SwishAndDish13 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:So the NYPost is pissed the the NYTimes jumped the shark before them...Now they float their own story a day later...Knick fans chew the chum like fish bait..How clever..

Nah I believe this has some legs. The team is 4-20 it sounds like Melo's teammates do not have his back at all. How can an organization run like that if your main guy is the most hated guy in a team game? I don't see this as a rumor Berman made up--someone talked to him from the Knicks.

Simple, a majority of these players won't be here next year and they know it. They know the poor start is blamed on the supporting cast by management. Hating on Melo is the only way to try to save face for the guys who won't be there next season. It's their only hope (even a small hope) at a change of direction. Phil is in purge mode-everyone minus Melo and maybe calderon is fighting an uphill battle.

This is an interesting take. Fair point too. A lot of guys haven't done there part to better their own games. Take THJ for example. I was high on him coming into the year, but he has done very little to improve on his flaws from last season, which was disappointing and is mostly on him. Same could be said for other players as well. At the end of the day though, people typically get paid for production in FA, so I don't see this helping very much.

It won't help at all, but it is a desperate attempt and is definitely happening. This happens in sports a lot. This team is in such a crazy time because they know Phil is counting down the days until he can get rid of everyone, and this has been the case since he took the job.

But's that is exactly what he is. Oh, he is also a good scorer.

Big fukking deal.

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:So the NYPost is pissed the the NYTimes jumped the shark before them...Now they float their own story a day later...Knick fans chew the chum like fish bait..How clever..

Nah I believe this has some legs. The team is 4-20 it sounds like Melo's teammates do not have his back at all. How can an organization run like that if your main guy is the most hated guy in a team game? I don't see this as a rumor Berman made up--someone talked to him from the Knicks.

Simple, a majority of these players won't be here next year and they know it. They know the poor start is blamed on the supporting cast by management. Hating on Melo is the only way to try to save face for the guys who won't be there next season. It's their only hope (even a small hope) at a change of direction. Phil is in purge mode-everyone minus Melo and maybe calderon is fighting an uphill battle.

I suck. The team sucks. Melo's fault. Where have we heard this before?

This will always be the case. It's a NY thing. When will LA fans turn on CP3 for not getting them passed the 2nd round, despite having Blake, Jordan, etc? When will New Orleans turn on Anthony Davis if he can't get them in the playoffs soon, despite having some pretty good players on the team? When will OKC turn on Durant and Westbrook for failing to bring a title? All teams are dealing with different issues. We are dealing with a trash roster that has maybe 2 other players who belong in an NBA rotation, but if we suck it will always be blamed on the star player. It is what it is.

Splat wrote:

Nalod wrote:Pretty strong denial from Melo and agent today.

Mr. President, did an intern give you a blowjob inside the Oval Office?

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

better to believe berman, he's always right..never been wrong a day in his life

H1AND1 wrote:The trade kicker only gets applied if Melo is making under the max. So, if he gets dealt this season, he would not stand to get the kicker. Next season, as he is a couple mil under the max the trade kicker would be applied, as would subsequent years when the cap goes up and he is no longer at the absolute max.

But this season? If he does get dealt he wont get the kicker.

(Talk of Anthony’s trade kicker is a little daffy, at least for this year. A trade kicker can’t add to a max contract, and Anthony has a max contract this season. When the salary cap bumps up over the next several years, and Anthony technically isn’t making max money, then the kicker would be established; but it’s only at a 15 percent rate, and has nothing to do with 2014-15.)

From here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report--carmelo-anthony-is-open-to-a-trade--other-reports--no-he-isn-t-152748843.html

really?

then this is being extremely misreported.

BRIGGS wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:The trade kicker only gets applied if Melo is making under the max. So, if he gets dealt this season, he would not stand to get the kicker. Next season, as he is a couple mil under the max the trade kicker would be applied, as would subsequent years when the cap goes up and he is no longer at the absolute max.

But this season? If he does get dealt he wont get the kicker.

(Talk of Anthony’s trade kicker is a little daffy, at least for this year. A trade kicker can’t add to a max contract, and Anthony has a max contract this season. When the salary cap bumps up over the next several years, and Anthony technically isn’t making max money, then the kicker would be established; but it’s only at a 15 percent rate, and has nothing to do with 2014-15.)

From here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report--carmelo-anthony-is-open-to-a-trade--other-reports--no-he-isn-t-152748843.html

Berman is a premium Knick reporter. He's not the guys who come in and out--he's been there for as long as I can remember. I know the Knicks cannot stand Isola--so using him is likely out--but how can anyone believe that someone from the Knicks organization did not plant this with Berman? The guy has to see Melo almost every day. Hes going to kill Melo for nothing? I doubt it makes 0 sense--this came from the Knicks--they wont do it through Newsday atleast not now. Melo is going to talk to Berman of how this story came out UNLESS he already knows. Melo was quick with denial from him his agent etc.. super quick.

Isola was the guy Melo went to in the offseason- if he was going to leak out about being traded he would have used him. So either the knicks used Berman, or like many times in the past Berman just got it wrong.