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DrAlphaeus
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2/24/2015  1:27 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

You don't honestly think he has anything insightful to say about basketball, do you?

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2/24/2015  1:29 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

Maybe, but Mike knock on Melo leads me to believe Dolan isn't behind it..Also, Mike doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to hoops...

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2/24/2015  1:30 PM
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

Maybe, but Mike knock on Melo leads me to believe Dolan isn't behind it..Also, Mike doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to hoops...

I think Francesca just runs with the venom from the back pages. If he's the Sports Pope, I'm a Sports Protestant.

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2/24/2015  1:42 PM
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

Maybe, but Mike knock on Melo leads me to believe Dolan isn't behind it..Also, Mike doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to hoops...

He knows hoops just not present day NBA hoops. He relies on so-called "expect" opinions which are sometimes jaded and misinformed. And most importantly his Garden contacts which he's proven he has.

But as for as his overall show and interviewing abilities they are second to none. I ofter find Kay's people listening to Francesa's show as they always talk about what went on in his show and blatantly copying Francesa's interview questions and topics.

Without Francesa the Michael Kay show would not exist. Not only did Mike pave the way but he provides them with their daily material, interviews questions and talking points.

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2/24/2015  1:43 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

You don't honestly think he has anything insightful to say about basketball, do you?

See my reply to Holfresh. I've been listening to Francesa for 20yrs

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2/24/2015  1:50 PM
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DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

You don't honestly think he has anything insightful to say about basketball, do you?

See my reply to Holfresh. I've been listening to Francesa for 20yrs

I not a fan of Francesca or Kay. If Mike doesn't know about present-day hoops and only about hoops from 15-20 years ago, that's fine for a 30 for 30 documentary but as for today: save your breath.

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2/24/2015  1:53 PM
No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying
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2/24/2015  1:57 PM
gunsnewing wrote:No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying

Where has it been proven he has Garden sources?

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2/24/2015  2:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2015  2:06 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying

Where has it been proven he has Garden sources?

He constantly breaks new like when he went on with Joe & Evan to break that the Rangers fired Torterella. He heard it directly from someone in the Garden.

May very well be Dolan who he sucks up to now or one Dolans people.

Dolan may very well be using Mike as an avenue to try to silence Phil

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2/24/2015  2:06 PM
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holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying

Where has it been proven he has Garden sources?

He constantly breaks new like when he went on with Joe & Evan to break that the Rangers fired Torterella. He heard it directly from someone in the Garden.

Msy very well be Dolan who he sucks up to now or one Dolans people

I have never heard him break any Knick news...

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2/24/2015  2:08 PM
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying

Where has it been proven he has Garden sources?

He constantly breaks new like when he went on with Joe & Evan to break that the Rangers fired Torterella. He heard it directly from someone in the Garden.

Msy very well be Dolan who he sucks up to now or one Dolans people

I have never heard him break any Knick news...

You might be right but usually when Mike kisses someone's ass or deflects blame from someone who is killed in every other media outlet(See A-Rod) it is usually to boost his own show and ratings

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2/24/2015  2:16 PM
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holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying

Where has it been proven he has Garden sources?

He constantly breaks new like when he went on with Joe & Evan to break that the Rangers fired Torterella. He heard it directly from someone in the Garden.

Msy very well be Dolan who he sucks up to now or one Dolans people

I have never heard him break any Knick news...

You might be right but usually when Mike kisses someone's ass or deflects blame from someone who is killed in every other media outlet(See A-Rod) it is usually to boost his own show and ratings

Sounds like he's just a contrarian, and is running with recent back page opinions like those of Raismann to proclaim Phil a failure, to seem like he knows what he's talking about and spark call-ins.

As for Raismann, his "Guitar Jimmy" vendetta would be entertaining as a UK poster, but embarrassing as a big city journalist, or editorialist, or whatever he's supposed to be doing.

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2/24/2015  2:19 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No Doc I agree with you. Francesa is clueless regarding the nba. I would not take his opinions seriously. However its been proven he has Garden sources. That's why I said there might be some truth to what Bob Raismann is saying

Where has it been proven he has Garden sources?

He constantly breaks new like when he went on with Joe & Evan to break that the Rangers fired Torterella. He heard it directly from someone in the Garden.

Msy very well be Dolan who he sucks up to now or one Dolans people

I have never heard him break any Knick news...

You might be right but usually when Mike kisses someone's ass or deflects blame from someone who is killed in every other media outlet(See A-Rod) it is usually to boost his own show and ratings

Sounds like he's just a contrarian, and is running with recent back page opinions like those of Raismann to proclaim Phil a failure, to seem like he knows what he's talking about and spark call-ins.

As for Raismann, his "Guitar Jimmy" vendetta would be entertaining as a UK poster, but embarrassing as a big city journalist, or editorialist, or whatever he's supposed to be doing.

No no anything But!

No one has been more supportive of Phil than Mike. Mike read Phil's book and has upmost respect for him. If he's changing his tone now you can bet someone in the Garden is in his ear. Or maybe he's just being critical of this one particular incident. You will know it if he does a complete 180 and starts to bash Phil's every move from here on out

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2/24/2015  2:32 PM
Not sure anyone posted this but this is Francesa comments about Phil...

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2/24/2015  2:43 PM
yea and while you are at it search Mike Francesa Phil Jackson and you will see that he's been very supportive of Phil until this^
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2/24/2015  2:52 PM
After hearing it, I'll admit, I can't say I disagree too much with His Sports Holiness:

- Signing Melo to that contract seemed to me like a dubious decision to me at the time, and Phil's career here will continue to hang on that decision, whether good or bad.

- Phil's tweets were weird. I don't know what he was trying to call out the current Knicks on the court, or the former Knicks or what, but whatever he was doing fell flat in public. Hopefully they achieved whatever internal mystical motivational purpose intended.

Basketball gods... this team is making me a basketball atheist.

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2/24/2015  2:59 PM
and there was a time when Mike was a big Melo supporter and one of the main media people pushing for the Knicks to give up whatever it took to get Melo here. But like many he was awaken to the fact that Melo is a very flawed max "superstar"

I give Mike credit on this because he did not want Melo while the same people killing the Knicks now for giving an injured Melo $124mil are the same people that were pushing the Knicks to max him out at any cost. And how the Knicks can't afford to lose Melo. They would've killed Phil for letting Melo walk so its always a lose-lose with them. By the way Stephen A & Kay are at the forefront of this inconsistency

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2/24/2015  2:59 PM
holfresh wrote:Not sure anyone posted this but this is Francesa comments about Phil...

Fair enough. I like Phil's tweets (just like I like Durants new 'telling it like it is' stance with the media)- I'd rather hear stuff from them than PR fluff or no comments. However I also get why people would say, 'well this is the team and coach you made'. Don't even know if his comments were aimed at the team or JR

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2/24/2015  3:04 PM
Thats the alarming part. The fact that Phil and the Knicks in general still want to win games with this dleague roster. It is very delusional thinking and might help explain why we get no value back in trades. The people in charge interpretation of talent and value seems none existent. Thats why I think it is imperative for Mills to be replaced with someone who can be Phil's right hand man so Phil doesn't have to do this alone or relying on "been there latelys" like Mills
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2/24/2015  3:04 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Its possible. Mike has proven that he will go to bed with people as long as they provide him with interviews and inside information to help boost his ratings. And this has happened a lot more since ESPN became his main competitors. Mike doesn't care about his integrity as long as he is still "numba one"

With that said, the content of his show still wipes the floor with Kay's amateurish show

You don't honestly think he has anything insightful to say about basketball, do you?

Mike is a horses and baseball guy mostly. The other areas just aren't his strong points. I don't much care for his input on basketball. Basketball might be the hardest sport to build a winner. Mike does give of an arrogant aura, that know it all mentality which actually rubs off on people.

I don't much like Mike criticizing Phil Jackson much, he is the guy who went to sleep on air does he forget that.

I can't figure out this about fans and media....

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