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12/27/2014  9:00 PM
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Splat wrote:You're backpedaling in your time machine again. You were making it out like Jose was the grease that would make the machine purr, the catalyst, the dynamic distributor who would make everyone around him better.

You pinned your last hopes for this season on Jose. Didn't work.

He is a garbage contract eating up valuable cap space. What a low quality player for the price we are paying him.


1st of all I didn't expect Jose to miss the start of the year and then to actually have to play himself back into form. That was detrimental to team chemistry. Then you have the struggles of our SG's with Shump and JR going down with injury. They haven't even really played together that much. They never played with Bargs so really my prediction has never really been tested yet. The team I expected to see hasn't really even played together. You don't have to have any faith in it but you can't say it's a failure when the lineups I was expecting to see haven't even played together. I know you and others won't accept that but that's how I feel about it.

It's all moot now and I really don't care what anyone thinks about the prediction. It simply doesn't matter anymore. The calculus has changed at this point. It's not about this season anymore. It's about the future.

Nix, you have to be kidding!

take some freakin blame ... "I did not expect this, I did not expect that, blah blah blah, so I AM NO WRONG ... YAY"

C'mon! be a man


NOPE! I was wrong in my prediction, but I also didn't go in expecting Jose and Bargs to never have even played a game together. It just wasn't how I saw things going. If you told me that Jose and Bargs weren't going to even start the 1st 13 games and 31 games into the season they wouldn't have even played together once, I would not have made the same prediction for the season. I certainly wouldn't say it's proof with all the other injuries on the roster either. It's been a complete disaster and I still don't know how things would've gone if they had a healthy start to the year as expected. We don't know if perhaps the team might have gotten off to a better start and developed some confidence and chemistry. I know that won't sit well with some, but that's how I feel.

What does it even matter when this season wasn't about anything but setting a tone for the future anyway. It's not like we were looking for this team to be the core of the future contender. Being wrong about this season isn't the end of the world.


So let me get this straight....

Bargs has missed time...major time in the last 4 years, and missed alot of time with us....even missed his own international comp. With that said you EXPECTED him to miraculously be healthy.

GTFO bro.

And Calderon is old, but you didnt expect him to miss any time either?

We all knew this team was terrible....you kept stating how great they could be. You're wrong every single year. man. When do you quit?


The start of the season is a big deal for any team and this team needed a strong start. No I didn't expect Bargs and Jose to be hurt going into the season and No one was expecting them to be hurt to start the season. Was it possible? Sure anyone can get injured, but it wasn't what I was using to make the prediction for the team. Saying Jose is old isn't a reason to predict he wasn't going to start the season. I didn't expect JR to tear his Plantar or Shump to dislocate his shoulder. I'm sure when OKC was trying to predict their season they weren't counting on KD to break his foot nor all the other injuries either.

Shump and JR have had injuries pretty much every single year they've been here....injuries SHOULD be expected...when does not matter.

Bargs has been injured alot of the last 4 years....you have to factor that in.

KD is an awful example as he is young and has been healthy hardly ever missed time.

We had these convo's man, why you choose to ignore all teams DO factor in injuries is beyond reason.

You expected the Knicks to be perfectly healthy...thats delusional thinking.

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12/27/2014  9:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2014  9:32 PM
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Splat wrote:You're backpedaling in your time machine again. You were making it out like Jose was the grease that would make the machine purr, the catalyst, the dynamic distributor who would make everyone around him better.

You pinned your last hopes for this season on Jose. Didn't work.

He is a garbage contract eating up valuable cap space. What a low quality player for the price we are paying him.


1st of all I didn't expect Jose to miss the start of the year and then to actually have to play himself back into form. That was detrimental to team chemistry. Then you have the struggles of our SG's with Shump and JR going down with injury. They haven't even really played together that much. They never played with Bargs so really my prediction has never really been tested yet. The team I expected to see hasn't really even played together. You don't have to have any faith in it but you can't say it's a failure when the lineups I was expecting to see haven't even played together. I know you and others won't accept that but that's how I feel about it.

It's all moot now and I really don't care what anyone thinks about the prediction. It simply doesn't matter anymore. The calculus has changed at this point. It's not about this season anymore. It's about the future.

Nix, you have to be kidding!

take some freakin blame ... "I did not expect this, I did not expect that, blah blah blah, so I AM NO WRONG ... YAY"

C'mon! be a man


NOPE! I was wrong in my prediction, but I also didn't go in expecting Jose and Bargs to never have even played a game together. It just wasn't how I saw things going. If you told me that Jose and Bargs weren't going to even start the 1st 13 games and 31 games into the season they wouldn't have even played together once, I would not have made the same prediction for the season. I certainly wouldn't say it's proof with all the other injuries on the roster either. It's been a complete disaster and I still don't know how things would've gone if they had a healthy start to the year as expected. We don't know if perhaps the team might have gotten off to a better start and developed some confidence and chemistry. I know that won't sit well with some, but that's how I feel.

What does it even matter when this season wasn't about anything but setting a tone for the future anyway. It's not like we were looking for this team to be the core of the future contender. Being wrong about this season isn't the end of the world.


So let me get this straight....

Bargs has missed time...major time in the last 4 years, and missed alot of time with us....even missed his own international comp. With that said you EXPECTED him to miraculously be healthy.

GTFO bro.

And Calderon is old, but you didnt expect him to miss any time either?

We all knew this team was terrible....you kept stating how great they could be. You're wrong every single year. man. When do you quit?


The start of the season is a big deal for any team and this team needed a strong start. No I didn't expect Bargs and Jose to be hurt going into the season and No one was expecting them to be hurt to start the season. Was it possible? Sure anyone can get injured, but it wasn't what I was using to make the prediction for the team. Saying Jose is old isn't a reason to predict he wasn't going to start the season. I didn't expect JR to tear his Plantar or Shump to dislocate his shoulder. I'm sure when OKC was trying to predict their season they weren't counting on KD to break his foot nor all the other injuries either.

Nix I will not let you get away

Putting our guards feet to the fire as a way for


You to escape out the backdoor here's was an exchange during Preseason


nixluva wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Shump 0-6fg

J.R. 1-11fg

THJR 3-10fg

The hard pill to swallow on those figures

They are capable of doing this again

When the games count


Really? That's the take you have on a poor shooting night? Not that these players will more than likely shoot better than this on average? Geez! And y'all wonder why I talk about Self Hating Knick Fans. SMDH


Why were you SYDH

Now I place your feet to the fire


When news broke on Bargnani's early season injury you said this

nixluva wrote:It's not the way they wanted things to go but it's not the end of the world either. That is why Phil has added more balance and depth. They can survive this.


nixluva wrote:It's so early. I don't want Bargs or anyone pushing to get back before they're ready. That's just stupid. We have enough depth to deal with an injury. Just get healthy. I was glad they didn't push Jose either. It's just stupid to be panicking this early in a long season.


nixluva wrote:Here is the thing tho. Right now we have 2 guys who had what are basically sore muscles that need rest and not surgery!!! Unless they're hiding something more serious which we can't know. Jose should be back soon and with Bargs it's wait and see. That's not a huge problem like say Durant or even worse Paul George. Miami is reliant on Wade with his health issues and Chicago reliant on DRose with his injury history. No one should be comparing what our issues are with those situations.

Fact is we're closer to 100% than it sounds from the way some are talking.

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12/27/2014  10:39 PM
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Splat wrote:You're backpedaling in your time machine again. You were making it out like Jose was the grease that would make the machine purr, the catalyst, the dynamic distributor who would make everyone around him better.

You pinned your last hopes for this season on Jose. Didn't work.

He is a garbage contract eating up valuable cap space. What a low quality player for the price we are paying him.


1st of all I didn't expect Jose to miss the start of the year and then to actually have to play himself back into form. That was detrimental to team chemistry. Then you have the struggles of our SG's with Shump and JR going down with injury. They haven't even really played together that much. They never played with Bargs so really my prediction has never really been tested yet. The team I expected to see hasn't really even played together. You don't have to have any faith in it but you can't say it's a failure when the lineups I was expecting to see haven't even played together. I know you and others won't accept that but that's how I feel about it.

It's all moot now and I really don't care what anyone thinks about the prediction. It simply doesn't matter anymore. The calculus has changed at this point. It's not about this season anymore. It's about the future.

Nix, you have to be kidding!

take some freakin blame ... "I did not expect this, I did not expect that, blah blah blah, so I AM NO WRONG ... YAY"

C'mon! be a man


NOPE! I was wrong in my prediction, but I also didn't go in expecting Jose and Bargs to never have even played a game together. It just wasn't how I saw things going. If you told me that Jose and Bargs weren't going to even start the 1st 13 games and 31 games into the season they wouldn't have even played together once, I would not have made the same prediction for the season. I certainly wouldn't say it's proof with all the other injuries on the roster either. It's been a complete disaster and I still don't know how things would've gone if they had a healthy start to the year as expected. We don't know if perhaps the team might have gotten off to a better start and developed some confidence and chemistry. I know that won't sit well with some, but that's how I feel.

What does it even matter when this season wasn't about anything but setting a tone for the future anyway. It's not like we were looking for this team to be the core of the future contender. Being wrong about this season isn't the end of the world.


So let me get this straight....

Bargs has missed time...major time in the last 4 years, and missed alot of time with us....even missed his own international comp. With that said you EXPECTED him to miraculously be healthy.

GTFO bro.

And Calderon is old, but you didnt expect him to miss any time either?

We all knew this team was terrible....you kept stating how great they could be. You're wrong every single year. man. When do you quit?


The start of the season is a big deal for any team and this team needed a strong start. No I didn't expect Bargs and Jose to be hurt going into the season and No one was expecting them to be hurt to start the season. Was it possible? Sure anyone can get injured, but it wasn't what I was using to make the prediction for the team. Saying Jose is old isn't a reason to predict he wasn't going to start the season. I didn't expect JR to tear his Plantar or Shump to dislocate his shoulder. I'm sure when OKC was trying to predict their season they weren't counting on KD to break his foot nor all the other injuries either.

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