dal rosters.

1) What position in the NBA will NDour play?
2) Which roster offers greater probability for playing time?

You are using words like amazing and debacle. Not me. You are assuming the Knicks were outbid, which may be true and is also likely about 5% of the reason he went to Dallas. They are short on bigs. He's going to get more playing time. See?

Two of the FAs Knicks signed play his position. The Knicks franchise draft pick plays his position. Melo also gets minutes at his position. The Mavs? They have a 37 year old Dirk. After that? Its guys like Dwight Powell, Greg Smith and Charlie Vilanueva.

So you tell me... did you look at this? Did you consider this had very little to do with being outbid and everything to do with a young player trying to establish a career in the league going to the situation where he had the most growth opportunity?

Have you and all the others disgusted and amazed by the new heights of ineptitude reached by Phil considered this?

Or is it as simple and narrowminded as NDour is better than Lance Thomas so Phil and the Knicks are retards and thats a debacle... because that is all I hear from you and the other 4 guys kicking and screaming about this

I never said this was a 100% failure on the Knicks. You disagree with my word "debacle" and then go and say something like 100% failure to be representative of my words. And you say it isn't personal, but saying things like "my inability to grasp the reasoning behind it." Sorry bro, that is personal and insulting language. So I don't agree with your view so I'm incapable of grasping the reasoning behind it. I'm going off of what the news was, he got a better offer. I can grasp that.

We made an offer to Ndour, so there must have been a need. He clearly had triangle skills, like shooting, passing and rebounding, not to mention defense. I imagine Ndour would play the 3 or 4. You seem to think this is primarily about playing time? I say it is about money. That is what the information alludes to. I'm sure playing time is in there but so is winning and we have a better roster than Dallas. It still seems to come down to guaranteed money, that was the statement.

I am aware that he can get more playing time in Dallas. But my primary reasoning, as I said, is what the news stated - We were essentially outbid. It is reasonable to include playing time, of course, but what has happened during most of FA? Money rules, yeah, guys like Aldridge can choose their position, etc. Why did we lose Monroe (who I didn't want, actually)? We were outbid. I don't have a problem with that one, but it has happened before.

Yeah, I'm sure most basketball fans that are not happy with this decision have thought of your points. It isn't a reach, it is common sense - playing time, fit, etc. Last time - it wasn't mentioned, money was. So, maybe you got it right and the reporters have got it wrong or just failed to mention it, but it seems like money rules here.

Regarding the narrow mindedness comment (another personal attack), just because others don't agree with you or rather just didn't mention your points (e.g., playing time), doesn't mean they are wrong. It goes both ways. We went for what we felt was the main point - money.

EMS

ps - TPercy made some good points here.

You FA comparison to guys looking max contracts vs. NDour means nothing. Every situation is different. You didnt mention David West. He went for the money right? No he didnt. He went for a better sitatuation. Therefore its clear NDour did the same. Situation rules. Aldrdige.. situation. We were outbid on Monroe? Not according to his agent... but again why bother with facts. All that is just noise anyway. None of it has anything to do with NDour. Nada. Just because you quit your job for a better wage doesnt mean I would. I can get double my current salary if I go work for a bank. I dont want to. The extra cash wont compensate for how miserable I would be.

You think $300k matters to a guy trying to make a career in the NBA? $500k? Thats not the payday he's looking for. He wants what Draymond Green got. He wants to go play, not sit behind 4 other guys.

Sorry dude. My argument is logic and use your eyes. Your arguement is you read it in the tabloids. We missed out on NDour. We are doomed. Nobody cares on the Dallas board. This is a move to fill a roster spot

newyorker4ever wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/624339512722911234

And I'm going to guess the vet minimum? 500k + 250k. That is what stopped us from getting him?
And what did we just give out to Thomas and Amundson?
Amazing

only your inability to grasp the reasoning behind it. Disagree? Fine. Nothing amazing about it.

Sounds like this is personal to you, especially when you don't even list the reason.
And on top of that, throw over half of both boards into your comment as most are upset.

Sounds to me like you're jumping to conclusions before you know the truth.

Ian Begley posted it. It is as close to truth as we have.
What is your story?

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/624339512722911234

And I'm going to guess the vet minimum? 500k + 250k. That is what stopped us from getting him?
And what did we just give out to Thomas and Amundson?
Amazing

only your inability to grasp the reasoning behind it. Disagree? Fine. Nothing amazing about it.

Sounds like this is personal to you, especially when you don't even list the reason.
And on top of that, throw over half of both boards into your comment as most are upset.

Not at all. Im not the one amazed about a debacle of not signing an undrafted player with 4 good SL games to my 15th roster spot.

I have given reasons. You seem to think that this is a 100% failure on the Knicks and Phil and that we got outbid.

I have said first and foremost that Dalls is simply a better situation for him. Half the board? More like the same 4 guys posting it over and over again.

Lets actually put some thought into this:
Go look at NY vs. Dal rosters.

1) What position in the NBA will NDour play?
2) Which roster offers greater probability for playing time?

You are using words like amazing and debacle. Not me. You are assuming the Knicks were outbid, which may be true and is also likely about 5% of the reason he went to Dallas. They are short on bigs. He's going to get more playing time. See?

Two of the FAs Knicks signed play his position. The Knicks franchise draft pick plays his position. Melo also gets minutes at his position. The Mavs? They have a 37 year old Dirk. After that? Its guys like Dwight Powell, Greg Smith and Charlie Vilanueva.

So you tell me... did you look at this? Did you consider this had very little to do with being outbid and everything to do with a young player trying to establish a career in the league going to the situation where he had the most growth opportunity?

Have you and all the others disgusted and amazed by the new heights of ineptitude reached by Phil considered this?

Or is it as simple and narrowminded as NDour is better than Lance Thomas so Phil and the Knicks are retards and thats a debacle... because that is all I hear from you and the other 4 guys kicking and screaming about this

I never said this was a 100% failure on the Knicks. You disagree with my word "debacle" and then go and say something like 100% failure to be representative of my words. And you say it isn't personal, but saying things like "my inability to grasp the reasoning behind it." Sorry bro, that is personal and insulting language. So I don't agree with your view so I'm incapable of grasping the reasoning behind it. I'm going off of what the news was, he got a better offer. I can grasp that.

We made an offer to Ndour, so there must have been a need. He clearly had triangle skills, like shooting, passing and rebounding, not to mention defense. I imagine Ndour would play the 3 or 4. You seem to think this is primarily about playing time? I say it is about money. That is what the information alludes to. I'm sure playing time is in there but so is winning and we have a better roster than Dallas. It still seems to come down to guaranteed money, that was the statement.

I am aware that he can get more playing time in Dallas. But my primary reasoning, as I said, is what the news stated - We were essentially outbid. It is reasonable to include playing time, of course, but what has happened during most of FA? Money rules, yeah, guys like Aldridge can choose their position, etc. Why did we lose Monroe (who I didn't want, actually)? We were outbid. I don't have a problem with that one, but it has happened before.

Yeah, I'm sure most basketball fans that are not happy with this decision have thought of your points. It isn't a reach, it is common sense - playing time, fit, etc. Last time - it wasn't mentioned, money was. So, maybe you got it right and the reporters have got it wrong or just failed to mention it, but it seems like money rules here.

Regarding the narrow mindedness comment (another personal attack), just because others don't agree with you or rather just didn't mention your points (e.g., playing time), doesn't mean they are wrong. It goes both ways. We went for what we felt was the main point - money.

EMS

ps - TPercy made some good points here.

Quit the personal attack crap. Its baby sh!t. Really. Im asking have you considered all the factors in this? You clearly have NOT, satisfied to rely on tabloid that report what they think.

You FA comparison to guys looking max contracts vs. NDour means nothing. Every situation is different. You didnt mention David West. He went for the money right? No he didnt. He went for a better sitatuation. Therefore its clear NDour did the same. Situation rules. Aldrdige.. situation. We were outbid on Monroe? Not according to his agent... but again why bother with facts. All that is just noise anyway. None of it has anything to do with NDour. Nada. Just because you quit your job for a better wage doesnt mean I would. I can get double my current salary if I go work for a bank. I dont want to. The extra cash wont compensate for how miserable I would be.

You think $300k matters to a guy trying to make a career in the NBA? $500k? Thats not the payday he's looking for. He wants what Draymond Green got. He wants to go play, not sit behind 4 other guys.

Sorry dude. My argument is logic and use your eyes. Your arguement is you read it in the tabloids. We missed out on NDour. We are doomed. Nobody cares on the Dallas board. This is a move to fill a roster spot

Man, you don't give up. I said yes I considered it, but you don't believe that? How can we communicate then?
And you can attack people but we can't talk about it? Not to do in like, honest question, are you a controlling kind of person? Because you don't seem to leave any room for dissent.
If something doesn't fit your view it is discounted, instead of discussed. Your view or no view.

No sense going on with you. We will agree to disagree.

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/624339512722911234

And I'm going to guess the vet minimum? 500k + 250k. That is what stopped us from getting him?
And what did we just give out to Thomas and Amundson?
Amazing

only your inability to grasp the reasoning behind it. Disagree? Fine. Nothing amazing about it.

Sounds like this is personal to you, especially when you don't even list the reason.
And on top of that, throw over half of both boards into your comment as most are upset.

Not at all. Im not the one amazed about a debacle of not signing an undrafted player with 4 good SL games to my 15th roster spot.

I have given reasons. You seem to think that this is a 100% failure on the Knicks and Phil and that we got outbid.

I have said first and foremost that Dalls is simply a better situation for him. Half the board? More like the same 4 guys posting it over and over again.

Lets actually put some thought into this:
Go look at NY vs. Dal rosters.

1) What position in the NBA will NDour play?
2) Which roster offers greater probability for playing time?

You are using words like amazing and debacle. Not me. You are assuming the Knicks were outbid, which may be true and is also likely about 5% of the reason he went to Dallas. They are short on bigs. He's going to get more playing time. See?

Two of the FAs Knicks signed play his position. The Knicks franchise draft pick plays his position. Melo also gets minutes at his position. The Mavs? They have a 37 year old Dirk. After that? Its guys like Dwight Powell, Greg Smith and Charlie Vilanueva.

So you tell me... did you look at this? Did you consider this had very little to do with being outbid and everything to do with a young player trying to establish a career in the league going to the situation where he had the most growth opportunity?

Have you and all the others disgusted and amazed by the new heights of ineptitude reached by Phil considered this?

Or is it as simple and narrowminded as NDour is better than Lance Thomas so Phil and the Knicks are retards and thats a debacle... because that is all I hear from you and the other 4 guys kicking and screaming about this

I never said this was a 100% failure on the Knicks. You disagree with my word "debacle" and then go and say something like 100% failure to be representative of my words. And you say it isn't personal, but saying things like "my inability to grasp the reasoning behind it." Sorry bro, that is personal and insulting language. So I don't agree with your view so I'm incapable of grasping the reasoning behind it. I'm going off of what the news was, he got a better offer. I can grasp that.

We made an offer to Ndour, so there must have been a need. He clearly had triangle skills, like shooting, passing and rebounding, not to mention defense. I imagine Ndour would play the 3 or 4. You seem to think this is primarily about playing time? I say it is about money. That is what the information alludes to. I'm sure playing time is in there but so is winning and we have a better roster than Dallas. It still seems to come down to guaranteed money, that was the statement.

I am aware that he can get more playing time in Dallas. But my primary reasoning, as I said, is what the news stated - We were essentially outbid. It is reasonable to include playing time, of course, but what has happened during most of FA? Money rules, yeah, guys like Aldridge can choose their position, etc. Why did we lose Monroe (who I didn't want, actually)? We were outbid. I don't have a problem with that one, but it has happened before.

Yeah, I'm sure most basketball fans that are not happy with this decision have thought of your points. It isn't a reach, it is common sense - playing time, fit, etc. Last time - it wasn't mentioned, money was. So, maybe you got it right and the reporters have got it wrong or just failed to mention it, but it seems like money rules here.

Regarding the narrow mindedness comment (another personal attack), just because others don't agree with you or rather just didn't mention your points (e.g., playing time), doesn't mean they are wrong. It goes both ways. We went for what we felt was the main point - money.

EMS

ps - TPercy made some good points here.

Quit the personal attack crap. Its baby sh!t. Really. Im asking have you considered all the factors in this? You clearly have NOT, satisfied to rely on tabloid that report what they think.

You FA comparison to guys looking max contracts vs. NDour means nothing. Every situation is different. You didnt mention David West. He went for the money right? No he didnt. He went for a better sitatuation. Therefore its clear NDour did the same. Situation rules. Aldrdige.. situation. We were outbid on Monroe? Not according to his agent... but again why bother with facts. All that is just noise anyway. None of it has anything to do with NDour. Nada. Just because you quit your job for a better wage doesnt mean I would. I can get double my current salary if I go work for a bank. I dont want to. The extra cash wont compensate for how miserable I would be.

You think $300k matters to a guy trying to make a career in the NBA? $500k? Thats not the payday he's looking for. He wants what Draymond Green got. He wants to go play, not sit behind 4 other guys.

Sorry dude. My argument is logic and use your eyes. Your arguement is you read it in the tabloids. We missed out on NDour. We are doomed. Nobody cares on the Dallas board. This is a move to fill a roster spot

Man, you don't give up. I said yes I considered it, but you don't believe that? How can we communicate then?
And you can attack people but we can't talk about it? Not to do in like, honest question, are you a controlling kind of person? Because you don't seem to leave any room for dissent.
If something doesn't fit your view it is discounted, instead of discussed. Your view or no view.

No sense going on with you. We will agree to disagree.

Dallas fans see this as cheap replacement to Aminu... a "poor mans" replacement to a guy who averaged like 6 point and 5 boards. Perspective right? Its fine. You win mate. If you want to call this a fail by the Knicks and rattle that can rattle away.

Is calling me controlling a personal insult or just lending a helping hand pointing out personality flaws?

We are talking about the 14th spot on the roster, for a 23 year old undrafted rookie. More perspective. People would rather talk about how missing on this guy is amazing, a debacle or whatever defcon1 adjective gets thrown around here for 8 pages than comment on the articles about how good KP is. Nuts. Ill move along

foosballnick wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:It's okay to have lance and Thomas but it's dumb to take money out of the cap to pay those guys. I said before, a vet min deal for loud would be around 1.5m, and the league pays part of it. So that's why it's silly. Just make good financial and ball decisions. Why, hold on to your room exception but let 3.2m go to end of bench guys. Even if you don't get anyone you leave room for trades.

From a financial perspective I agree. However I also understand why he did it. He likely wanted to secure good locker room guys who would support Fisher and also who had some experience in the Triangle. We will never know if these guys would have signed for one year vet min contracts with the Knicks or not. He likely feels he already has enough younger guys to develop and wants to ensure a hard working ethical veteran presence to balance the roster. I liked what I say from NDour and he could develop nicely - but it was still only summer league and for Dallas to even partially guarantee for multiple years prior to TC seems like a curious move.

Oh, come on...Not another personal attack, please. LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Who's this, newyorker under a different handle? Gimmie a break already... Listen up everyone who has a problem with me and listen good -- I have no agenda at all. I love this team and call it like I see it with things and I judge each situation on it's own. Phil had a VERY GOOD draft and I said so. Didn't like Hardaway at all (so for some to say I thought he was great--get your act together and go back and re-read my thoughts on him) and loved that trade for Grant; I liked the Alexey Shved acqusition, don't like letting him get away and I said so... Liked Mo Ndour a lot--was very much looking forward to seeing what he could've developed into: part Ken Faried, part Chris Copeland, part DeMarre Carroll maybe? I dunno but he's gone now over a small amount of money and I'm upset by it. If some of you aren't, OK. I don't care for letting him go the way we did--let's agree to disagree...Was 50/50 on the Ty Chandler trade but said at the time that taking back Calderon's salary wasn't good at all and it wasn't--that trade did nothing for us. Don't care for how some of the FA stuff was handled (I wanted Greg Monroe for instance--I think he would've been a 20/10 big man here--and I believe we didn't offer that man a max deal---yeah, I get my info from the internet and the papers, if others get their info elsewhere or chose not to believe what was written about something (cross referenced by multiple sources I might add), OK, no problem. If others chose to believe Phil offered the max, great. I don't--and since then, there's been a pattern to support that he's been lowballing players...I thought the follow-up moves that he did make in FA were decent though AND SAID SO. I like O'Quinn, Afflalo, I even like D-Will--no problem taking a chance on that kid's upside AND I FUCKING SAID SO!! And now flip side again--I don't care for not finishing off the roster when there were/still are good viable players on the board that won't be there forever...And I personally think he's got way too much to say about other people, other teams and organizations, his own players, former players, TNT analysts that were critical of him -- I don't care for it. If others don't care about him popping off all over the joint, OK fine. I don't care for it. Bottom line -- to me Phil's been a mixed bag so far, probably more stuff I don't care for than I do to be fair but that's ME. That's how I feel...Yeah, it's a message board--at least you got that part right...WTF am I supposed to do, come on here and not share my thoughts? It's ok for you and newyorker to come on here and sound off with your 50 posts combined but a guy that's been around since '06 can't share his thoughts?? Have I got you right? GTFOH man.. Some of you have gone lost your ****ing minds, man. Wow..

One of the other pet peeve's I have on message boards is when posters try to win an argument or call people out by their number of posts or how long they've been on a board (2010 for me BTW - and 2 years of lurking prior to that). The point is that you're a very agressive poster who has many opinions in putting people down (such as PJ down) for things like tweeting or calling him out as basically an idiot. Essentially you are putting him down for the same things that you do on this board. My post was not a personal attack - it was an observation of your aggressive and hypocritical posting style.

Man, the last thing I wanna do is detract from talking basketball but you guys are giving me no choice... What the flying **** are you talking about now?!@?! Putting people down??? What a joke..Who on here have I put down? newyorker?? F that jerkoff. He started with me, buddy.. Go back and read through this thread again. Other recent threads too I believe.. Dude's gone out of his way to get personal with me. F him--you say stupid, personal ****, count on there being a response.. Until it gets stale and boring which this **** has gotten real fast... Now you're going down the same path. What, I got two for the price of one now? Great..LOL. Wow, lucky me. Up until the past few days, and then only with this newyorker, I've had no problems with anyone. I'll disagree with others' opinions on things, sure, but I've never gotten personal--never gone out of my way to be a wise ass, never attacked another poster's style (that's a great one btw), unless I felt the need to defend myself which even that has gotten pointless. OK, you guys win -- you can have the last word...Is that it now? If I concede that, can we all resume talking sports?? I mean come on now, man, really...I've always gone out of my way to be complimentary to the other posters on here. If I disagreed with someone, I usually respond by saying stuff like "agree to disagree" or "I disagree, respectfully," or I just choose not to add to the discussion. Ask anyone on here if that's true or not. Then outta left field, here comes some brand new poster getting personal...And now a second one.. LOL. OK... You're right--I guess I am calling Phil out for a few things and for being an idiot on twitter. I don't want the team president of my team conducting himself on social media and such LIKE A JACKASS!! It ruins our credibility, his credibility... Again, like I said before, if you're OK with how he's conducted himself, power to ya. You've got your pet peeves--well guess what friend, that's one of mine. Never realized it because we haven't had a president or GM conduct himself like that before. And as for his body of work since coming here, some stuff he's done I've supported and made it known; more than some stuff he's done however (or not done) has been spotty at best and I've voiced my displeasure... I make no apologies for how I feel about anything. None whatsoever...If you have a problem with it--you have choices: disagree in a civilized manner and we can discuss it or ignore whatever I'm talking about. Trust me, I won't lose any sleep over it. Not a wink. Tell your pal newyorker that too. I'm done wasting time talking about this ****. You guys are barking up the wrong tree...You now--I mean I don't even know what the F you're talking about. Aggressive poster? Huh? What the hell does that mean? I think I'm actually a very easy person to talk to, even on a message board...Hypocritical?? LOL...WTF are you talking about? How have I been hypocritical exactly?? You wanna take me to task on something bud, back it up with examples. Otherwise, let's agree to end this **** now and move on.